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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: kankabhor

I don't think so, In fact I liked this version of MB and Krishna telling everyone their mistakes before their death. Its makes much more sense than just killing them. At least before their death, they shoul know what their mistakes were and why they deserve this punishment.

As for Bhishma, what Krishna told him was exactly correct according to me. You may think its manipulation but Bhishma always consider his own oath is much more than society righteousness.
He was in his bubble that he always followed Dharma which is bullshit. And before death, he should be aware of his mistakes.

For Drona, as per original MB killing him by telling his son has died is foolish. Drona was not some kid who can be fooled like this so easily. I always had problem with this from original MB. What Krishna told Drona was for every parent who are blinded by their child's love. This was again so much better than just killing him. Of course he did many good things, so before death he should be known what wrong he did to deserve this.

I would say, they have redeemed themselves by accepting their mistakes before their death.

As for Karna, he deserves his fate. He was selfish enough, and fought entire war only for himself and his own glory. Calling someone prostitute, helping friend to disrobe a woman is punishable.

Frankly, I liked SP version more than original. It was shown with so much depth.

You may see this as manipulation by Krishna, but I see this as last lesson by him to everyone before their death. This gave them opportunity to reedem themselves to some extent.
Krishna did not need to manipulate anyone to kill them, they would have got killed anyways without Krishna's gyan to them but I loved the way its shown. Much better than just killing them off.

Also I did not feel that Pandavas entered the war only for themselves. Again Krishna's gyan about revenge and justice to Draupadi made me think about it. Pandavas were certainly not sait but much better than Kauravas. Bhishma, Drona, Karna wereon other side so they deserved to die.


the war being done for societial benefit is a ⭐️bharat invention, the war was being fought because there was no other option left for Pandavas...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny

Here's what I think of your post.

Since you've made assumptions, I'm assuming I can do the same and so I am. And YES both the Kauravas and the Pandavas were wrong at certain instances BUT they were still different and their reasons for following adharm were different.

You don't know what would have happened if Drona or Bheeshma or Karna would have been on the Pandava side because they weren't. And let's just say if they really were fighting on the Pandava side, then their lives would be nothing like what they actually were. For example Drona wouldn't have been a soft daddy who fought because and for his son.

And as for Krishna giving out his gyan, don't you think it's better that way? Bheeshma, Drona and Karna were not just great warriors but were also capable of being great human beings. They just chose wrongly and were part of horrid things because of their choices. And YES it WILL sound silly and unrealistic to US because we don't belong to that era. Our era is a thousand times more forward.

As for the Dyut sabha EVERYONE was wrong. Including the Pandavas. BUT they did repent for it, for 13 years and they punished all those who deserved it. Yudhishtir shouldn't have put his wife at stake, I don't like him for that too, BUT he got punished for what he did and so did his brothers. So what did we want them to do in the dyut sabha anyway? Stop and Kill the Kauravas for causing such shame to Draupadi, right? That is exactly what they did, it took a little longer than needed. And don't call it revenge, it was punishment. If they wanted revenge they would never have even sent a peace-offering to the Kauravas in the first place. And if it was revenge they wanted Draupadi would have let Arjuna kill Ashwathama after he killed her sons and brother mercilessly.

And Mahabharat is NOT a revenge saga, it is soo much more than that! The Kauravas and Pandavas were all adharmis in Kurukshetra BUT the former fought wrongly and the later fought wisely. You can't say the Kauravas weren't given a prior warning before the war began. And how many sons from the Kaurava clan died like and before Abhimanyu did?


If yudishtir really repented , then why did he ask Droupadi to bear molestation from Keechak ?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyasn


If yudishtir really repented , then why did he ask Droupadi to bear molestation from Keechak ?


I'm sure he doesn't ask her to bear the molestation without giving her an assurance that Keechak would die!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny


I'm sure he doesn't ask her to bear the molestation without giving her an assurance that Keechak would die!


sorry dear , he just asks her to bear with it , no keechak vadh assurance from him ...
Keechak even kicks her infront of yudi , but he never reacts ..
Also after Keechak vadh from Bheem, droupadi was about to be given the punishment of getting burned alive in chitha ... and he did nothing to stop that .. By Krishna's grace , at the last moment their identities get revealed and it gets stopped ...



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyasn


the war being done for societial benefit is a ⭐️bharat invention, the war was being fought because there was no other option left for Pandavas...


That is not entirely true. When Krishna goes as the Pandava messenger to give out the peace offering, Duryodhan is on the verge of giving five villages to the five brothers but Krishna provokes him and THUS the war happens!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny


I'm sure he doesn't ask her to bear the molestation without giving her an assurance that Keechak would die!


But Bunny, that is a stupid argument. Like asking you to bear the torture because he wil get punished later!🥱
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Posted: 11 years ago
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sorry dear , he just asks her to bear with it , no keechak vadh assurance from him ...
Keechak even kicks her infront of yudi , but he never reacts ..
Also after Keechak vadh from Bheem, droupadi was about to be given the punishment of getting burned alive in chitha ... and he did nothing to stop that .. By Krishna's grace , at the last moment their identities get revealed and it gets stopped ...




Alright fine, let's just say he didn't, then why did he go on to attain moksha in the end? He should have ended up in hell right?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: sailuja

Very distortion . Krishna brilliantly cheated for pandvs victory... !!!😡


He did. But am still not getting that why cant Dharma be achieved through the right means?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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But Bunny, that is a stupid argument. Like asking you to bear the torture because he wil get punished later!🥱

It is isn't it! :D
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Apz..


He did. But am still not getting that why cant Dharma be achieved through the right means?


Because killing Bheeshma was impossible and same with Drona and in Karna's case it still remains debatable about who the better warrior was between him and Arjuna. So right means wouldn't have worked for them.

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