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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ur writing is superb amrita...these questns wl always remain unanswered,whether da pandavas or kauravas actually existed in reality or not,yet Mahabharat is really a grt piece of story which actually describes da current condn of society n still ppl lyk dury,dusshy exist in our society...ved vyas had done such grt job...v wl get evrything in mb...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Who was the greater warrior? Karna or Arjun.

Answer: bhishma, Drona and Karna were more gifted warriors,but each of them were bounded by weaknesses,Bhisma in the name of duty ,didn't objected against any wrong doing by duryodhana or if he did he wasn't firm,Drona was bounded by his putra moha ,duty towards Hastinapura,that's why he totally neglected evil deeds of duryodhana,Karna was bounded by jealousy towards arjuna,that's why even after knowing dharma he supported evil,whereas arjuna was a much more dedicated warrior,who also happens to have control over his senses,all he wanted was to learn and improve during his training,that's what makes him better than the other 3.

Very well said. I agree with u. And that kind of balances, the virtues of both the heroes. and hence, I said they were both great in their own ways.
Who was Arjun's most favourite wife?

Undoubtedly draupadi,the nature and aura of draupadi is what separates her from other wives perhaps all the wives of all Pandavas,the flare in her is what makes her different from others also she was his first wife.

Well it is a common belief that Subhadra was Arjun's favourite wife. And some believe that it was Draupadi. Who knows, what the truth is.
By the way, I am a huge Parth-Panchali fan. 😃
Did the Pandavas, Draupadi, Kauravas really exist, or are they simply creations of Ved Vyas?

Yup they did although one must say is that originally mahabharat was of 6000 verses the core that is called jaya a lot has been added later,but there isn't any denying that they existed,since there are also proof of existence of Lord krishna and kurukshetra war.

I too believe in the Lord, and would want to believe, that they existed. I hope Draupadi is hearing me from heaven, and I hope she knows, how much I'm in love with her character in the epic. 😃
But then again, there are some, who would wanna believe, that they were simply creations of Ved Vyas. Who knows?
Was Lord Krishna a strategist or God Incarnate?

Both infact,acc. To garg samhita out of the 24 incarnations of vishnu including 10 complete incarnations only Lord krishna is the purna purushottam Avatar.

Agreed again. Like u I am also a believer in the Lord.
However, there are many, who see Lord Krishna as a master strategist.
Was Duryodhan really that bad?

Well he was a bad person with some good qualities,his only downfall was his jealousy and hatred towards pandavas,he believed that throne was his,and to fulfil his desire,he can go to any extent,his only good qualities was his complete trust in karna.

Agreed again. Duryodhan was certainly not a very good person. But his friendship and trust in Karna, is worth appreciating. But today, there are many books available in the market, that actually treats Duryodhan as a great person. And there many fans of him, as well.
So, I guess, there are some traits that appeal to certain people.
Were the Panadavs, Draupadi and Karna really children of Gods?

Kaunteya's yes,some of them were born destroy evil and be medium of geeta gyan like arjuna since he was also partial incarnation of Lord vishnu,some were born to give support in establishing dharma,Karna was born because he was cursed to be born as human and draupadi was born because of yagya.

I am aware of the facts of the epic. However, I am talking of the reality.
Some say that Draupadi being "born from fire" is only a poetic interpretation.
Actually, her life changed, bcoz, of Drupad's "fire of revenge". The "born from fire" is probably only symbolic.
Did the war really take place?

Yup it actually did,lots of weapons have been found in kurukshetra that dates back to Mahabharata age,also satellite mapping of kurukshetra shows that some sort of nuclear power was used at that time.

Even I have heard of this. But who knows?
Was Abhimanyu really 16 years old?

May be.

Well, there's actually a doubt regarding this.
Thanks for commenting. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shani-

Brilliant post Amrita!! 👏

I've always regarded Vyasa to be the greatest story-teller of all time (even if MB is a poem).

