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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

In fact, I can't stomach the coverage of the Pandavas right now - Kunti in Hastinapur, and as per spoilers, her being upset @ Arjun for marrying Subhadra, when in fact, she was the one who welcomed Subhadra when the latter entered as a milkmaid.


If you ask me, the Pandavas seemed more "happy" in Hidimb's "mayavi van", than they seem now.

In Starbharat, ever since Draupadi's vibhaajan, they've been having a tough time, facing one "challenge" after the next, no thanks to the CVs themselves -
  1. OTT reactions to Drau's vibhaajan (the "vibhaajan" of a woman is a bad thing, but the Pandavas chastising Kunti for it??),
  2. The "dilemma" of polyandry,
  3. The "depressing" wedding,
  4. Insults in HP,
  5. Being arrested,
  6. Being told that IP will be a "dependency" of HP (thereby making the Rajsuya yagya a "compulsion" of sorts for the sake of achieving "independence"),
  7. Kunti being kept hostage in HP,
  8. Takshak killing their entire population (which later got revived),
  9. Arjuna's exile being presented as a "sacrifice" of sorts for the sake of the kingdom,
  10. Negative reactions to the Arjuna-Subhi elopement/haran
And, the dice game, vastraharan, and the Pandava exile are yet to come.

Looks like the CVs will make the Pandavas face these kinds of "challenges" till the very end.
Edited by shani88 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Babruvahana's Manipura was neutral in the war, while from Uloopi's kingdom, only her son Iravana participated. Her father Kauravya and his army was neutral, just like Manipura was


How many neutrals in the war? Balaram & Rukmi were, right? But, besides them, how many others?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: whitewitch

in previous mb
as i can remember
uloopi and chirangada was shown after war when babruvahana kiills arjuna
star barth let c



By previous MB, if you mean BRC, then it ended w/ the Shanti Parva, w/ them showing a totally distorted message of what Bheeshma taught Yudisthir. Actually, it was a long sermon lasting about 6 months.

Uloopi & Chitrangada were neither shown there, nor in Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna. I don't know of any other MB serial that might have included them.

In the story, the marriages of both to Arjun are described, and then they resurface when Arjun's Ashwamedha horse eventually lands up @ Manipura.



Originally posted by: shani88


How many neutrals in the war? Balaram & Rukmi were, right? But, besides them, how many others?


Aside from them & Babruvahana, most of Krishna's in-laws (as well as his family - Satyaki, Chekitan & Kritavarma were the only combatants). Of Krishna's in-laws, Avantika, led by Krishna/Pandava cousins Vinda & Anuvinda, fought on the Kaurava side. Otherwise, the maaykas of Rukmini, Jambavati, Satyabhama, Satya, Lakshmanaa & Kalindi were all neutral. Bhadra's family - the rulers of Kekaya - fought on the Pandava side. Mithila too was neutral, I think, as were the Kiratas.

Aside from that, most kingdoms in the south were neutral, although the Pandyan king fought on the Pandava side & was killed on day 16 by Ashwatthama
Edited by .Vrish. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shani88


How many neutrals in the war? Balaram & Rukmi were, right? But, besides them, how many others?


Majority of Krishna's immediate family (sons, grandsons etc) were neutral.

Among the Yadavas - Krishna, Satyaki, Kunti's foster brothers and Chekitan were on the Pandava side, while Kritavarma and Krishna's personal army were on the Kaurava side. The other Yadavas were neutral.

Manipur, Uloopi's kingdom, Takshak , Anushalva (not sure where he ruled), South India (except Pandya) were all neutral in the war. And also Shakuni, Trigartas, Jayadrata, Bhagadatta etc had all got relatives who lived after the war and in good numbers to give Arjuna a good fight during Ashwamedha yagna.

As an approximate around 40% of Aryavrat was neutral in the war.
Edited by india2050 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I dont think Kunti is unhappy for Arjun marrying Subhadra but robbing her off from Brata Duryodhan 😆 seems I am the only one actually happy that CVs saved Ulupi and Chitrangada from their signature distortions..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes i am little confused by marrying Chitrangada and uloopi Arjun does break his promise to draupadi but hw come they mention only subhadra? Subhadra ko 7 vachan de kar mujhe deye vachan kyon thode apne arya? what does this mean arjun ne chitrangada and uloopi ko koi vachan nehi diye.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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guess, in real the break of vow is bringing Subhadra to Draupadi's chamber when it was Arjun's year.. shud be..

while in starbharat I dont know what Draupadi means.. because Arjun did not give any vachan.. only Bhim said he will not bring his other wives.. if it applies to other Pandavas as well, probably she means what she should mean..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: surdr

Yes i am little confused by marrying Chitrangada and uloopi Arjun does break his promise to draupadi but hw come they mention only subhadra? Subhadra ko 7 vachan de kar mujhe deye vachan kyon thode apne arya? what does this mean arjun ne chitrangada and uloopi ko koi vachan nehi diye.



Actually Arjun stayed with Ulupi for a night , in her kingdom under water. But the next day he didnot have any recollection. He had a son Iravan with Ulupi.

As for Chitrangada the princess from Manipur----she didnot accompany Arjuna to IP . Her only request was to have a son with Arjuna so that Manipur would have a heir to the throne.

Subhadra is the only one who came back with Arjuna.

Ulupi and Chitrangada didnot claim anything.
Edited by himba - 12 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Diala...

guess, in real the break of vow is bringing Subhadra to Draupadi's chamber when it was Arjun's year.. shud be..

while in starbharat I dont know what Draupadi means.. because Arjun did not give any vachan.. only Bhim said he will not bring his other wives.. if it applies to other Pandavas as well, probably she means what she should mean..



Bhim made that promise on behalf of all his brothers. Like Yudhi and Arjun also made promises on behalf of all the brothers. SP is probably playing up the vachan breaking part for the drama.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Devashree.. I agree.. it has to be 'understood' that he promised on behalf of all.. but what he said is 'this question applies only to me, I will not bring my other wife' .. while Yudi and Arjun clearly said 'we 5 brothers'.. so am not sure what CVs meant by what Bhima said..

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