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Posted: 11 years ago

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I have thought very often that they sounded almost like the same person except in gender. I wonder up to what point was poetic license. Could VV have been using them as metaphors for God protecting the righteous cause? Who knows?


And the last lines. Dont they say a lot? They both do exactly the same thing! But poor Drau gets blamed😭


Again, the brilliance of Ved Vyas (Krishna himself)

Krishna: The writer

Krishna: The do-er (God)

Krishna: The sufferer (Draupadi)

All three were spiritually at a very high plane but reflect various facets of life, society and experiences
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Draupadi and Gandhari:

Every day, henceforth, for thirty six years, Bhima will remind me and my husband how he killed our hundred sons. When we sit down to eat, just as when we are about to put the food in our mouth, he will crack his knuckles so that we hear the sound that came when he broke their bones or ripped open their chest. Draupadi will try to stop him, but he will justify his actions, "They must never forget their children's villainy. They were quiet when you screamed for help in the gambling hall. Their silence led to the death of your sons and my Ghatotkacha. Why forgive them? Let me have the pleasure of reminding them how I killed each and everyone of their hundred sons. How they begged me to stop and how I drank their blood."

If I had eyes, says Gandhari, I would look at Draupadi and demand to know is this the end she wanted when she screamed curses at my sons? Yes, they disrobed you and you have washed your hair in their blood. It was right they were killed. Now, look at me, I am your victim - the victim of your justified outrage: a weeping mother, old, alone, a blindfolded woman with a blind husband, destitute, criminal parents who never looked at their children, a wretched couple who were blind to the faults of their children. We are paying the price of poor parenting. We deserve this, yes. Does it make you happy to see us so?

Krishna came and hugged her. She wept. And she felt Draupadi weeping next to her. Both were being hugged by Krishna, the mother of villains and the mother of heroes, both being comforted by he who they say is God. He said nothing. He allowed Gandhari to vent out her venom and he accepted the curse quietly - no retaliatory curse. Yes, his children would die as Gandhari had deemed fit and so would he. Let his clan suffer so that the spiral of vendetta does not continue. It has to end sometime. And if this demands the sacrifice of his clan, then let it be so.

Look Draupadi, your hair has been dyed with the blood of Gandhari's children. But in getting that blood, so much rage was generated that it cost you the lives of your five sons. Was it worth it? Could you have forgiven? Or was vengeance the only recourse? Is vengeance ever the answer? He who strikes another always believes he is right in doing so - they are heroes, they are martyrs. But ask the one struck down - they will call the hero a villain, they will call the martyr, a terrorist. Gandhari weeps for her children - her heroes, your villains. You weep for your children - your heroes, her villains. When will this stop? Will humans discover the power to share and forgive, strike the root cause of violence?


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Posted: 11 years ago
Another one highlighting difference between Draupadi and Gandhari:

Draupadi's position in The Mahabharata is unique in more than one sense. She is accorded the honoured position in the galaxy ofpanchakannihai, in spite of the fact that she was the symbol of polyandry. Such was her chastity. For the same reason, her curse would have the power of becoming true, not the angry words of a dishonoured woman. The Puranas say that she was the wife of a Rishi who awaited her consent to take to tapas. He thus waited a thousand years. He awarded her the boon of marrying in her next birth men who were emanations of Siva. By no means was she an ordinary human soul. She was born out of the fire when theyaga of a Rishi ended.

The episode in the court when the dice game was played changed the fate of the Pandavas. It brought infamy on the venerable head of Draupadi. She was dragged to the court by her hair by Duryodhana's brother. Duryodhana, in the height of his victory, ordered her humiliation. Her pathetic appeal is heart-rending. It was addressed to Pithamaha Bhishma. He was all sympathy, was crying on seeing her insupportable condition, but he could not bring himself to speak in her defence. Again and again she raised her voice and made her appeal poignant, directing it to the King, Drona, Kripa, and Vidura in turn. In despair she pleaded with Gandhari to protect her womanhood. All was in vain. Her saree was pulled and pulled until Lord Krishna relieved her of her agony and shame. The venomous Dushasana lay on the floor in a swoon.