The fact that his work sparks off so many vibrant discussions even 5000 years after it was first written, only speaks volumes of the complexity of the MB.

Oh...and IMHO Ganapati bappa needs to be acknowledged too...😊

Thanks dear. 🤗
Ved Vyas was a genius.
And yes, Lord Ganesh was the one, to whom, he dictated this great epic.
Thanks for commenting. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riti4u

Nice post Amrita 😊

Mahabharat is really captivating work ..whether fiction or not.. but it certainly has so many hidden things to be explored , debated and researched. There are learnings which are useful in present context of society.. Isnt it really strange that 5000 years ago the problems existing in society...common emotional bondages existing in humans still exist as much as then... Pick up any story from vast reserve of Mahabharat...You will find a reference in modern age ..
Yes there are some questions which are unanswered... Some ifs and buts... Some what if this would have happened or not... who is greater and who is not... I believe Mahabharat is more than these unanswered questions.. as it gives answers to many unasked questions as well...if we just figure out the right questions..😊

Thanks dear. 😊
Yes, I agree with u. Its strange, hoe the problems faced by the characters in the epic, 5000 years ago, are still prevalent today.
If we look around, then there are so many Karnas, fighting for honour, so many Draupadis getting raped, and so many Yudisthirs watching everything silently.
Mahabharat is a lot more than these unanswered questions. There is so much to learn from this.
Thanks dear, for commenting. 😊
Edited by amritat - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cherryberry293

Good post Amrita. Even I always some of the questions related to this epic.

Regarding the Pandavas, Kauravas and whole story as creation... there are evidences available which state it isn't a fiction. And even if I consider it as a fiction, then its the best fiction story ever written in the history of mankind.

Well to add in above list, I have 2 questions:

Was there any need to hide Karna's true identity from Pandavas? Would it have been really affected adversly to Arjuna's bravery??

I don't think so... if they fought against Bheeshma and Dron who were their idols and Pandavas worshiped them... then I am sure Karna's truth would have made any difference... As this war was above personal revenges... it was for Dharma... and all those who failed with Dharmas got punished.

Thanks. 😊
I , too, have of evidences, being there. Who knows, wat the truth is!!
As for your question, I personally believe that Karna's true identity was not hidden to retain Arjun's bravery. Karna himself had said, not to reveal this, if I'm not mistaken.
This is a very complicated part of the epic. Knowing Karna's truth would probably have prevented Arjun from killing him, or atleast weakened his resolve. And that is y, Karna was told the truth as well. So that his hatred for the Pandava can be reduced.
And with Karna alive, the Panadavs would probably not have won. Yet their victory was required, for the greater good.
Thanks for commenting. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MS-meghasharma

superb post

mb has been written like a thriller by ved vyas where he i suppose on purpose left some things like an open ending type,ppl can conclude from that what they want to. he has refrained himself from answering all such trick questions

Thanks. 😊
I, too, would wanna believe, that Ved Vyas never wanted us to find out the truth.
He has left it to us, to decide, and believe, what we wanna believe.
Thanks for commenting. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: simantini

Ur writing is superb amrita...these questns wl always remain unanswered,whether da pandavas or kauravas actually existed in reality or not,yet Mahabharat is really a grt piece of story which actually describes da current condn of society n still ppl lyk dury,dusshy exist in our society...ved vyas had done such grt job...v wl get evrything in mb...

Thanks dear.😊
Everything is debatable, when it comes to Mahabharat. It speaks of the society at every age, not just the current.
Thanks for commenting. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat

Mahabharat is one great epic, that was probably written 5000 years ago. Ever since, it's birth, it has undergone several modifications and transitions. Many things have been interpolated into it, many things have been altered. Today, after 5000 years, it stands as a long, modified, poem, hiding within its bosom, thousands of ancient secrets and puzzles, most of which will never be solved.

