Mahabharat Episode Discussion Thread # 10/ DT's Nt pg 121 - Page 83

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: DrModel

And most of all, did he not want the most beautiful woman? off course he did--but he knew Duri desired her A LOT and so if he would give Duri IP, he would also have given Duri Drau.
What would change with Drau? suddenly he would remember Duri was wrong and would fight for Drau?/then why not admit to krishna Duri is wrong and for dharma I will switch sides.

When did Karna say that Dharm is on,Dury's side!! Isn't it a StarBharat creation!!!
and What do you mean that?Karna would have handed over the wife of his brothers to his friend!!!!😲I never heard about something like this in the wildest of wild thoughts regarding MB!!!😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
LOVED SRJ
as always he was the best
His explanation was awesome...
Poor PITAMAh
finaly starbharath found the fact that they need to give some screen space to pitamaha and VIDUr👏👏👏
Is shikandini still a woman ???
if yes how can she take part in war???

Edited by frappie - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: LeadNitrate


we can go into hair splitting argument as to what you assumed as modern rendering. Modern rendering can be modern rendering of language. I see no harm in shortening the 18th century language used in KMG to a much modern English understood by everyone.

Actually, judging a work without reading it, infact dismissing it with short imaginary review can be construed defamation. I would not tread the path if I were you.


Whatever may my grouse against KMG be, I look into the book pretty well before deciding it is not my cup of tea.


When I am debating and arguing about a character who has suffered casteism, in equalitydue to perceived birth, in short outside cover, I would be the last person to casually dismiss a well researched piece of work simple by the outside cover. But what do I know!!

Leadnitrate, I have read RM and love its fluid, modern language. But one thing I noticed is that it does tend to novelise things. Hence,we are forced with Author's POV rather than using our own judgement.
I found the author to be Karna Pro in many instants and have painted picture favourably for him.
Just to give one instant.. Fight between Bheema and Karna during Jayadrath Vadh when Bheema beats Karna comprehensively. Duryodhana sacrifices more than 50 of his brothers to save Karna. Karna faces many retreats.
If you read, RM it makes it as inner turmoil, psychological issue of Karna, "enjoying" wins of his dear brother. Every time he loses, it is because he is proud of his bro and facing a dilemma, his eyes welling up with tears. And each time he scores a victory, its because he decided his valor is aroused and he "temporarily" forgets his love for bro.
I quoted this particular incident because it is made overdramatic and loses objectivity and really was surprised to see author going to considerable length to justify Karna's defeat.
(Karna is a great warrior and has his share of defeats like everyone else)
So Diala is right when she says that author does try to interpret things his ways. It is Modern Rendering in terms of language as well as psychological interpretation of characters (ie what a novel is all about it.)
KMG on the other hands forces you to think objectively and draw your own inferences. Hence, we talk of citations from KMG. It prepares necessary groundwork for debate.
I love RM for its lucidity, elegance and connect to it instantly but hesitate to use it for citations.
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Posted: 11 years ago
I think tomorrow Shakuni will raise this issue of woman's participation in war.. and will be shut down by Krishna speaking women rights..
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Posted: 11 years ago
So Dhristadyumna won't be the senapati?Do we have to see the fall of Bhishma on the fst day itself!!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: darklight

Guys now I feel like banging my head,!! They think that Abhimanyu is elder to all Uppandavas and all Uppandavas are born in order like their parents.After yudis son ,its Nakuls Son,Then Bheems,then Arjuns and then Sahadevs.Abhimanyu comes in between.😕

Muskaan it was never clearly mentioned if abhi was eldest or not...😕😕
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Archu-

So Dhristadyumna won't be the senapati?Do we have to see the fall of Bhishma on the fst day itself!!


Shikhandini is still woman😕

Anythings possible with star bharat

War might be over by fri 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
I din like the Background score of the sloka "Paritranaya sadhunam..." while Krishna was deciding the war field...It was like echoing from,a distance..They could have gone for a clear rendering of that...Also the scene with Maharathis of both sides and Krishna in the middle...There was no problem with the scene..But i felt like watching first few moments of a football match,with Krishna as refery!!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: frappie

Muskaan it was never clearly mentioned if abhi was eldest or not...😕😕


Thats the problem na😆.Why did Bheem say-"Aapka uttaradhikari",Why does he always stand and sit where the eldest has to sit or stand
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: angeala95

Now there is one more thing!! In POI and also today in starbharat we heard that those who died in kurukshetra, theyall went to heaven!! So duri and co all went to heaven!! So all these years what we have been hearing that do good deeds and all is a farce??



Well, IMO, every human being is born to fulfill some purpose. Duryodhan and Co, evil as they were, had their part to play in what was essentially a larger plan of God. Dury in particular was born with all the signs that he was supposed to bring destruction, and that was exactly what he did. So technically even though he was adharmi, Dury did fulfill his ultimate destiny.

Also it's not like they did evil deeds and they enjoyed rewards for it. Dury was literally killed by a below-the-belt move. Even though in the battlefield it was justified with adharmi-ka jawaab-adharm se, eventually he did end up being compensated by being given a place in heaven. Which just shows that if God punishes, He is benevolent also, it's not necessary He can only be one at a time.

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