Who killed Abhimanyu? - Page 3

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

There was no Jayadrath anywhere near Abhimanyu. When Abhimanyu was killed, Dushashan & a whole bunch of Kauravas danced around the body. Similar to what they had done on day 1 to Sveta. Bhima returned the favor when he killed Dushashan

In BRC, what they showed - Duryodhan throwing flowers @ Abhimanyu's feet - was pure fiction, nothing more, nothing less.

Dancing around the body is not mentioned in the original text. Nothing as such happened. This is mentioned in the later additional text. The scholars have added more spice in Abhimanyu's death-story.

Oh another discussion on Abhimanyu..

Originally posted by: Ddiala

Oh another discussion on Abhimanyu..

Why Arjuna picked Jayadratha? this is what I think.. Because he knew the actual men behind were Yudishtar his Brother & Drona his Guru.. he respects and loves them both.. Killing them is no question at all..

Killing others may be he felt were difficult, time consuming, or killing them was part of someone else's vow..

So he picked Jayadratha instead to instantly vent his rage.. to his bad luck it did not happen instantly..

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

No, it was the Shamshaptakas - Krishna's army gift to Duryodhan - who distracted Arjun by challenging him.

Jayadrath's role in this was that after Abhimanyu had penetrated the formation, Jayadrath quickly plugged it again to prevent any further leakage of the enemy into the Kaurava ranks. The boon that Shiva had given him was that on a day, he'd defeat the 4 of the Pandavas, excluding Arjun, but he would still die @ Arjun's hands. That went into effect that day, and whereas normally, Jayadrath was a mediocre warrior, that day, he blocked not only the Pandavas, but everyone else - Satyaki, Drupada, Virata, Dhrishtadyumna, Ghatotkacha and so on.

Abhimanyu was deceptively disarmed by Karna breaking his bow from behind, Drona breaking the reins of his chariot & killing Sumitra, his charioteer. Then they broke his sword, shield and chariot, and there was that famous scene of him defending himself w/ just his chariot wheel. That too was broken.

From this point, most serials get it wrong. Even BRC and RS-SK showed Karna killing him, but that's not what happened. Abhimanyu next picked up his mace, and Dushashan's son attacked him w/ his mace. Now, thisone was a fair 1:1 combat. Both of them fell unconscious after a while. Shrutakarna was the first to recover, whereas Abhimanyu, being exhausted, took more time. Here is where Shrutakarna cheated - instead of waiting for Abhimanyu to get up, he brought his mace down on Abhimanyu's head while he was still unconscious, slaying him.

If anyone ought to have been hunted down for Abhimanyu's killing, it should have been first Drona, and then Shrutakarna.

I think the Samsaptakas were actually the Trigarthas. Krishna's army is Narayani Sena, isn't it?
Samsaptakhas is somekind of oath between trigarthas brothers to fight arjun to death (if im not mistaken)

The Narayanis only were the Shamshaptakas. The Trigartha princes were killed throughout the war, and Susharma was the last major Kaurava warrior to be slain by Arjun - the same time that Bhima killed Sudarshan & Sahadev Ulooka & Shakuni.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

The Narayanis only were the Shamshaptakas. The Trigartha princes were killed throughout the war, and Susharma was the last major Kaurava warrior to be slain by Arjun - the same time that Bhima killed Sudarshan & Sahadev Ulooka & Shakuni.

Here, bro..look at the KMG's foot note
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14074.htm

128:1 It will be remembered that the Samsaptaka host which had engaged Arjuna for several days on the field of Kurukshetra, all consisted of Trigarta warriors led by their king Susarman, Samsaptaka means 'sworn'. Those soldiers who took the oath that they would either conquer or die, wore called by that name.



Or here, The Samsaptakas
"Samsaptaka means 'sworn warrior'. They were the bravest of the Trigartas, who, led by their King Susarman, had sworn an oath to either kill Arjuna or die in that attempt. After swearing their oaths, they performed their own funeral rites, for they well knew that their chances of victory were slim, and that death was almost a certainty."

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Killing Yudisthir was out of the question, but killing Dronacharya was certainly okay. Same w/ Dushashan's son - you can bet that Arjun wasn't sentimental about him being his nephew. Yeah, killing Drona was Dhrishtadyumna's role, but there was nothing stopping Arjun from, say, engaging Drona while Dhrishtadyumna killed him from behind.

And nobody had taken a vow to slay Dushashan's son. I think he may have been ultimately killed by either Bhima, or one of Draupadi's sons, not sure whom, or on which day.

as far as i know, dushasan's son killed abhimanyu in a mace fight inside the chakravyuha. it was jayadratha who prevented the 4 pandavas from entering the vyuh & thereby trapping abhi inside. actually jayadratha had got a boon from Mahadev that he vil be able to beat pandavas 1ce except arjuna. he got the boon after he tried to abduct draupadi. as per the order of drona, karna cut his now & broke his chariot. then y didn't arjuna pledged to kill drona ??? abhi went in willingly even though he did not knew how to get out. he was killed in a 1 on 1 mace fight with durmashan.

Ddiala was right, maybe from pandavas point of view, Jayadhrat was the closest and the last person responsible as they cant see what's inside the chakravyuh..
But overall he almost had nothing to do with it, he just playing his part to keep the formation, rearranged it after it was breached (by abhimanyu).. Why blame him?
What's so good about a FORMATION if one enemy approaching, they have to send a warrior ONE BY ONE to fight him fairly!? The basic point of a formation is to STAY TOGETHER in CERTAIN ORDER! Why expect them to break up?

One more step backward u could blame the trigartas who challenged Arjun! Or even yudishthir!
Why blame anyone by the way? Didnt arjun kill other people's SON or husband or father everyday?

Originally posted by: SamVam786

So please stop unnecessarily criticising Arjuna everytime on public domain & stop giving sympathy votes to Karna!

Jai Hind..

satsriyakal..😉😊