Mahabharat, is one long poem, built on many, many stories, intricately connected to one another, with thousands of symbolic representations, controversial events, anomalies, thus giving us an insight to our civilization, thousands of years ago. The most intriguing part of this epic, is that, every character, every event, and every situation can be seen from various perspectives. This enigmatic nature of this epic lends to it a mysterious appeal, thus making it even more beautiful.

Yet, this enigmatic nature has also given way to various arguments, debates, controversies, which have been going on, for some centuries or more now, without arriving at any conclusion.

Who was the greater warrior? Karna or Arjun.

Who was Arjun's most favourite wife?

Did the Pandavas, Draupadi, Kauravas really exist, or are they simply creations of Ved Vyas?

Was Lord Krishna a strategist or God Incarnate?

Was Duryodhan really that bad?

Were the Panadavs, Draupadi and Karna really children of Gods?

Did the war really take place?

Was Abhimanyu really 16 years old?

There are many, many more questions, which are yet to be answered.

Well, the first question is probably the most explosive topic, about Mahabharat, and many , many debates have been fought on this issue. Yet this remains unresolved.

Or, may be that's what Ved Vyas wanted too.

Ved Vyas, being the genius, that he was, had cleverly balanced the victories and defeats of these two heroes...So, that no one can ever find out for sure, who was the greater one, or so is my understanding.

We, may argue, with as much force, as we want, trying to prove that our favourite is the better one, yet we will never get clarity. This debate will go on for an eternity, yet we will never know the truth.

So, I guess, it is easier as well as politically correct, to accept that both were great in their own ways. Equally.

For the last couple of decades, or centuries for that matter, many scholars have evolved, trying to solve some of these puzzles. Yet, all of these questions remain unanswered...

We take birth, grow up, learn about Mahabharat, debate on our favourite characters, and gradually perish...

And yet, these questions remain unanswered...We go on arguing, and arguing, and yet, the truth remains hidden.

And gradually with the passage of time, some more false facts, start clinging to the existing facts of the epic, and gradually become part of people's common perception of the epic...

E.g. Andha Ka Putra Andha comment...

This cycle has been going on for thousands of years now, thus covering in the process, the actual truth, under layers and layers of distortions...

What is this story actually about?

Yes, it is the story of 2 sets of cousins fighting over land...

It is the story of a woman, who faced immense pain and insult, for being bold and beautiful...

It is the story of an abandoned child, fighting his way through the harshness of the society...

It is also a story of God, coming down on earth to teach humans, the greatest lessons of our life

Today, Mahabharat is at a certain stage, that it is difficult to identify, what is true, and what is not. And the distortions have blurred the story to such an extent, that all this boils down to one question:

Did Mahabhrat really happen?

We may see this whole story, in whichever way we want to...We may see the whole scenario through the eyes of whichever character we feel like...

But the secrets remain hidden, and they remain so, somewhere, between the lines...

Then what are the answers to those questions? And what is the truth?

The truth is, "We don't know the truth."

Amrita
Thought of writing on something, and came up, with this abstract piece. Sorry, if it was too abstract.
Hope, u all will like it, and please, no arguments on controversial topics.

yes dear Mahabharat really happened and lord krishna and other characters were true .the dwarka that the archeologist found is 12000 yrs old and they explained also that there was a was a war which happened here and i also have posted lot of about Aryavrat in my previous post in this forum its almost 1 week back and hope you all get your answer answered .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice Post Dear...

Some of them Believe tat Ashwathama s still alive...



Ashwatthama's Prarabdh lead him to an immortal life, roam in forests with pain
Edited by priyavishu18 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The fact that Mahabharat itself is so mysterious at times, has made it so popular. Mystery always has an enigma to it, and arouses curiosity. I honestly loved ur post. It doesnt even matter wheteher it happened or not. What matters is that our saints have tried to put forth a few messages, and shown us the path we need to follow in our lives, and probably it was done so in the form of a beautiful story to make it interesting. I mean who doesnt like stories. SO yes, for me, the messages given out by Mahabharat are important.😃

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