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Rumjhum Laha

@Patrarekha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#41

and except indra whose father interrupted in their son's life among pandavas? and indra too did after arjun impressed him by defeating during khandavdahan and krishna was in arjun's help so how can we blame sun god?

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Brahmaputra

@Brahmaputra

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Posted: 11 years ago

#42

People are of different minds and capabilities, and face different situations. So we can't say how one will think and behave in any given situation. They might be doing what appears right for them!

Many people cannot withstand a state of violent mental agitation and take decisions which are intelligently sound. It might be only because we often consider the urgent one over the important one, without considering any possible consequences. That is how mistakes happen, we all do the same, not only Kunti. My experience can't be yours and yours can't be mine. i might not feel the same way someone else would feel about a particular thing!

I don't blame Kunti for what she did...which was only a result of her confused mind and immaturity, moreover it was because of her weakness or fear (which are inherent, we can't change fully though we can change our response to them!

BUT from a neutral point, I think, if she had tried to balance her mind and think she would have got any solutions.

Firstly, when she gave birth to Karna, instead of forsaking him, she could've left her country with him. This sounds rude, i know. But it is better then forsaking her kid into a growing darkness! She could have saved her father's name too...

Next, she could have told Karna much earlier- like when she identified him- that he is her son. But she didn't do. That was her situation.

I don't blame Kunti. I love her a lot. I might console myself that she was not sound enough to handle her own emotions though she handled others better than anyone else could! She was unable to have a physical relation with her husband, she became widow at a young age with the duty of upbringing five children. If you have at least a kid, you could understand how much difficult is the upbringing of five- to keep them always united without any issues, without letting any ego grow- and the best part was that she never considered Nakul and Sahadev less than her children, she never did let them feel they are not her kids.

I can't blame her for anything..she was an unfortunate mother. It was her fate. We can't change fate.

Sorry if I did hurt anyone's sentiments. it was not intentional.

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Nikhita

@nuckts

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Posted: 11 years ago

#43

hey guys this is my post for the answer where she had many options in front of her please read and reply what you feel
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4038507
and yes ofcourse she was at fault afterall kisiko paani mei baha dena wo bhi chote bache ko bhi to adharm hai!

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Medha.S

@Medha.S

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Posted: 11 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: shlvrv_Niva
I don't think she is at fault. It definitely is very sad for Karna and he went through a lot, but he she kept him as a teenage mother, he probably would have faced different kind of humiliations. People would have called his mother characterless on his face, and kunti's own life would have been miserable.

Its Indian society we are talking about. This is Kalyuga, and we can't imagine the pain of teenage mother even a single or windowed mother here, and people are talking she should have done this or that in Dwapar yuga.

Emotionally speaking every kid deserves a mother, and Karna, Radheya had a mother. On that front he had his own Devaki and Yashoda. Things happended in MB for reasons, and so did Karana's case.

Finally - why don't people blame Sun god at all. He also share's the responsibility, he is also the parent and divine one at that????

Apparently the Fathers divinity is what give him a pass at it -- the other fathers never interfered in the lives of their sons no. But the Pandavas had mothers and father -- oh, karn to had mother and father. But since leaving him in the river is a big deal, a least the Father could have protested or given another idea to the teenage mother.

Dont see him doing either -- if the father doesnt have a problem with it then what can i say? and kunti asked all the gods to protect the child in air, water or earth and all that, so she cared.

But mothers have been abandoning children and getting abortions -- Kunti wasn't the firs or last. And she didn't want the child -- she did told suryadeva that but he had no choice but to rape her.

And then you can say that she brought that upon herself, her own fault -- she put herself in such a situation that she was forced to have a child. Doesnt sit well with me though.

