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LiveYourDream

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Posted: 10 years ago

#241

I am watching Mahabharat rerun in the background as i am typing this...they are showing the Drupad-Kuru princes' war ...feeling very nostalgic!!
Even though there were so many changes from the "original" , it was such a well made serial

waiting for Draupadi birth to come up...talk about spectacular!! I think the ratings went up tremendously after her birth!!

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amritat

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Posted: 10 years ago

#242

Originally posted by: LiveYourDream

Welcome to the club ! LOL
When I saw the first episode where she had the audacity to accuse her Draupadi i was spitting fire!!
I mean this "lady" was the root cause of all Draupadi's problems and she dares accuse her!!

Kunti is one character that really confuses me...just like her eldest son.
She was shrewd, politically aware...

On one hand, I understand y she abandoned her child...People may bash her as much as they want...n please dont throw chappals at me for saying this 😆...I actually feel bad about her. She should not have thrown away her child like that into the river...that was inhuman...but the reason behind this abandonment...I do understand. Again she could not disclose the truth to her family...This is something for which she is bashed like anything. Indeed she was a coward,but I believe any other woman in her place would have taken this easier route for the sake of reputation.

But the 2 things for which I dislike her is...using her eldest son at an impeccable time for the benefit of her other sons...n using Draupadi to keep her sons united. For these 2 reasons...all the sympathy which one might have felt for her gets washed away. For her 5 sons, she would ruin anyone's life!!
This makes her a great mother for the 5 but a terrible, conniving woman for the other 2 people, especially Draupadi.

How old was Draupadi wen she got married? Around 14...
Its sickening to see how an old woman, put it all on the shoulders of a 14 yr old girl...

Granted that Draupadi was a strong woman, granted that she had 'smiled' while sleeping at the potter's hut and she never expressed sadness for being polyandrous as per the text...but my point is how could Kunti do it?
Was Draupadi as strong n gritty at that age, as she was during her Vastraharan? I dont think so...
Laying the burden of 5 men on the shoulders of a young girl for their benefit...that was really very selfish of her...

The polyandry did benefit Draupadi in some way...she became the Queen...she had an unchallenged position in the household...But it is bcozof this polyandry that she was insulted so much...

So that makes Kunti directly responsible for misery...

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Bhavaani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#243

Guys just a heads up - Anu and I thought we should have a Dharmakshetra discussion thread. If you're interested in digging through the nitty gritty of the show then pretty please join us:

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4234627

Edited by Bhavaani - 10 years ago

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Krishnaa Nair Kooriyil

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Posted: 10 years ago

#244

guys kunti is a really confusing char..

but one thing tht dharmakshrthr showed or the writer of tht script did is this tht kunti accuse drau for the prapanch of marrying her sons.. but isnt it she who did the division then how come tht becomes drau s prapanch

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Maverick_me

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Posted: 10 years ago

#245

Originally posted by: Meself

No not Ramdhari Singh 'Dinkar' one. Its by Amreeta Syam. The opening lines are "She has five husbands but then she has none. She has five sons but is not a mother" Well something close to it!!

Oh, Sorry I got confused; thanks for correcting

Dinkar's poem is called Kurukshetra but is a lamentation based on Shanti parva where he compares Kurukshetra to WW2

Amreeta Syam's poem translation ( by Kavita Chibber) goes something like this

"Draupadi has five husbands - but she has none -
She had five sons - and was never a mother ...😕
The Pandavas have given Draupadi ...
No joy, no sense of victory
No honor as wife
No respect as mother -
Only the status of a Queen ...
But they all have gone
And I'm left with a lifeless jewel
And an empty crown ...
My baffled motherhood
Wrings its hands and strives to weep".

Kavita Chibber is a famous freelance journalist

Both Sita and Draupadi* have been used to depict the woes of women , they're used so because they were famous and people would read it and who knows would even strive to get justice for the victims.

(Not meaning to say that they didn't face difficulties)

I don't think if Draupadi is said she was never a mother should be taken literally and don't worry she was a good mother .

