distorted.and dissatisfied things abt the epic , my view - Page 2

Originally posted by: kankabhor

Din't they suffer enough throughout their life? To live with self guilt is biggest punishment. They were feeling guilty so they lived with their guilt. That was their punishment. For Kauravas they were not even sorry thats why they died in war. If Kauravas had shown guilt, and said sorry to Draupadi , it would have been sorted out and there woulndt have been any war.

Both sides got their punishment in different way. For Pandavas living with guilty was more punishable than dying, for Kauravas who were not sorry were given punishment of death.

Believe me death is not biggest punishment alwyas..

Originally posted by: -Shruti

This is a grave misconception. Bhishma took no vow to serve the throne/king. 😊
Moreover, I've been repeating that he's a Mahajana, one among the twelve highest authorities of lord Vishnu. Can a misguided (as people claim him to be) man be an authority? Certainly not! Krishna wouldn't have glorified him by showering his special grace upon him, had Bhishma been like what many assume him to be. Our understanding is clouded by some pre-assumed points!
One more point, just before he quit his body, Krishna told him that he hasn't been guilty of a single sin. So, for Krishna's sake, don't tag him with others, please!

Originally posted by: ..Apz..

But they did not suffer alone. The person who was wronged too suffered with them. Perhaps suffered more. But no one in the epic felt guilty for insulting Karna with his caste. No one. Insulting a person's dignity is as bad as any other crime.

Originally posted by: ..Apz..

But they did not suffer alone. The person who was wronged too suffered with them. Perhaps suffered more. But no one in the epic felt guilty for insulting Karna with his caste. No one. Insulting a person's dignity is as bad as any other crime.

Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny

Many versions of Mahabharata say that Karna was actually allowed to participate in the swayamvar but he could not hit the target. Many friends in our forum will agree to this point. And Karna himself felt insulted when people called him a sut? When he himself couldn't respect his caste why should anyone else?

Originally posted by: kankabhor

It was not for Krishna's sake, Its what I believe. Bheeshma was on wrong side and was silent throughout wrongdoings of Kauravas and Dhritrashtra. So doesn't he deserve his death?

Originally posted by: ..Apz..

If those versions are true...fair and good. Then I can find so justification for Draupadi's insult. If he didnt respect his caste he would have never called himself proudly Radheya. He felt insulted because he was told he doesnt have the right to exhibit his skill or learn because of his caste. He was never reluctant to accept his caste or proudly declare him as the son of Radha and Athiratha.

Originally posted by: tina59

I am not happy with some of the things shown esp reg Krishna's manipulation and citing whatever drona, bheeshma and Karna have done as wrong.

for eg Lord Krishna says whatever drona did all his life was wrong when otherwise he was extremely supportive of the same when pandavas and drona were in the same side.

Excatly.. had Krishna pointed out about Ekalavya incident to Drona, things would have made more sensible..but his saying of Drona attacking Drupad is wrong, I don't agree as it was Drupad who insulted his best friend, forget not keeping his promise!!!

whenever Drona, Bheeshma and Karna were ready to fight square and fait in a battlefield, Krishna comes in between freezes everything and then somehow manipulates them into thinking that all they done in their entire life was wrong and only by dying they become mukth is just not acceptable to me.

trueee!!! its almost like hypnotizing them .. he will say something and at the end of it all will agree and readily wait for death...

in the case of karna, wheres the famous scene of Karna's greatness when Arjun's arrows turn into garlands where Krishna disguises into a saint and asks Karna to daan all his dharma's done so far, which he readily gives allowing Arjuna to finally kill him.

This was such a significant part showing Karna's goodness but they never showed that.

the whole of Epi i felt was.. the makers desperately wanted to give some "Gyaan" to Karna and had no idea of what to give and in vain cooked up the entire stupidity!!! 🥱

I also refuse to accept the entire fault of draupadi's humiliation was duryodhana's fault, it was equally the pandavas who could have just walked away when they were losing instead they not only went ahead and played but also put their wife for gamble.

Totally agree! After all, it was the Pandavas who paved way for Duryodhan to do this! And had any of the Pandavas tried stopping their bro and gone against him and attacked the Kauravas instead of taking Vows to kill them later..Pandavas would have made sense!!!

it also looks like the pandavas entered the war only to take revenge for draupadi and not for righteousness .

agree!!! Vastraharan was only one among the many reason which lead to the war!!

for me god aside, Krishna and Shakuni were two sides of a coin. Both manipulated everyone around them to get what they want and never cared for right or wrong in the process.

The kauravas were not good people yes I agree but I place Pandavas in the same category as well, they too did a lot which i dont find fair. thats why I feel that placing them on a higher pedestal than the Kauravas was unacceptable to me. For me, both were the same.

Pandavas were no saints like they are been portrayed!! they too had flaws.. forget everything... their one mistake in the vastra haran part was gravest of all mistakes.. graver than that of any kaurava!!!

Originally posted by: kankabhor

You answered yourself. Draupadi suffered for her mistakes too.. She was not saint either. Karma bit everyone.

And I totally agree with what Krishna said today, Karna could have used this situation for betterment of society but he was too selfish to do that.

Originally posted by: bunnylovessunny

Agreed, and Karna WAS given all of that and he misused his skill and valour by siding with the wrong.