Issues Raised in MB That Are Relevant Today

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ISSUES RAISED IN MAHABHARAT RELEVANT TODAY:

There is no doubt in my mind that Ved Vyas was not only a brilliant writer but also a great visionary. According to the Hindu philosophy of reincarnation and rebirth, our soul is recycled through the universe till we've learnt all the lessons required to attain salvation. In short, one cannot learn every lesson of life in one lifetime. Perhaps, a lot of questions remain unanswered even when we die and subsequent births are required to answer some of them.

The Mahabharat epic, written 5000 years ago, also raised a number of pertinent questions and Ved Vyas never attempted to answer every one of them.

Some of these questions still haunt us 5000 years later. We've found answers to some of these age-old questions but for some we're still unsure and constantly trying to find answers to.

Here are a few questions that were raised 5000 years ago and to mankind's credit or to the constant learning that's happened over various lifetimes, we've managed to solve some of these mysteries...but some are still elusive.

1. Should a person's competence be judged by birth/caste/status/race or his real aptitude? Even though, our society has realized that birth/race/caste etc don't determine real aptitude, then why do we still have a reservation system or as in the west--affirmative action? Eg in MB: Karna, Vidur, Yuyutsu

2. Should a woman be regarded as a property of her father/husband/son? Does she have a right to independent thinking or action? To a large extent, most societies now believe in equal rights and independence for women but in reality is that true? How does one explain female infanticide, dowry system, unequal pay for women, lack of choice for women, forced marriages? Eg in MB: Draupadi, Gandhari

3. Should a ruler of a country/nation be chosen based on competence or their birth? Even though most countries believe in democracy and a right to choose a leader, then why do we continue to revere royalty and dynasties of one political family? Eg Pandavs vs Kauravs

4. Shouldn't polyandry be as accepted as polygamy? To this date, a woman with multiple partners is considered a wh**re and a male with multiple partners is considered a player. Eg Draupadi vs all the other men with multiple partners (married and unmarried) in MB.

5. Should the term soul mates be restricted just to romantic love? Today, when we read stories about soul mates, we assume they are romantic lovers. Why can't a person have several soul mates and not be romantically involved with them? Aren't our best friends soul mates? Eg. Krishna-Arjun, Krishna-Draupadi.

6. Shouldn't a man-man and man-woman be allowed to have a relationship that's non physical and not sexual? Why do we eye every man hugging another man as a homosexual and every man-woman pair who care for each other as lovers?

7. Shouldn't women be given equal rights in every field? Wouldn't that make the playground more fair? Why does a woman have to become a man to prove her skill? Thankfully, in this day and age, women are employed in pretty much every field including the military Eg. Shikhandi in MB

8. Should a person's status/wealth/possessions be a gauge of their success? Were the Kauravs really successful? The ascetic Pandavs were more successful in every field- knowledge, character, respect and fame...

9. Should everyone have a guru to learn? We've seen various examples in this current era where self made people have been very successful without a guru. Does every child need to spend hours and hours with tutoring and college admission prep schools to succeed in life? Eg. Eklavya

10. Should we be stuck with the mantra old is gold' or constantly strive to accept change? Even though we all realize that change is constant, then why do we cling to our old traditions, old glory days and old beliefs? Don't we lament those glorious pre British era days and in that process forget to act today? Eg Bhishma vs Krishna.

Please feel free to add to the list...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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sangeeta gr8 post! I agree word to word. one thing related to woman employment issue is something I have faced. my field usually involves field work and that too in really isolated kind of area, mostly. but due to safety issue we can't work there.so we don't get job. it does disappoint me because we girls didn't get chance because we are girls. we are eligible fpr office work only! its the bitter truth I am trying to come in terms with. that's why I really wish to b a boy at such times
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Originally posted by: srishtisingh

sangeeta gr8 post! I agree word to word. one thing related to woman employment issue is something I have faced. my field usually involves field work and that too in really isolated kind of area, mostly. but due to safety issue we can't work there.so we don't get job. it does disappoint me because we girls didn't get chance because we are girls. we are eligible fpr office work only! its the bitter truth I am trying to come in terms with. that's why I really wish to b a boy at such times


Thanks Srishti...yes things are definitely better in terms of equality for women but there is still a gap which we women have to face day in and day out...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post.
Well i wrote a long reply to your post in morning but my bad luck..it all got lost....anyways trying again for second time...
Here my two cents on some issues you mention and I will be adding some more too..
- Casteism/Social Divide - We all say we have rose above the prejudice but the fact is that still there is much work to be done..more importantly there needs to be a change in thinking and mindset of people.. I still find people being extremely rude and disrespectful towards those who work at their home... leave them even in normal situations in our life..how tone changes when we find people of lower background -be it caste wise or be it rich-poor divide.. Prejudice surrounds even if we consider different religions around us.. A person is not judged from his birth...he should be judged and respected from his worth to society..
- Women Rights/Abuse- Thousand years ago a husband was forced to stake his wife.. In present scenario.. there are lot of cases where wives are considered property of their husbands and are being exploited..may be not husbands are not forced into it... like people of those times were..but the fact remains.. women rights are totally ignored and normally they are asked to do what their family or spouse tells them too... Yes there is a change in thinking happening..but still on grass root level..this thinking is too deep rooted from time immemorial perhaps.. As far as abuse is concerned- Be it rape or molestation.. a girl is still helpless in this society where some lustful men cross their limits..and people sometimes become just onlookers to hideous sights...
Some points that i want to add...
- How important Justice for wrong done to you is - You know take for example draupadi.. .. she actually took some action for injustice done to her... All I am saying is Either you take it all like a coward and live your life under shelf..silently punishing yourself only or you take the call... either punish those who made you suffer..(like what draupadi did)
- Follow your passion even if world tries to push you against it. Be that ziddi in your heart..if you want to achieve it...be determined..work hard ..and achieve your passion..
Edited by riti4u - 11 years ago
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Nice post and very realistic. All the issues you raised are still relevant today. Most of the evils that were there in epic exist in our society because we have more Bheeshma's than Krishna's.
I mean in MB we see how much Pandavas struggle emotionally to kill Bheeshma. Same is the case with most of younger generation. The ones who have real values are always forced to let go of their heart's choice for family, for relation etc..
The older generation forces this on younger generation in the name of love, family honour you name it everything and a youngster will find it quite difficult to go against his/her parents as they will feel guilty they are hurting their parents.
According to me every tradition and every ritual has a meaning. It doesnt matter whether it is old or new. If we understand the meaning and then do it it becomes value add, but if we do just because it is the tradition or out of fear then it is useless. Most people follow the second path. People dont even know why they are doing certain things, but they simply do it because they are supposed to do it.
Classic example is marriage. Everyone gets married because at a certain age society excepts them to get married. They dont understand the meaning of marriage. How many couples pay attention to the 7 vows taken together. Not many as it is a ritual. If we pay attention to the 7 vows of marriage and the partners adhere to it we will have less divorces and more harmonious relationship. According to vedic principles marriage both partners take equal responsibility. It is not woman to make sacrifice and man to have a gala life. But it is an institution in which 2 individuals come together to share happiness and sadness in future life.
If we get Krishna's or if we try to follow Krishna's path it is that of social transformation. It will be tough and lonely but the path is worth it as atleast we will have a clear conscience.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I can add a few more -

