Mahabharat Episode Discussion Thread # 10/ DT's Nt pg 121 - Page 5

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Posted: 11 years ago
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" Karna wrathfully and insolently interrupted his words, and looking at Duryodhana said, 'There is no creature in the world, O Brahmana, who is not informed of all these facts. What is the good of repeating them again and again? On behalf of Duryodhana, Sakuni formerly won in game of dice. Yudhishthira, the son of Pandu went to the woods according to a stipulation. He is now paying no regard to that stipulation, but confident of aid from the Matsyas and Panchalas, he wisheth to get back his ancestral throne. O learned man, Duryodhana would not yield even a single foot of land..."


"And wending away from the court, the Kuru prince began to consult. And this was the resolution which Duryodhana and Karna and Suvala's son Sakuni, with Dussasana as their fourth, arrived at, 'This Janardana, quick in action, seeketh, with the king Dhritarashtra and Santanu's son, to seize us first. We, however, shall forcibly seize this tiger among men, Hrishikesa.."


To put the chaff from this Bhil Bharat/Karna Bharat in to its proper place- Barnyard of worst distortions. And for those few who'd care to know how actually it was in real MB.🤢

(Regarding Flips of today's episode where Great Greek supported ' the 'proposal of five village, as well 'opposed' the arrest)

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Posted: 11 years ago
#42
Is it really necessary to give a silly analogy before every statement? The writers are really ingenuous..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

" Karna wrathfully and insolently interrupted his words, and looking at Duryodhana said, 'There is no creature in the world, O Brahmana, who is not informed of all these facts. What is the good of repeating them again and again? On behalf of Duryodhana, Sakuni formerly won in game of dice. Yudhishthira, the son of Pandu went to the woods according to a stipulation. He is now paying no regard to that stipulation, but confident of aid from the Matsyas and Panchalas, he wisheth to get back his ancestral throne. O learned man, Duryodhana would not yield even a single foot of land..."


"And wending away from the court, the Kuru prince began to consult. And this was the resolution which Duryodhana and Karna and Suvala's son Sakuni, with Dussasana as their fourth, arrived at, 'This Janardana, quick in action, seeketh, with the king Dhritarashtra and Santanu's son, to seize us first. We, however, shall forcibly seize this tiger among men, Hrishikesa.."


To put the chaff from this Bhil Bharat/Karna Bharat in to its proper place- Barnyard of worst distortions. And for those few who'd care to know how actually it was in real MB.🤢

(Regarding Flips of today's episode where Great Greek supported ' the 'proposal of five village, as well 'opposed' the arrest)

Karna was involved in this one too?
Seriously?
I understand he was indebted to Duryodhan, but y was he so aggressive with the Pandavas?
All bcoz of what Arjun and Bhima had said to him during that competition?
I understand that he was unhappy that Arjun was always given more acknowledgement as a warrior, and he never got that bcoz of his caste.
And then that rejection at Draupadi's Swamvar made things worse.
But bcoz of that, he started plotting to kill the Pandavas along with their old mother at Lakshagriha, then instigating Draupadi's vastraharan, vowing to kill the Pandavas in the woods due to Duryodhan's insecurity, supporting Duryodhan in not returning kingdom...
I know that the Pandavas were no saints, but still.
I really don't understand what was the reason behind this intense hatred of Karna for the Pandavas.
Many people say that Karna did all this bcoz of his "friendship" with Duryodhan.
It is true that Karna died fighting for Duryodhan, in the war, without asking for any wealth, throne, etc in return. He did not have greed for any throne or wealth, which is y I respect him.
But then as a true "friend", he should have corrected Duryodhan, instead of supporting his mistakes. Isn't that what true friends do?
People say that Karna was righteous. Then y did he not realize that disrobing a woman publicly, in return for rejection in marriage or for any other reason is wrong? If he is so much blinded by friendship and revenge, then how come he is "righteous"?
He was a noble man, but these actions of his really confuse me, as to what kind of a person Karna really was.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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1. Real Karna was not as pitiable as StarKarna... He may have the samaarth of a haathi, but is treated worse than a dog. 😭 Murkh Dury ignored his advice for peace then pushed away his hand preventing Krishna's arrest.
2. Am tired of Dushy's ek expression😆

3. Guess StarDury laughs like a donkey because he was born while they were braying

4. Why was Dhrit so scared? Did he understand who is Krishna?... Please NO CITATIONS... Q is rhetorical and specific to StarDhrit not real one.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

1. Real Karna was not as pitiable as StarKarna... He may have the samaarth of a haathi, but is treated worse than a dog. 😭 Murkh Dury ignored his advice for peace then pushed away his hand preventing Krishna's arrest.

