Karna did cut abhimanyu's bow 4m behind - Page 3

@runi17,

I myself believe that KMG should not be the only source, translations like Geeta Press are more or less as accurate as KMG, but why ridicule KMG when your point is not proven?, why not ridicule it when your point is proven, the 'comfort' of accepting it when your point is proven and ridiculing it when your point is not proven - should be not applied.

Thank you for the word by word translation and from what I have heard - Sanskrit is similar to Hindi and my Hindi is quite strong - 'Pashchat' is used in Marathi and it means 'after' not 'behind'.

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

I myself believe that KMG should not be the only source, translations like Geeta Press are more or less as accurate as KMG, but why ridicule KMG when your point is not proven?, why not ridicule it when your point is proven, the 'comfort' of accepting it when your point is proven and ridiculing it when your point is not proven - should be not applied.

Thank you for the word by word translation and from what I have heard - Sanskrit is similar to Hindi and my Hindi is quite strong - 'Pashchat' is used in Marathi and it means 'after' not 'behind'.

Not everyone is well versed in Sanskrit, very few people are, and what if those very few people do a mistake in translating, the other person who doesn't know Sanskrit will have no option but to agree with the person.

This argument is a good example of this - I am not versed in Sanskrit and the argument was on a specific word 'Pashchat', though I am good at Hindi and familiar with Marathi - I had an idea that the abive Sanskrit word cannot mean behind, since you posted that it means 'after' and 'Behind' I can now recall people using a word similiar to this in area, so this is the kind of problem which arises if we use Sanskrit Shlokas.

It is the beauty of the Sanskrit language that the same word has many different meaning depending on the context. In this case the two crucial words are vimukhikrtya and paschat

Originally posted by: akhl

I disagree. We take KMG as authoritative only because there is no alternative. Most of translations besides KMG are not expected to have exact word-to-word translation. For example, Sri Rajgopolachari did not intend to write word-to-word translation but to give essence of the story. That is the case with many other translations. But KMG has given word-to-word translation, and that too of the complete epic. Not only that, in most cases KMG's translation has been found to be highly reliable. That is also a good reason that we take this as authoritative. However, if by seeing the original Sanskrit verses, if somebody feels that the exact translation should be something else, then he or she has every right to say that.

Having said that, let me also add that I do not agree with the TM either. My understanding of Sanskrit says that Drona did not ask Karna to cut the bow from behind as I will explain in my next post.

Though we disagreed in this matter,i loved d way u expressed ur views..😊
actually r u sure vimukhkritya means' having made him turn away from the fight'?4m fight is not mentioned.i think d meaning is(again my POV,certainly respect urs) by 'paschat praharanam' u can make him turn away(vimukh).There are two sanskrit scholars(bengali) Nrisinghaprasad vaduri & Dhireshchandra Bhattacharya..both of them interpreted it as such as well.NV has written an analytical analysis on "abhimanyu" & DB has a direct translation of many parts of MB(including abhimanyu Vadh" chapter.
But as @riti said,we can interpret them in different manners.Someone is actually accusing me of posting 'translations'other than KMG.But i don't think the 'sanskrit shloka' is translation & they can not b posted or referred just bcoz he/she is feeling enraged.
also,in verse 31 ,i didn't say d word 'paschat' is anywhere. patkair means with arrows.I m just wondering why a warrior lyk karna(also a commander in the war for sometym,had to hav some intelligence) needed drona's advice for'cutting d bow'.This'cutting d bow' thing is not drona's patented plan.Many people had done it before,right?would lyk 2 hear ur thought about this(seriously).
@thewatcher don't wanna b in a war of words with u..but as u said this "Not everyone is well versed in Sanskrit, very few people are, and what if those very few people do a mistake in translating, the other person who doesn't know Sanskrit will have no option but to agree with the person.",I have to say dat i never claimed i m 'well versed" in sanskrit,neither did i put a gun on ur head saying "agree or die".U can certainly have a different opinion as many people in here have.But no need to redicule me.Is there.And btw u don't understand bengali probably..but those two authors i mentioned in this post apparently have degrees in sanskrit..u can check in google.so i think I am free to belive they r pretty well versed in Sanskrit.

KMG and CE quite resemble in this matter, KMG says Karna snapped his bow by means of his arrows and CE says the same, no mention of breaking it from behind.

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

I myself believe that KMG should not be the only source, translations like Geeta Press are more or less as accurate as KMG, but why ridicule KMG when your point is not proven?, why not ridicule it when your point is proven, the 'comfort' of accepting it when your point is proven and ridiculing it when your point is not proven - should be not applied.

Thank you for the word by word translation and from what I have heard - Sanskrit is similar to Hindi and my Hindi is quite strong - 'Pashchat' is used in Marathi and it means 'after' not 'behind'.

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

KMG and CE quite resemble in this matter, KMG says Karna snapped his bow by means of his arrows and CE says the same, no mention of breaking it from behind.