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Posted: 11 years ago
I have a different angle on the distortion thing - they irk me the same way FFs irritate me. I think characters are the author/storyteller's exclusive puppet that other subsequent writers should adhere to the spirit and essence of. Respect among writers/authors/storytellers. Nobody has the right to desecrate the work of another... even fill in the gaps or fill in the missing pages. Many thinK imitation, propagation, extrapolation, enhancement is flattery of the original work. To me it is not creative to hijack another's work especially without demarcation of differences by subsequent creatives who "borrow" or "build" on the product.

That said I respect that much of Indian Mythology is foremost an oral tradition and there is not as such "copyright" protection within even the written tradition. Still theorizing is fine...but, where things are passed authentic I have trouble...even if the justification is that they are simply filling a gap left by missing verses. Unless they are certain that is what has been lost i cannot accept it as the author(s) authentic work product.

Like paintings... should one retouch Michael Angelo's work in the Sistine Chapel? And if one does retouch for the sake of repair should they try and enhance it?...Surely if he had more time he would have drawn an angel here?🤔😆

Unlike paintings things get jumbled in retelling/manual copying - things get misordered or entirely omitted from one version to the next -- that I can accept. But, things clearly not even hinted at by the original like secret longings of Draupadi, etc. are stains on the original that annoy me... not on a religious level but on a human creative work product level. At least with FFs and books where they have the clear disclaimer people don't get misled, but would I want my non-existent kid to read POI and think it to be the authentic MB? NO! Would I be okay with them reading it with the understanding that this is more FF than original? Yes. In sum, so long as the perception of the "work" coincides with what it is I have less concern about distortion then when there is no disclaimer. Its still violating the essence of the original but, at least it is transparently doing so. My preference would of course be for them to understand read the more authentic version(s) of the original author(s) first.
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Anjana YYZ...

The book 'Jaya' opens with detailed account of how Vyasa's original story got retold by several different storytellers - from Jaya to Vijaya to Bharata to Mahabharata. I wish I could post the whole tree of narrators and interpretors of the story

I feel as long as the big picture and characters are the same, I am okay with a few distortions here and there. Even ChitraBanarjee's POI claims to be Draupadi's POV as she interpreted it but the basic story is still the same (except for the D-K angle) As long as I am aware that this is her interpretation, I am okay with it. As far as my children reading MB_ i think they would probably read versions like Amar Chitra Katha and venture out to variations like POI of Yajnaseni much later in life- when they are more mature and more interersted in the epic (like I am now)
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Sangeeta - even I read ... no i was a lazy child until age 10, so my parents read Amar Chitra Katha MB to me.😆 Its distorted as Yuddhi doesn't have any other wife. I digress - am reading Jaya right now... just finished the intro. POI and Ajaya are next in the batting order! Still I read with the understanding that these are character "distortions"/ "interpretations" particularly POI & Ajaya - not authentic at points to the author/storyteller's original. As such inferior purely from an artistic perspective - just as the Monet poster that hangs in my living room is nothing but a pleasing shell... and the Taj Mahal on the display case is symbolic of actual and none would think either to be the original.
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Posted: 11 years ago

'Jaya' was an interesting and engrossing read for me. I really like this authors perspective here, it was clear cut. First of all he is not biased over any character and he doesn't take sides between Kauravas or Pandavas. He has just tried to present the real story of Mahabharat may be not completely but as much as possible. The facts and folk tales in the end of each chapter also provide extra inputs and personally I loved that book.

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Posted: 11 years ago
yes jaya is neither biased towards pandavas nor kauravas.but I meant to say its way of writing is like a factual book
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

@Sabhayata - i don't buy the Draupadi-Karna secret either, but but but every Mills & Boons is based on "hate" masking other feelings. Coming to Y the version may exist here are some theories:

1. Don't people want what they can never have? (Karna) Or regret the path they did not take? (Draupadi)
2. If she could accept the five then why not six especially when the sixth was their brother also and very similar in skill, etc.?
3. Krishna/Kunti may have attempted to use her as a bribe for Karna;
4. Those particularly taken with the character of karna could not fathom anyone rejecting him.