Now her anger was unleashed. The raudra in her emerged. She was no ordinary soul. Her humiliation had no precedent. She cursed the entire dynasty of Kurus; she cursed the throne; she poured her venom on Duryodhana and Dushasana and Karna. Gandhari, who felt helpless when the woman in her was appealed to, now suddenly awoke to the magnitude of a holy woman's curse.The curse of a pure woman is a destroying ashtra from heaven. Gandhari came into her own. After Draupadi's curses had rolled out, she pleaded with the King and she pleaded with Draupadi to withdraw her curse. The King came to his senses, revoked the Pandavas' condition of slavery, and returned their kingdom,. It was not the crass injustice to a defenceless woman who was his own daughter-in-law that moved his stony heart, but it was the prospect of a pure woman's curse. Gandhari was at last moved by her own self-interest, not by any sense of righteous anger or wounded dignity. Man fails to move until his OWN SOLID interests are in danger. He is human and karma does havoc with him. He who moves by the right cause is Spiritual.


http://www.karmayogi.net/?q=node/566

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Posted: 11 years ago

Tears rolling down her puffed red eyes she asks, "Was the retribution so important, that lead to the brutal killing of my hundred sons?"

Refusing to leave the side of those severed bodies of her sons she says, "Though the world has abandoned them, branded them as epitomes of evil and even though they are dead I will do everything in my power to protect their bodies, the bodies which I gave birth to."

Crying she remembers those days of her pregnancy, how the pots of ghee contained her sons-to-be-born, how she waited for the slightest movement in any of them.

Her agony at the prolonged pregnancy, her pain at delivering those hard pieces of lifeless flesh, her joy at Vyasa's remedy for assured birth of her sons; and her excitement during those days of waiting, her happiness at Duryodhana's birth and her sorrow when she remembers her brutal fate which forbid her to look at her loving Duryodhana.

Crying she remembers those hundred small hands tugging her saree to catch her attention, silently requesting her to unfold her blindfold, and she cursing her fate every moment she touched them, heard them, but couldn't see them.

Crying she comes back to the present moment, caressing the body of her dead son, suddenly she felt a tent in the thigh of her beloved son, that reminded her of the brutal and unethical killing of her dearest son, and a sudden surge of anger filled her heart. The moment she was about to curse Bhima, chilled cruel laughter rang her ears, four men laughing and her beloved son ordering Dushasana that he wished to see his maid naked, "disrobe her" he yells. Tears rolled down her cheeks on her defeat, all anger gone but misery and sorrow at its place.

Another voice rang up, Draupadi's this time, "You have no right to shed tears", says that cruel face, a pitiless smile spread across it, "I have my revenge at last, they deserve it, you deserve it for giving birth to these immoral beings". The laughter " cold and merciless - cut deep before it disappeared.

Gandhari stood up abruptly, turning around for the source of that voice, yet found none. Was it her own conscious showing mirror to eyes held blind? But being a mother she rejects the reality. She accuses Draupadi of being heartless, "Does it satiate your desire for revenge, now that you have dyed your hair with my son's blood, now that you see your sons' dead bodies, now that the killing of thousands of young men is upon your head, are you satisfied now?" Can ever she be answered?

Her deep grief filled heart, denies any escape, solace. Then suddenly a voice from the past comes to her rescue, an innocent loveable voice laughing at her, daring her to catch him, she takes him in her embrace, kisses him and he laughs - that adorable familiar laugh. Leaving the grief of present, she looses herself in those happy memories of the childhood of her Duryodhana, her innocent and sinless Duryodhana.


http://thoughtalive.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/grief-of-gandhari/


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Posted: 11 years ago
@sangeetha di tfs dear!!

the contrast is awesome!!
mother of villains and mother of heroes!!!
bheem reminding gandhari of her son's death!! that soo not good!!! 😡

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Krishnaa_Nair

@sangeetha di tfs dear!!

the contrast is awesome!!
mother of villains and mother of heroes!!!
bheem reminding gandhari of her son's death!! that soo not good!!! 😡


I think it means having Bheem there will remind her of that

Not that Arya Bheem will keep saying it

Although I have read some where that he was planning to keep cracking his knuckles so the sound would remind them

Vrikodar certainly didnt believe in forgiveness, looks like
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Posted: 11 years ago
SHOKPARVA

We saw the play at Sudarshan yesterday. The play is about a hypothetical dialog between Gandhari and Draupadi after the war. The play was deeply moving.

Gandhari is apprehensive about meeting Draupadi after the war. So she asks one of her closest dasi-cum-friend to role-play Draupadi, as if to appear for a mock test before an exam. There are multiple facets to Draupadi's personality - she is a mother who's lost her sons, she's a woman, she's the maharani of Hastinapur, etc. Neither Gandhari nor her dasi have any clue regarding the role Draupadi would assume. As mothers, Draupadi and Gandhari both share the trauma of having lost all their sons. The only difference being, Gandhari knew in advance her fate. Draupadi's sons, however, were killed unethically after the war had officially ended

When the real Draupadi came in, she was a kind of a combination of all these roles.

