a fact that you wish to change in Mahabharata - Page 5

my another wish all brother cutting all connection with kunti and bringing karna home

Originally posted by: rasyafan

There are so many turning points in Mahabharat that we all wish "kash aisa na hua hota, kash aisa huya hota, kash he did this instead of that" ...and so on and so forth

But if I could then I would stop the very second when Mahabharat was conceived at ganga's tat (shore ) by none other then both Ganga and Shantanu. When Shantanu stopped Ganga from drowing their 8th son Bheeshm.

Oh, I so wish that "kash Shantanu ne Ganga ko roka na hota aur Bheeshm ko baha diya hota to shayad, Bheeshm na hote, pratigya lene ke liye and whatever followed would never have occured"

but this was not to be.

Several, reasons were there for the conception of Mahabharat, not just one Curse to Vasu dev by Vasishth for stealing his cow. Draupadi was cursed by her husband, and before that 5 wives of devtas including parwati ji were cursed, Vishnuji was cursed, Dhritrashtra was cursed, Abhimany was cursed, or when dwarpals of vishnu ji Jay and Vijay were supposed to be killed by Vishnu ji first as Hrinyakashyap Prahlad's father in Satyug then as rawan in Treta yug in Ramayan then as shishupal in Dwapar yug in mahabharat and the other brother as Kans.

There are several other factors which were supposed to take place only during Mahabharat. Everything was linked to each other which lead to Mahabharat or rather which was due to happen during Mahabharat.

So it is really futile to think "kash aisa na hua hota kash aisa hua hota".

It is really difficult to pin point at one particular incident when was Mahabharat exactly concieved or conceptualized.

Perhaps, Mahabharat was deliberately pre planned by Adi Shakti the parameshwari the Maha Maya goddess. God alone knows I mean adi shakti can only answer this. 😆 😆 I doubt if even Ved Vyasji knows this 😉

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Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience

Without god's will even a leaf doesn't move.So what has happened...every incident from Mahabharat I don't wish for any alter cause it was for our good!

sruja ji, i always second to your thoughts 😃, thank you so much for sharing your pov 😃.

Originally posted by: shripadk

Adi Shakti has nothing to do with Mahabharat. Lord Vishnu had preplanned this and Ved Vyas (Rishi Apantaratamas) was his incarnation. Read this: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12c049.htm

In fact Adi Shakti is a concept found only in certain puranic scriptures. Not all puranas project this view. 😊

Each Puran tells about a particular diety and talks about him or her as a hero. Vishnu Puran-Vishnu is hero and Shiv Puran-Shiv is hero, Surya Puran-Suryadev is hero etc etc Bhagwad Puran-Shakti or Durga is hero.

Right from Shivji's marriage, Adi Shakti has her own personification. Right from the begigning, Adi Shakti has a great importance in Shivji's life. Without her, he is not shiv but Shav. A corpse. Atleast that is what I have read.

Such was the importance of Adi Shakti that all gods gathered and invoked Adi Shakti to form Durga ji to kill certain asurs.

when I said about Adi Shakti, I meant her as the supreme being as parameshwari as Maha Maya goddess who is the actual Supreme Being the energy the essence of Brahmaand. I read Bhagwad Puran, according to which Parameshwari, the female energy is the supreme being. She is shakti she is energy she is also called shakti of shiv. She is Female Aspect whereas Shiv is male aspect. All other gods are her different forms or manifestations.

Everything is pre-planned by Adi Shakti. Even the appearance of Vishnu Mahesh and Brahma is due to Adi Shakti, part of creation right from the conception of creation.

Ved has given liberty to each human to accept anyone as supreme being, according to their wishes. Whether he is Shivji who is actually called Devon ke Dev Mahadev, gods of all gods, or he is Shri Vishnuji who is paalan Haar, Shivites think Shivji as their Supreme God, Vaishnavites think Vishnu ji is as Greater god. Shakties think Supreme being is Adi Shakti or Parameshwari or maha maya or Parvati ji cosort of Shiv ji.