And obviously she loved the pandavas more - I cant say she did not cared at all about Karna, she was very happy after Duri made Karna a King -- but she loved the children she brought up and nurtured more, that is natural. Just because Kunti was his mother doesnt mean Karna started loving her let alone love her more than Radha-- to him radha was his mother even if she didnt give birth to him. Revealing the truth so late was her way to protect her sons -- if he had agreed to join the pandavas -- all her six sons safe. If not then at least she got the "daan" that her 4 sons will be safe. So maybe it was all planned out strategy -- so what? Yeah, she probably had her own motives and Karna had his own. Mothers would go to any lengths to protect their children -- gandhari broke her vow and removed her blindfold to protect Duryodhana. Perhaps she was being political and wanted to save Duryodhana because him being killed will be Kauravas defeat, not because she did not love all her children equally.

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Diala D

@...Diala...

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Posted: 11 years ago

#45

Why Kunti approached Karna is pretty clear in the text. She speaks to herself. I dont think it needs any ifs buts and may bes..

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Diala D

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Posted: 11 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: Medha.S
And she didn't want the child -- she did told suryadeva that but he had no choice but to rape her.

😆😆 Medha did you mean it? Who can rape someone without another choice? It was Kunti who invited him to give her a child (which Durvasa clearly said).

She did think of herself, her father and everything that will get affected if the Mantra proved right before she called for Suryadev. Inspite of it she could not resist temptation and used it on him. It is not that she was an innocent adolescent.

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myviewprem

@myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#47

kunti definetly is at fault because of foll reasons

1) She abondoned a just born in river- what if crocodile or fish had eaten baby

2) She never acknowleged karan as her son although he nin front of her eyes

3) She never told her other 5 sons who karan is? to protect her image in their eyes

4) She never told who karan is to world-again to act holier than thou in front of world

5) She even did not tell her husband pandu - what about pati kartavya isn't your husband supposed to know all about your past? If not children and world?

6) Now at war time about to start she first send krishna to reveal truth to karan so that his moral reduces 80% during war. She very well know karan will get emotional abt younger brothers and not kill them not even arjuna for sure.

7) She then goes and ask him promise not to kill her other 5 kids. Why double standards? Why not ask 5 pandavas also not to kill karan as he is their elder bro

If kunti had told her 5 sons about karan and they had taken him as friend/brother than he would be on right side. This shows that kunti values her respect in society more than life of her son karan and also lives of 5 pandavas more than karan too. Which good mother shall do that?

Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago

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Shriya95

@Shriya95

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Posted: 11 years ago

#48

The fact that kunti had to abandon karna was a flaw in the society n structural system more than a personal flaw... Watever we may think but society does nt treat unwed mothers with compassion...there was no way kunti could hv kept karna with her as her child...the best solution would hv been to give him to a respectable foster parent n keep a close eye on his upbringing...which ultimately did happen in a way. Karna could nt hv got a better mother than Radha...

Regarding kunti revealing his identity n asking him daan...I believe it's more of desperation than selfishness...there is a very narrow line between them. She does try her best to get karna on her side, she does offer him love,respect n position of the eldest kaunteya. One can't say she dint try to convince him. But if he did nt get convinced,I don't see the mistake in requesting for her other sons life...a mother cn go any lengths for her children...n that's wat kunti did...

But of course this is a very controversial topic with many many versions n opinions on d same incident, this ws my opinion...

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Sabhayata

@Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

#49

definitely a mother can go and should go to any extend to save her children.Kunti went to karna only for the sake of her sons which if you see from the POV of o kunti as pandavas mother there is nothing wrong in it any mother would do it to save her children

but here we are not discussing kunti as panadavs mother she was a good mother to pandavas no doubt but here kunti is being discussed as karna's mother.Hence her going to her abandoned son emotionally blackmailing him to weaken his resolve from karna's POV is definitely wrong

Edited by Sabhayata - 11 years ago

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Diala D

@...Diala...

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Posted: 11 years ago

#50

Am tired.. I dont understand why I should try to understand Kunti's mind while approaching Karna when she herself admits her selfish intentions 😕 with no thoughts of bringing Karna to her side.. Krishna who was not a mother did that. Is it wrong to expect that from a mother?

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