1. Proper parental upbringing of children is much more important than simply being parents by showering "blind love" (Dhrit & Gandhari)

2. If you really deserve success, God sees to it that you DO achieve success no matter what (Krishna ensuring the victory of the Pandavas in Kurukshetra)

3. Faith and devotion towards God helps you out even in the most dire circumstances (Draupadi during VH)

4. Importance of realistic and practical thinking (Bhima)

5. Unity is the most important factor in any family (Pandavas)

6. Conversely, jealousy & hatred can break apart any family (destruction of the Kuru dynasty)

7. War is THE final means to resolve any conflict (Krishna's peace efforts in HP)

8. Importance of the right friend, guide, and mentor in life (Krishna to Arjuna on the Kurukshetra battlefield)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Nice post and very realistic. All the issues you raised are still relevant today. Most of the evils that were there in epic exist in our society because we have more Bheeshma's than Krishna's.

I mean in MB we see how much Pandavas struggle emotionally to kill Bheeshma. Same is the case with most of younger generation. The ones who have real values are always forced to let go of their heart's choice for family, for relation etc..
The older generation forces this on younger generation in the name of love, family honour you name it everything and a youngster will find it quite difficult to go against his/her parents as they will feel guilty they are hurting their parents.
According to me every tradition and every ritual has a meaning. It doesnt matter whether it is old or new. If we understand the meaning and then do it it becomes value add, but if we do just because it is the tradition or out of fear then it is useless. Most people follow the second path. People dont even know why they are doing certain things, but they simply do it because they are supposed to do it.
Classic example is marriage. Everyone gets married because at a certain age society excepts them to get married. They dont understand the meaning of marriage. How many couples pay attention to the 7 vows taken together. Not many as it is a ritual. If we pay attention to the 7 vows of marriage and the partners adhere to it we will have less divorces and more harmonious relationship. According to vedic principles marriage both partners take equal responsibility. It is not woman to make sacrifice and man to have a gala life. But it is an institution in which 2 individuals come together to share happiness and sadness in future life.
If we get Krishna's or if we try to follow Krishna's path it is that of social transformation. It will be tough and lonely but the path is worth it as atleast we will have a clear conscience.



Thanks Shruthi. I always love reading your replies😊

There is no doubt that blind faith in anything just creates difficulties in life- whether it's blind faith in traditions or blind faith in others. The moment we stop thinking, we stop growing and then have no right to complain....
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shani-

I can add a few more -

1. Proper parental upbringing of children is much more important than simply being parents by showering "blind love" (Dhrit & Gandhari)

2. If you really deserve success, God sees to it that you DO achieve success no matter what (Krishna ensuring the victory of the Pandavas in Kurukshetra)

3. Faith and devotion towards God helps you out even in the most dire circumstances (Draupadi during VH)

4. Importance of realistic and practical thinking (Bhima)

5. Unity is the most important factor in any family (Pandavas)

6. Conversely, jealousy & hatred can break apart any family (destruction of the Kuru dynasty)

7. War is THE final means to resolve any conflict (Krishna's peace efforts in HP)

8. Importance of the right friend, guide, and mentor in life (Krishna to Arjuna on the Kurukshetra battlefield)


Thanks Shani...yes these lessons of life are still relevant today😊
Our leaders could learn a lot from this...specially using war as a last resort
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Updated my post a bit... sorry for responding late..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful post dear...

I agree with each and every point here.
Honestly, I hate the reservation system in our country.
If the government really wants to provide help, then that should be on the basis of financial situation. Reservations should be made on the basis of poverty, and not caste.
And I also agree with the point on polyandry.
Even today, if a man is found flirting with many girls, he is casually called a Casanova(which is not an abusive word).
But when a girl flirts with many guys, then she's called a bitch, s**t, and wat not.
Even today, this idea is implanted into our mindsets, than men can do anything, when it comes to the opposite sex, but women can't.
Another issue, which is still prevalent today, I would like to add here, is, women are blamed for rapes, but men are not.
Like Draupadi is blamed for being the "root cause of Kurukshetra". Why?
Bcoz she got disrobed, and wanted justice.
But no one blames the men, who caused her disrobing, to be the "root cause."

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