I read Shiv Puran where Parmeshwari Divides herself in two, one is Ishwara and the other is Ishwari. Ishwara is Rudra and Ishwari is Adi Shakti herself. Ardhnareshwar

None of the Gods can go against prakarity or neeyam or vidhi ka vidhan. What is Vidhi ka Vidhan if not rules of Vidhi the Supreme being, the goddess of destiny, bhagya.

Quoting from the scripture:

When the Kali age will set in, certain princes of Bharata's line, to be called by the name of Kauravas, will take their birth from thee. They will be celebrated over the Earth as high-souled princes ruling over powerful kingdoms. Born of thee, dissensions will break out among them ending in their destruction at one another's hands excepting yourself. O foremost of regenerate persons, in that age also, endued with austere penances, thou wilt distribute the Vedas into diverse classes.

And in Mahabharat, Lord Vishnu is depicted as the Supreme Being and not Adi Shakthi. Every Parva begins with salutations to Lord Vishnu and not Adi Shakthi.

Krishn no doubt was the hero of Mahabharat may be pre planned it as you said. Yes, I have read past life of Ved Vyas ji and Vishnuji.

But what I meant was that whatever happened in past lives of characters, incidents are too many to pin point on any one particular incident which lead to Mahabharat war. May be Supreme lord (for me it's Adi Shakti 😉 not lord Vishnu) made those incidents to happen so that in Future the world could have Mahabharat and could learn from it.

Like, when Jay and Vijay were cursed, may be it was planned by Vishnu ji but when Brahma ji cursed the 5 wives of Devtas, was it too planned by vishnu ji? there are other incidents too such as Sage Vasistht cursed Vasu Devtas they would be born thru Gangaji's womb to get rid of this curse, was it planned by Vishnuji? I remember even Ganga ji and Shantanu were cursed too by Indra Dev (don't remember clearly who cursed) in their past lives when they were in Swarg when they were admiring each other. Was it too pre planned by Vishnuji?

May be yes as a Supreme being, but then it depends upon a person whom he considers as Supreme Being.

Every good festival or karya begins with Ganeshji's worship first and lashmi ji, ptira, 9 grehas or planets, Vishnuji, kuldevi shivji, Parameshwari all are invoked depending upon which festival it is or what sort of worship it is and for what karya worship is being done.

For example, on Ganesh Chaturthi Ganesh ji is invioked and then his parents and brother.
On Diwali Lakshmi ji and his sons shubh labh his wives sihhdi and buddhi

On Mahamritunjay jap it is a very very big worship and yagya and lots of japs are required to complete it and almost all the gods are invoked and it takes more then one month to complete it but main god is Shiv ji.

Krishnji is sometimes worshipped as just krishnji without any reference of Vishnu ji. Shri Nathji, there he is, a form of Krishnji. Pushtimarg Vallabhacharyaji, Gosain ji, Gokul nathji is followed more then Shrinathji.

Dear there is not one way of worshipping, millions of different forms of worship exist in our country.

Sorry cannot give you any link it will take a huge time for me to find links so please google them yourself if you are interested.

Narayanam namaskritya. Naram chaiva narottamam. Deveem sarasvateem vyaasam. Tato jayamudeerayet.

Also it was Shishupala and Dantavakra. Not Kamsa 😊

I forgot the names of other brother 😕😆

I would definitely change the death of Abhimanyu and Karna. Especially the betrayal of Karna by his own mother Kunti.

I would not change anything! because each incident has its own significance and represent something imp. if something could be altered there would not be any mahabharat! it would b just another goody goody story!

Originally posted by: bobbiswas

Yes .. Keshab ... Arjuna ... Karna trio. Deadly

Let Draupadi marry Karna (as he would have accomplished the challenge easily unless stopped with sutaputra clause). Then Karna eldest son and king. Arjuna married happily with Subhadra.

Leave aside Duryodhan .. no one would have challenged kuntiputras with Karna as warrior and King and Bhim + Arjuna in his group and Krishna as advisor

omg bob so agreed lol