2. Am tired of Dushy's ek expression😆

3. Guess StarDury laughs like a donkey because he was born while they were braying

4. Why was Dhrit so scared? Did he understand who is Krishna?... Please NO CITATIONS... Q is rhetorical and specific to StarDhrit not real one.

4:
well wouldn't you be scared if your future relative pulled an insane move that you never foresaw that trapped you in either giving your nephews freedom or facing the worst insult of the century - handing over your son's verbally wedded wife to the son of your younger brother. Except this time - the bride is Indraprasth. 😆 Bechara Dhriti must have gone boom-boom in his pants. 🤣

Either that or StarDhriti is spending a lot of time with StarShakuni 😉
Edited by shyam09 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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1) I am guessing the similar dialogue from Panchali VH and Krishna Vishwaroop is deliberate and not because SP ran out of money to pay the script writers😆. They have same/similar dialogue - 'Moorkh Duryodhan', 'Mujhe bandhi banaoge? / Aag se janmi----aag ko kabhi bandhi nahi bana sakte' 'Chalo Dusshasan kar lo apni shakthi ka pareekshan / Ye yojna bhi poora karlo, Gandhar Raj'
I was eating it up, any way👏

2) Even the BG music was the same - Yada, yada followed by Shri Krisha, Govinda followed by the Krishna Krishna bit

I loved that too👏

3) Karna is now included with the Kuru elders?! They are really WWing this character. One one hand, I feel bad for the breaks he never got. On the other hand, he really was an active participant in many of Duryodhan's schemes. Anyway, I am not certain whether I am annoyed that he was OK with VH but not OK with imprisoning the Shanti Dooth. He had a chance to repent in the last 13 years, may be? Or may be Vrushali and Mata Kunti worked on him😆

4) Sakhi was all flame and fury. Govind did icy fury. 👏

5) I was waiting for Duryodhan to say' Mogambo, kush hua' any minute. His laughing was kind of comic really. Dusshy, was, is, and always will be a perv and a moron🤢

6) I am waiting for tomorrow's epsiode😃
Edited by thearcher - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Archer - yeah the parallel was definitely intentional. Murkh Duryodhana forgot after thirteen years that one should not do whatever they are being so calmly challenged to do. 😆
I don't know Mugambo Khush hua ya nahi...but, Shyam is right about Dhrit soiling his dhoti😈

We can always count on Dury n Dushy for Stupidity! Sakhi should have kept faith in Dury...can't believe he still wants to marry Draupadi😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

@Archer - yeah the parallel was definitely intentional. Murkh Duryodhana forgot after thirteen years that one should not do whatever they are being so calmly challenged to do. 😆

I don't know Mugambo Khush hua ya nahi...but, Shyam is right about Dhrit soiling his dhoti😈

We can always count on Dury n Dushy for Stupidity! Sakhi should have kept faith in Dury...can't believe he still wants to marry Draupadi😆

@Red You know that old movie Mr India. Amrish Puri would laugh like a maniac and say Mogambo kush hua. I thought Duryodhan sounded like that

@Blue WWWHHHAAATTT. Elaborate, please!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Loved today's episode as well. This is what is called staying true to the spirit of the epic.,Their presentation of the Vishwaroop looks good too. I'm glad they showed Drona.
I don't know why they show reaction shots of Dushasan though. He doesn't have anything significant to emote considering his role in MB.
SRJ was particularly good in this episode. And Duryodhan laughing all the way while leading Krishna to prison. He'd beat those judges on comedy reality shows anytime.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh and I've stopped viewing StarKarna as the epic's Karna long back. He a whole new character created by Starbharat.

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