Ok, you know when Krishna is returning to the Pandavas after his talks with Dhritrashtra and Duryodhana?
Where Karna and Krishna have a conversation?

Krishna offering him the kingdom, his brothers serving him and Draupadi as a wife?


Well, reading the whole thing as an excerpt is one thing.

But reading it as a conversation JUST after Krishna gave a speech in the HP court where he is angry at Duryodhna's thick- headedness and is being completely sarcastic like
''oh really? you sure you didnt do anything to the Pandavas? You sure you never were unfair and unjust to him? umhmm"


And, there while recounting all of the deeds of Kauravas, he specifically mentions the Dice Hall incident, draupadi being the dear queen of pandavas and Duryodhan being crude towards her ... also, Duhshasana and Karna using such language in the dice hall that gentlemen should not.


So, after this all Krishna, while leaving HP the same day, offers Karna, Draupadi as a wife?

Did Krishna think that Karna will actually accept his offer and join the Pandavas?

Did Krishna think that he will NEVER join the Pandavas even if he offers the younger brothers as the ones who will serve him and Draupadi who will be his wife? ... ... ... 😈



Now, the question is that even if Draupadi had some feelings for Karna BEFORE their exile, would she being who she is, had accepted Krishnas decision to make her Karnas wife AFTER what happened in the Dice Hall?


Had Karna accepted? Then, what? Krishna would have gone to Draupadi to tell her " Hey sakhi, you have a new Husband?"


Wouldn't he be scared that his Sakhee will probably strangle him with her long hair or maybe the Saree ka pallu?

"Oh, so you have gone and offered me as the wife to the Man who publicly announced I am a W**** and asked for me to be stripped naked.?"

And so the question is that what the hell was Krishna doing? 😈

To this i would like to add:-

One time, Krishna told Yudhishtira that Arjunas life is so full of misery because ... he has rather high cheekbones.

Nonethless to say that Yudhishtira took him seriously, " so be it, prabhu" ...🥱

Draupadi didnt, she knew he was being sarcastic and just looked at him mockingly.


I dont think Krishna would ever had made such a big offer to Karna had he known that Karna would accept it, because his offer, if accepted could have been the end of the war even before it started.
I dont think Krishna wanted that.

There is the general theory that he was testing Karna, I am more of the opinion that the best quality of sarcasm was at play.🥱

I would rather be Draupadi than Yudhishtira in this case, really.



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Posted: 11 years ago
Don't know what possessed me, but after a chapter of Jaya...just when sleep beckoned I dived into Palace of Illussion. Except for the non-sense about Draupadi's feeling for Karna it is cracking me up. Superfast read...and the description of the Pandavas at points is hilarious!

There is a scene where she faints - they think its because she is scared as Arjun goes of to pursue weapons... Yuddhi puts her head on his lap, Bheem splashes water, twins fan her, and Arjun caresses her face! ROFL. Its perfect FF material. ROFL.

PS. Am oscillating btwn laughter and annoyance about the secret love for Karna... uff she still isn't over it after he orders her disrobing! I think the author doesn't get the depth of that at all!
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Anjana now you are tempting me to read it.😆I am strong, I wont give in.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: devashree_h

Anjana now you are tempting me to read it.😆I am strong, I wont give in.😆

I need to work or this book would be toast in the next 4 hours...read it. I am totally amused. Drau in it ruthlesses uses Bhim during Vanvaas... they were each other's entertainment package. 😆 She did more nakres when he was around to indulge her. 😛 Her taunts to Yuddhi are excellent post dice. 😆
I don't buy the author's version, but it is entertaining.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: devashree_h

Anjana now you are tempting me to read it.😆I am strong, I wont give in.😆



Oh, come on, just read it.😈
And then do write a good review about Draupadis Stockholm syndrome.

@Anjana 🤣 Draupadi is cared for by the Pandavas, but they are not the ones for her, her true love she will only find after death.

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