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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Shani-

Nothing wrong in deeming the Pandavas guilty...except that Krishna himself deems them guilty, but he is on their side...

Does it mean Krishna himself is on the side which committed adharma?


There guilt was that they blindly followed their brother. And their brothers guilt was that he stuck to what he perceived as Dharma

But they didn't poison a little boy or burn a house down with live people in it or used underhanded ways to win a dice game or insulted a woman publicly. Pandavas were human they couldn't have Dharma to the last hilt but there Sins was much less in comparison

And I guess we can even say what Pandavas did were mistakes not adharma
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

ok, frappie, i think in the epic, krishna cause arjuna's emotional breakdown by showing the kaurava maharathis and maharathis of pandava side. here the starbhaarat cv's used a direct aproch and introduced aditional drama by showing flashback of baarnavart and dyut sabha, and about arjun geting maliened, his emotional breakdown did not brought shame and here too, he is clean.

I am not saying anything which states Arjuna is wrong ...Definitely in the entire episode only his dialogues were minutely resembling Arjuna Vishaada hoga...I seriously didnot understand why starKrishna was confusing him??? Wasnt that demoralising him even more.Why cant they just keep it simple as in the epic on Arjuna's request placed Arjunas chariot amidst the two armies and Why is Sanjaya not describing all this ??? as it is Duryodhana was supposed to march ahead and give a breifing regarding armies which is not shown .There is no mention of Yuyutsu ,Satyaki ...Kritiverma and Susharma atleast ...If not all of them ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
shaheer n SRJ rocked as usual!!!
had goosebumps watching the epi!!!
also the spl; effects when paarth went on knees!!! hatts off guys!! 👏

but wat is arjun's lines in arjuna vishada yogam (chapter 1 of geetha) doing in madhav's mouth!! sorry if i sound blunt!!! but its soo uncomfortable!! 🤔

Madhav talks only after arjun throws his gandiv!!!
till then he only listens to paarth!! 🤔

madhav only talks in Sangya yogam!! n yes he is as harsh as shown!!! loved the strict maths teacher side of govind!! 👍🏼
Edited by Krishnaa_Nair - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Anything to be 'different'? 😕
I never figured out the exact reason behind making simple things highly complicated, hence producing a lot of contradictions as well as confusion. As stated before, nobody sans Vikarna deserves to survive at the end. Pandavas are adharmis...so what's the cause behind Krishna supporting them?

A lot of important warriors are missing!
Edited by -Shruti - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

There guilt was that they blindly followed their brother. And their brothers guilt was that he stuck to what he perceived as Dharma

But they didn't poison a little boy or burn a house down with live people in it or used underhanded ways to win a dice game or insulted a woman publicly. Pandavas were human they couldn't have Dharma to the last hilt but there Sins was much less in comparison

And I guess we can even say what Pandavas did were mistakes not adharma

Bold - So, why wait till this long for the war to take place?

All THAT adharma which had occurred against the Pandavas before, could've been accounted for back then itself...

I mean, lakshagrah happened when Yudi was still yuvraj. Why couldn't this dharma v/s adharma battle have taken place back then itself?

If Krishna's "presence" is all that is required in the Pandava camp for them to be victorious, then I'm sure Krishna could've definitely lent a hand to his cousins back then...
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Posted: 11 years ago
by not showing that, the cv's did a great job, i think at that time when duri was telling bhishma about the names and strength of kurupaksh, he was scared, realy hate the fact that before the words of krishna he was mentioned, because dhrit had to mentioned his sonsad "mamaka".
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

by not showing that, the cv's did a great job, i think at that time when duri was telling bhishma about the names and strength of kurupaksh, he was scared, realy hate the fact that before the words of krishna he was mentioned, because dhrit had to mentioned his sonsad "mamaka".

Well I think Dury was bent upon proving that they were way stronger than Paandavaas ...but I guess he did mention the strength of Paandava army aswell .In my Point of veiw it was important as it proves that he was overconfident and also " vinash kaale veepreet buddhi " concept...Hey Krishna please save us from star CVs...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Today's episode was decent...

I liked the way Lord Krishna brought out the negatives and positives of both sides.
However, it did confuse me a little. Maybe the CVs will show confusion first, before rjun finally decides to fight.
I loved the flashback scenes. Karna has been exempted from guilt, yet again for not being present in the battlefield.
Anyway, I liked how Lord Krishna points out to Arjun, that he too had made a mistake, by watching his wife's humiliation silently, just to obey his elder brother.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Nothing wrong in the mistakes of the Pandavas being pointed out...
But, if Krishna is pointing out the mistakes or adharma of the Pandavas, then he should also explain why he is supporting them DESPITE all the mistakes / adharma they committed.

And why should Yudi's mistakes be pointed out to Arjun? 😆

I mean, all the Pandavas should be individually lectured for their own mistakes, no?
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Posted: 11 years ago
As I mentioned before I could only relate to the last five minutes...and Starjuna minutely ...Arjuna vishadha hoga is distorted .I think in starbharath Starkrishna spoke more in Arjuna vishadha yoga ...I would have loved it if both the armies would be looking confused and Hrishkesha would place the swethwahan in no mans land and keep smiling listening to Arjunas turmoil.Then when Arjuna would wail that he cannot kill his grandsire , sons ,relatives ,teachers and for that case cannot seek the end of Dhratrastras aswell then Keshava would subtly explain him the aspects of Sankhya yoga and the "No death of aatma concept"..I would love to watch Jagadodharana imparting eternal knowledge subtly with his evercharming smile...As simple as that ...
Edited by frappie - 11 years ago

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