In epic we have a couple of references wrt her as "mother of Sutasoma"

Arjun returns from Indraloka and lovingly bestows the jewels on 'mother of Sutasoma'

If we fast forward into Drona parva we get to know that Sutasoma had earned renown in assembly of Somakas and was a ruler of Udeyandu city

Coming to flashback Drau being called mother of Sutasoma might be this reference only - he had made his mother proud! She is called so another couple of times so Sutasoma was her favorite son among her own children 😊 So the favorite husband☺️ gave her jewels and her favorite son gave her good news⭐️

Drau had special love for other children as well ; Skanda puran has stories galore of her and her sons

Abhimanyu fighting in Chakravyuha says to Dushy that "drawing blood out of you today, I will repay the debt I owe to the sinless (mother) Panchali"

In Karaga puran the story of Ambasura (son of Parvati) and Aravan/Iravan guard the doors of Draupadi amman temple because of special reverence to Draupadi their mother

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Maverick_me

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Posted: 10 years ago

#246

Originally posted by: Krishnaa_Nair
guys kunti is a really confusing char..

but one thing tht dharmakshrthr showed or the writer of tht script did is this tht kunti accuse drau for the prapanch of marrying her sons.. but isnt it she who did the division then how come tht becomes drau s prapanch

Agreed

Kunti is ofcourse a complex and a shrewd character but I don't think she should be blamed.

Kunti abandoned Karna on the command of Surya, is clearly mentioned and from Karna's mouth himself . Lets say if she didn't abandon Karna and decided to take care (hypothetical- I don't want to take the credit from Radha) would Surya come and acknowledge this son of his in front of the society? Never, upon his command Karna is abandoned , he would never acknowledge it.

What should Kunti do in such a situation and acknowledging him later was also a problem because Dury never considers other Pandavas as sons of Pandu , what would be everybody's reaction in such a case of acknowledgement- Never ending woes for Kunti's sons

Secondly wrt Drau , if marrying all five pandavas is her wish how can Kunti be blamed for that either

This marriage was Drau's wish is echoed in Adi parva couple of times

Kunti makes it clear for her sons that they should fight the war to avenge the insult of her D-I-L and for this day Kshatranis give birth to sons.

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amritat

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Posted: 10 years ago

#247

Originally posted by: Krishnaa_Nair
guys kunti is a really confusing char..

but one thing tht dharmakshrthr showed or the writer of tht script did is this tht kunti accuse drau for the prapanch of marrying her sons.. but isnt it she who did the division then how come tht becomes drau s prapanch

Exactly!!

Maybe the makers needed points against Draupadi which they couldnt find in the epic... 😆
So they made Kunti n Gandhari accuse her for fake reasons... 😆

Huh...Draupadi n Prapanchi? And who's saying that? Kunti? The one who did prapanch against her own biological son?

Nevermind... 😆

Edited by amritat - 10 years ago

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Shivani Priyam Kumar

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Posted: 10 years ago

#248

Originally posted by: amritat

Exactly!!

Maybe the makers needed points against Draupadi which they couldnt find in the epic... 😆
So they made Kunti n Gandhari accuse her for fake reasons... 😆

Huh...Draupadi n Prapanchi? And who's saying that? Kunti? The one who did prapanch against her own biological son?

Nevermind... 😆

For me its quite difficult to analyze Kunti as a simpleton. I do agree that what she did with Karna was her only option. Not only back in those days but even today it is easiest to question a woman's chastity. So I can relate to Karna's abandonment. But what about her other actions?

Agreed she was this strong mother for her five sons but gain did she clutch to by dividing a young girl among her five? And if she truly was guilty about her treatment of Karna then why did she chose to speak about just before the war? Askng him to side with Pandavas?

I have often heard people claim that she divided Draupadi because she thought it might hamper the unity of her sons. If it were so, then why didn't she divide Hidimba or Subhadra? This is one charcter that loops my head in infinity. What exactly was she afterall?

Edited by Meself - 10 years ago

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amritat

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Posted: 10 years ago

#249

Hidimba was a Rakshashi or in other words Non-Aryan...
If I am not wrong then Non-Aryans or Rakshashis as they were called were not allowed to inhabit with the Aryans.

I once read in a blog..that wen Hidimba had expressed her desire to marry Bhima, he had been reluctant.
But Kunti had convinced him by saying that their offspring would serve them in the future...

I dont know Sanskrit...but I believe Sanskrit words can havr multiple intrrpretations. So, I suppose this is one interpretation of her words...This is how shrewd n farsighted Kunti was.

As for y it was only Draupadi...its bcoz all 5 brothers had fallen in love with her. On the 16th day wen Draupadi arrived at her Swamvar, all the suitors had gone crazy seeing her beauty...n the 5 Pandavas had fallen in love with her...n Draupadi was not yet officially married to Arjun...
That is y it is believrd that Kunti had intentionally said those words to make sure that everyone gets Draupadi...or else there would be awkwardness n eventually barrier between the brothers...This is one theory.

The same cannot be said about Hidimba or Subhadra...coz Hidimba was a Rakshashi n so I guess she was not important...And wen Subhadra camr to Indraprastha, she was already a consummated wife of Arjun...
So there was no question of dividing her...