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Posted: 11 years ago

#161

It was a wonderful epi.
Liked the way Krishna showed dharm & adharma on both the sides.
Krishna made it clear they are fighting for Nav-nirman. He is neither on side of dharma or adharma. He is the main instrumental factor in activating the event taht will give result of Karmas of people involved. He is sthitpragya, is performing his duty in the most detached yet undetached manner. WR is on 12th. Hope this entire week BG is shown well.

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#162

Originally posted by: smrth
Mixed bag. While disagreeing to the 'star' prologue- trust starboard to politicise their own distortions; inserting lies in event of even Gita, To protect their idol they repeat their blatant lie about Ashwi's Draupadi insult ( Ashwi has no part there). 😡

Completely agree with this...

Last five minutes were awesome.

But the one who called Draupadi a "you-know-what" conveniently escaped Krishna's censures today. And Ashwi's ⭐️contribution to her insult made it to today's epi...

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#163

Originally posted by: mnx12
It was a wonderful epi.
Liked the way Krishna showed dharm & adharma on both the sides.
Krishna made it clear they are fighting for Nav-nirman. He is neither on side of dharma or adharma. He is the main instrumental factor in activating the event taht will give result of Karmas of people involved. He is sthitpragya, is performing his duty in the most detached yet undetached manner. WR is on 12th. Hope this entire week BG is shown well.

If war is for nav-nirman, how can this nav-nirman be achieved by the victory of the (adharmi) Pandavas?

Or, is it that the Pandavas are "less adharmi" than the Kauravas...and that is why the person who pawned off Draupadi became the king of HP (after the war) so as to achieve this nav-nirman? 🤔

Edited by -Shani- - 11 years ago

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megha sharma

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Posted: 11 years ago

#164

srj was phenomenal 2day & so was shaheer.both of them were just fabulous. The last scene was beautiful.arjun sitting in front of krishna...best scene of 2day's epi. Lvd how krishna pointed out all the things to arjun & scolded him harshly. Poor arjun is copletely confused & to top it krishna is scolding him,no wonder shaheer nailed it there.

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halfbloodprince

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Posted: 11 years ago

#165

Originally posted by: -Shani-

If war is for nav-nirman, how can this nav-nirman be achieved by the victory of the (adharmi) Pandavas?

Or, is it that the Pandavas are "less adharmi" than the Kauravas...and that is why the person who pawned off Draupadi became the king of HP (after the war) so as to achieve this nav-nirman?🤔

This point is crawling in my mind too.

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halfbloodprince

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Posted: 11 years ago

#166

Originally posted by: smrth
Mixed bag. While disagreeing to the 'star' prologue- trust starboard to politicise their own distortions; inserting lies in event of even Gita, To protect their idol they repeat their blatant lie about Ashwi's Draupadi insult ( Ashwi has no part there).😡

Correct! Ashwathama has been reduced to a villain forcing the sins he never committed. He used to talk to his father like a drunkard does, during the adult clan's initial days. The character's neutrality is null here.

Edited by -Shruti - 11 years ago

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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

#167

I don't understand what Krishna means by "nav-nirman"...

"Nav nirman" means "new beginning" of exactly what?

Is Krishna talking of the end of one yuga (Dwapar Yuga) and the beginning of the next yuga (Kaliyuga)?

Kaliyuga began with the end of Krishnavatara (36 years after the Kurukshetra war)...

If "nav-nirman" means the new age will be better than the old one (in other words, a new beginning), then, in terms of morals and ethics, exactly how is the Kaliyuga better than the Dwapar Yuga?

Have the Duryodhans, the Shakunis, and the Dushasans been wiped out from our society yet?

Is a Kurukshetra War fought each time a woman gets insulted?

It sounds so idealistic and preachy...

Why doesn't Krishna simply say that the Kurukshetra War is one of the "purposes of his birth", and, therefore it is "necessary"?

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dramacrazy12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#168

Originally posted by: -Shruti
This point is crawling in my mind too.

To me it is not about Pandavas being "adharmi" but the fact that they did want to do right by everyone. Their fault was that they stuck to the traditional version of "Dharma" with such rigidity that they became blind to all the injustice and oppression that was carried out in name of "Dharma". They realized their mistake but it was too late and Yudhishtra was still stuck on textbook defination of "Dharma". In all their intentions were pure so that gave them an advantage but it also meant that "Dharma" needed to be redefined and all the corruption and traditions that had become a part of Dharma's definations had to be purged so that same thing could not be done again...hence the "Nav-Nirmaan".

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mnx12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#169

Originally posted by: -Shani-
If war is for nav-nirman, how can this nav-nirman be achieved by the victory of the (adharmi) Pandavas?

Or, is it that the Pandavas are "less adharmi" than the Kauravas...and that is why the person who pawned off Draupadi became the king of HP (after the war) so as to achieve this nav-nirman? 🤔

War is also a cleansing process too. Whoever & whatever is left after the war, have to restart their life, with the lessons learnt. So the system that is created after the war is a new beginning, hence Nav-Nirman.

Pandavas too lost many of their near & dear ones. All paid a heavy price for their deeds. They were in some or other manner part of this system, where a series of injustice, insults happened resulting in the war.

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Radha Chatterjee

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Posted: 11 years ago

#170

Well Well What do we have here? Ashwadhama insulted Draupadi?😆 Want to know my true opinion?😕 I did like how he mentioned that both sides had done mistakes that touch was nice. 😃

but overall I am disappointed. They are also missing a major part of this segment! He mentions Vikarna but not Radheya ( which I am glad he doesn't but it makes it look like favoritism)!! And where is Maharaj Dritarashta and Sanjaya? Sanjay was a major part of the Geeta episode he heard and saw everything, are they going to skip that? And the frozen like figurines of everyone look silly!

And I have read the Geeta myself and I hope he will say more shlokas the way its suppose to be not reinvent a starplus version.

⭐️Krishna needs to stop yelling it was hurting my ears! He looked aggressive and angry a point that I disagree about. He is suppose to convince Arjun not scare him!😕

I am still not getting a feeling of Bhagvan Shri Krishna with Arjun..not yet with this episode..hopefully it gets better.

Good Luck Educating The Younger Generation Star Plus!😆

Edited by RoseWine - 11 years ago