She opened her heart out to Gandhari. Draupadi had constantly been used as a means to serve some purpose, from the time of her wedding. In order to maintain unity between the Pandavas, Kunti had asked her to marry all of them. Culturally, this wasn't tolerated. Polygyny was the norm, but polyandry was unheard of. She was used as an machine to produce heirs for the throne. There must have been a period when she was either pregnant, or available for intercourse for the next husband. None of the Pandavas' sons were now alive, even those from their individual wives. Now that Uttara's son - grandson of Arjun - too was born dead, Kunti asked her whether she still continued to menstruate. Her services were again being asked for. None of the Pandavas had grieved over the loss of Draupadis' sons as they had grieved when Abhimanyu or Ghatotkach had died.

Draupadi couldn't comprehend why Karna's son Vrishasen couldn't be the next heir to the throne. Since all the Pandavas - like Karna - had been born out of Kunti's niyog, he was as much a Pandava-child as her five children. Gandhari explained this would entail bringing the truth about Karna being Kunti's son out into the public. According to Gandhari, the difference between Pandavas and Karna was that, the former had been born with Pandu's consent.

Gandhari asked Draupadi how she'd gotten over the grief of her sons' death so soon. Draupadi told her how Krishna had brought some actors along with him, and they enacted the entire Mahabharat from start to end before them. Draupadi was surprised to find the actress playing her role crying profusely over the death of her children. She realized that life was nothing but a play where we are destined to play our roles.

The only solution, Gandhari claimed, was for Draupadi to wear a strip over her eyes. This was unacceptable to Draupadi. She saw the true Gandhari. According to her, Gandhari's wearing a strip was a pretense of her conjugal fidelity. Her true motive was to revenge her deceiving - Gandhari hadn't been informed about Drithrashtra's blindness until after she'd arrived in Hastinapur. She refused to be Drithrashtra's eyes. She didn't open her strip when the Kauravas were born, or as they grew up. These weren't happy events she longed to see. However, she did open her strip to witness the death of all of her children, after the war had ended.The end of Kuruvansh was her sole purpose in life.

While the world thought that Gandhari had put on the strip to deny herself the pleasures that her husband missed, the real reason was that she didn't want to be his lifelong support. Draupadi claimed that this, being remembered in history as a pativrata was Gandhari's greatest sorrow.

http://mcctheatre.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B5/

Edited by MS-meghasharma - 11 years ago
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Gandhari forgives Pandavas. Mahabharata 175

It is fascinating to see the depth of anger engendered in a khsatriya and how it is resolved. Dhritharashtra blind by birth, while physically strong, always dependent on others, would have deep scars in his psyche. He is complex, does not give up easily, but finally Dhritarashtra is a broken man.

Pandavas walk towards Gandhari. Dharmaraja speaks with great hesitation. Addresses her very softly, 'Amma! Here I am, the cruel man who killed all your children! I deserve to be punished. Curse me! What is the use of my living. I neither want the kingdom nor happiness. I do not know what to do after losing all my relatives and friends!' Gandhari is unable to speak, let us out a deep sigh of anguish. While eyes are bound, the toe-ends of Yudhisthira are visible to her and the nails change colour as her eyes focuses on them. Seeing this Arjuna gets behind Krishna. Soon, she lets go of her anger and speaks to them as a mother would. They take her permission to leave and meet Kunti.

The mother and children have not met for a long time. Kunti is unable to bear the sight of injuries caused by the weapons on the body of her children. She cries as she caresses each injury and she speaks to each one of them as she caresses them again and again. She then looks at a very distraught Draupadi, who unable to contain her emotions has slumped on the floor. Draupadi begins to weep, 'Amma! Abhimanyu and other grand children of yours are all gone! They are no more able to come and see you! What use is this kingdom, when I have lost such wonderful brave children?'

Kunti lifts Draupadi up and she takes her and the pandavas to meet Gandhari. Gandhari consoles Draupadi, 'Do not cry mother! Look at me and compose yourself. This is the time of destruction of the world! Hence what had to happen did happen! It is not in our control. Your children died in the war. So did mine. Do not grieve for them. You have become like me and I have become like you and who is there to console us?.

