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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
btw who is the TM!! 😆
pls edit the title!! its Abhimanyu!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Cotswolds

The mighty car-warriors of thy army beholding Abhimanyu whose face had the splendour of the full moon, and whose eyes were rendered beautiful in consequence of lashes black as the feathers of the raven, lying prostrate on the bare earth, were filled with great joy. And they repeatedly uttered leonine shouts. Indeed, O monarch, thy troops were in transports of joy, while tears fell fast from the eyes of the Pandava heroes. Beholding the heroic Abhimanyu lying on the field of battle, like the moon dropped from the firmament, diverse creatures, O king, in the welkin, said aloud, 'Alas, this one lieth on the field, slain, while fighting singly, by six mighty car-warriors of the Dhartarashtra army, headed by Drona and Karna. This act hath been, we hold, an unrighteous one.'


Reference - drona parva XLVII


This is as considered by Pandavas and absolutely acceptable from parent's view.. if it were me, I would also consider it the same.. we can clearly see they have omitted Dushy's son.. There are many similar dialogues I know but the narration of the battle is not supporting them.. Why it is unfair still remains my question? Not anything that is sad and pitiable make it unfair..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

What big deal if Karna did not kill Abhimanyu? Yes, pretty good Dushi's son was the last person to hit him after which he died. But all of the Maharathis were a part of this and so was Karna. And ABhimanyu was a just a young boy (be it 26 or 32 compared to his opponents he was very young.). Karna is indeed a part of Abhimanyu's brutal murder, so he cannot be sinless. I am not saying he was the one who killed him brutally, no. I know that it not right and neither what StarB is showing is right,. But does that make him sinless? All of them came together and tortured Abhimanyu to death. And not much is known about Dushi's son in which we can conclude it was fair fight and Abhimanyu lost in mace fight in front of Dushi's son.

After the bow cut by Karna, Abhimanyu will be easily killed by single Karna or single Drona. Karna just made him weaponless because he uses sword and shield to kill foot soldier. Protecting your soldier is one of the duty of warrior.

In the last abhimanyu had mace fight with Dhusi son. Does Karn destroy abhi mace? No. It was fair fight. The wrong was Dushi son strike second time to uncouncious Abhi. It was instantaneous. How Karn had fault in this?

Edited by Neutral2 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Krishnaa_Nair


dude!!! 😆
i meant to say all it took was a blow on head!! abhi have been damaged severely by others!! so that doesnt show dussy's son's might!!


He was weak and tired yes, but that should not take away the credit of Dushy's son IMO. Both of them managed to make their enemy faint..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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But Diala but those are the words of Sanjaya who was no way related to Abhimanyu and very well aquainted by war rules😕😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: ...Diala...


This is as considered by Pandavas and absolutely acceptable from parent's view.. if it were me, I would also consider it the same.. we can clearly see they have omitted Dushy's son.. There are many similar dialogues I know but the narration of the battle is not supporting them.. Why it is unfair still remains my question? Not anything that is sad and pitiable make it unfair..


The remark was from diverse creatures in the sky. It was not from pandavas.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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My point here is
is it given in any rule book that In a chakravyuh after attacked by masses when you have a duel with a person and defeated it is fair???
Did Sajaya or Vaisampayana or others acknowledge this anywhere in KMG
or is it a mass opnion after reading several other brutal wars??
Who said it was a fair fight??
Or are there any similar situations in past which consider this fair...
If any please provide citations..
It is basically a mass opinion which is being told again and again giving ...
This is exactly how things are misinterpreted and characters are glorified...
Edited by frappie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Diala i was replying collectively to the posts made supporting the fact that Dushy's son defeated Abhimanyu, and then Chakravyuh was not unfair.
Abhimanyu fought Dushy's son in the end after enough harm was done to him by all the other Maharathis including Karna. So according to my understanding Abhimanyu wa skilled by all of them and Dushi's son and not only Dushi's son. He fought all of them bravely, and the final hit was done by Dushi's son so firstly it does not prove Dushi's son's glory neither does it make Dushi's son the only killer of Abhimanyu.
And just because Karna was involved in Abhimanyu's murder does not make that fair darling,.. 😆 Ok accepted he did not stab him, but he was definitely one of his "murderers". And according to me, that is unfair. When you have one 16/32 year old boy fighting 7 Mahrathis inside a Chakravyuh it cannot be termed as fair.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: frappie

But Diala but those are the words of Sanjaya who was no way related to Abhimanyu and very well aquainted by war rules😕😕


No dear those were lamentations of Pandavas narrated by Sanjaya.. related or not I dont consider Sanjaya to be biased by anyway.. Vaisampayana might have been but that is another discussion..

Edit.. Those were words of creatures from sky.
Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cotswolds


The remark was from diverse creatures in the sky. It was not from pandavas.


Oops.. I should be blind.. 😆 Let me read it again..

Ok they are indeed creatures from sky but why did they skip Dushy's son.. Had they included him making it 7 warriors that is fine.. without their support there would not have been a case of the mace battle.. buy saying the six (excluding D's son) killing him is pure exaggeration..
Edited by ...Diala... - 11 years ago

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