Later they all proceed to the warfield where soldiers had fought and died. They see only dead bodies, dead elephants and horses as far as the eyes could see. The earth is red and slushy soaked in blood! Vultures, crows and foxes are surrounding these dead bodies and are pecking away at them. Amongst them are the wailing women moving and falling as they try to locate their husbands or children.

She then addresses Krishna, 'You hear my daughter and my daughters-in-law crying without control Krishna. In the same manner many women are remembering their husbands, children as they keep looking for them. This scene is burning me!.' And as she keeps walking, they find Duryodhana and Gandhari falls down like a severed plantain tree wailing ''Oh! Duryodhana!'

http://nidhis-blog-srinidhi.blogspot.in/2012/08/gandhari-forgives-pandavas-mahabharata.html
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks for all the citations @Megha

It's interesting to read different perspectives- some show Draupadi as this heartless woman incapable of forgiveness and others portray Draupadi as the epitome of compassion

As per the epic, Draupadi took care of Gandhari after the war...she never let her hatred for the Kauravs undermine Gandhari's grief. She was as compassionate with her as she was with kunti or any other grieving woman.

That other story where Gandhari put blindfolds to avenge her wrongful marriage is a bit extreme...
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This citation is a pretty interesting piece to read. This has all of Panchaali's husbands, and their actions for her. Hope you all enjoy it. I have marked the best parts. One colour for each husband.



Vaisampayana said, "Meanwhile, the king of Sindhu was giving orders to those princes, saying, 'Halt, strike, march, quick', and like. And on seeing Bhima, Arjuna and the twin brothers with Yudhishthira, the soldiers sent up a loud shout on the field of battle. And the warriors of the Sivi, Sauvira and Sindhu tribes, at the sight of those powerful heroes looking like fierce tigers, lost heart. And Bhimasena, armed with a mace entirely of Saikya iron and embossed with gold, rushed towards the Saindhava monarch doomed to death. But Kotikakhya, speedily surrounding Vrikodara with an array of mighty charioteers, interposed between and separated the combatants. And Bhima, though assailed with numberless spears and clubs and iron arrows hurled at him by the strong arms of hostile heroes, did not waver for one moment. On the other hand, he killed, with his mace, an elephant with its driver and fourteen foot-soldiers fighting in the front of Jayadratha's car. And Arjuna also, desirous of capturing the Sauvira king, slew five hundred brave mountaineers fighting in the van of the Sindhu army. And in that encounter, the king himself slew in the twinkling of an eye, a hundred of the best warriors of the Sauviras. And Nakula too, sword in hand, jumping out of his chariot, scattered in a moment, like a tiller sowing seeds, the heads of the combatants fighting in the rear. And Sahadeva from his chariot began to fell with his iron shafts, many warriors fighting on elephants, like birds dropped from the boughs of a tree. Then the king of Trigartas, bow in hand

descending from his great chariot, killed the four steeds of the king with his mace. But Kunti's son, king Yudhishthira the just, seeing the foe approach so near, and fighting on foot, pierced his breast with a crescent-shaped arrow. And that hero, thus wounded in the breast began to vomit blood, and fell down upon the ground besides Pritha's son, like an uprooted tree. And king Yudhishthira the just, whose steeds had been slain taking this opportunity, descended with Indrasena from his chariot and mounted that of Sahadeva. And the two warriors, Kshemankara and Mahamuksha, singling out Nakula, began to pour on him from both sides a perfect shower of keen-edged arrows. The son of Madri, however, succeeded in slaying, with a couple of long shafts, both those warriors who had been pouring on him an arrowy shower--like clouds in the rainy season. Suratha, the king of Trigartas, well-versed in elephant-charges, approaching the front of Nakula's chariot, caused it to be dragged by the elephant he rode. But Nakula, little daunted at this, leaped out of his chariot, and securing a point of vantage, stood shield and sword in hand, immovable as a hill. Thereupon Suratha, wishing to slay Nakula at once, urged towards him his huge and infuriate elephant with trunk upraised. But when the beast came near, Nakula with his sword severed from his head both trunk and tusks. And that mail-clad elephant, uttering a frightful roar, fell headlong upon the ground, crushing its riders by the fall. And having achieved this daring feat, heroic son of Madri, getting up on Bhimasena's car, obtained a little rest. And Bhima too, seeing prince Kotikakhya rush to the encounter, cut off the head of his charioteer with a horse-shoe arrow. That prince did not even perceive that his driver was killed by his strong-armed adversary, and his horses, no longer restrained by a driver, ran about on the battle-field in all directions. And seeing that prince without a driver turn his back, that foremost of smiters, Bhima the son of Pandu, went up to him and slew him with a bearded dart. And Dhananjaya also cut off with his sharp crescent-shaped arrows, the heads, as well as the bows of all the twelve Sauvira heroes. And the great warrior killed in battle, with the arrow, the leaders of the Ikshwakus and the hosts of Sivis and Trigartas and Saindhavas. And a great many elephants with their colours, and chariots with standards, were seen to fall by the hand of Arjuna. And heads without trunks, and trunks without heads, lay covering the entire field of battle. And dogs, and herons and ravens, and crows, and falcons, and jackals, and vultures, feasted on the flesh and blood of warriors slain on that field. And when Jayadratha, the king of Sindhu, saw that his warriors were slain, he became terrified and anxious to run away leaving Krishna behind. And in that general confusion, the wretch, setting down Draupadi there, fled for his life, pursuing the same forest path by which he had come. And king Yudhishthira the just, seeing Draupadi with Dhaumya walking before, caused her to be taken up on a chariot by the heroic Sahadeva, the son of Madri. And when Jayadratha had fled away Bhima began to mow down with his iron-arrows such of his followers as were running away striking each trooper down after naming him. But Arjuna perceiving that Jayadratha had run away exhorted his brother to refrain from slaughtering theremnant of the Saindhava host. And Arjuna said, 'I do not find on the field of battle Jayadratha through whose fault alone we have experienced this bitter misfortune! Seek him out first and may success crown thy effort! What is the good of thy slaughtering these troopers? Why art thou bent upon this unprofitable business?' Vaisampayana continued, "Bhimasena, thus exhorted by Arjuna of great wisdom, turning to Yudhishthira, replied, saying, 'As a great many of the enemy's warriors have been slain and as they are flying in all directions, do thou, O king, now return home, taking with thee Draupadi and the twin brothers and high-souled Dhaumya, and console the princess after getting back to our asylum! That foolish king of Sindhu I shall not let alone as long as he lives, even if he find a shelter in the internal regions or is backed by Indra himself! And Yudhishthira replied, saying, 'O thou of mighty arms remembering (our sister) Dussala and the celebrated Gandhari, thou shouldst not slay the king of Sindhu even though he is so wicked!' Vaisampayana continued, "Hearing these words, Draupadi was greatly excited. And that highly intelligent lady in her excitement said to her two husbands, Bhima and Arjuna with indignation mixed with modesty, 'If you care to do what is agreeable to me, you must slay that mean and despicable wretch, that sinful, foolish, infamous and contemptible chief of the Saindhava clan! That foe who forcibly carries away a wife, and he that wrests a kingdom, should never be forgiven on the battle-field, even though he should supplicate for mercy!' Thus admonished, those two valiant warriors went in search of the Saindhava chief. And the king taking Krishna with him returned home, accompanied by his spiritual adviser. And on entering the hermitage, he found it was laid over with seats for the ascetics and crowded with their disciples and graced with the presence of Markandeya and other Brahmanas. And while those Brahmanas were gravely bewailing the lot of Draupadi, Yudhishthira endued with great wisdom joined their company, with his brothers. And beholding the king thus come back after having defeated the Saindhava and the Sauvira host and recovered Draupadi, they were all elated with joy! And the king took his seat in their midst. And the excellent princess Krishna entered the hermitage with the two brothers. "Meanwhile Bhima and Arjuna, learning the enemy was full two miles ahead of them urged their horses to greater speed in pursuit of him. And the mighty Arjuna performed a wonderful deed, killing the horse of Jayadratha although they were full two miles ahead of them. Armed with celestial weapons undaunted by difficulties he achieved this difficult feat with arrows inspired with Mantras. And then the two warriors, Bhima and Arjuna, rushed towards the terrified king of Sindhu whose horses had been slain and who was alone and perplexed in mind. And the latter was greatly grieved on seeing his steeds slain. And beholding Dhananjaya do such a daring deed, and intent on running away, he followed the same forest track by which he had come. And Falguna, seeing the Saindhava chief so active in his fright, overtook him and addressed him saying, 'Possessed of so little manliness, how couldst thou dare to take away a lady by force? Turn round, O prince; it is not meet that thou shouldst run away! How canst thou act so, leaving thy followers in the midst of thy foes?' Although addressed by the sons of Pritha thus, the monarch of Sindhu did not even once turn round. And then bidding him to what he chose the mighty Bhima overtook him in an instant, but the kind Arjuna entreated him not to kill that wretch."

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