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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree. Drona is highly overrated. If one wants the greatest guru of all, I'd list people like Vaisistha (for Rama), as well as Brihaspati & Shukracharya, and maybe toss in some others like Sandipani. But Drona was totally corrupt and nepotic, and didn't deserve half the powers he had.

I agree that Drupada was an ingrate, and better behavior could have been expected. But from there on, Drona's entire life revolves around weapons, and he, just to satisfy his ego, teaches Arjun weapons that even Arjun never used, like the Brahmashira, and then taught the same to Ashwatthama, who didn't deserve it. Had Drona taught it to neither, things would have been better.

Anyway, I digress, but yeah, it was Drona who told Karna that the only way to defeat Abhimanyu was by attacking him from behind. Even the combined attack on him had failed. It was on Drona's suggestion that Karna broke his bow from behind.

That's why I have little patience for those who include Drona's killing as a sinful act of cowardice. Drona even used divine weapons against ordinary soldiers, which was why Krishna suggested to Yudisthir to lie to him about Ashwatthama
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhimanyu was brutally murdered. Its nt certain as of who killed Abhimanyu. Bt during his death , Dronacharya,Karna and the Kauravs were present. So its uncertain as to who killed Abhimanyu.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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its been 5 years I had 1st read mahabharat and the most emotional point in the whole story was Abhimanyu's death. I was in 6th standard that time and the book I read was like any other book which children read but, that part of the story where Abhimanyu was killed brutally made me cry the first time I read it.

for your question till now these are my analysis:
1.1st one responsible for Abhimanyu death was as I said in my earlier comment was jayadrath. neither he would have used the boon which shiva had granted it was impossible for Abhimanyu's vadh by any fair means

2.drona. he had used the chakravyuha upon onward comments thrown by duryodhana about his partiality towards pandavas. duryodhana had requested to drona that he must capture yudhistira alive so that he can defeat the latter in another game of dice and again sed him to exile. Drona said that when arjun is protecting yudhistira its impossible to capture him. so duryodhana sent a group of Shamshaptakas to distract him. arjuna had been successfully distracted and Drona formed the chakravyuha to capture yudhishtira. but abhimayu entered the chakravyuha and was left alone in it. though he was just 16 years he created havoc in the whole chakravyuha and destroyed almost 3/4th of an akshouhini army. to save themselves karna asked for a suggestion from Drona to which the latter replied that by attacking from back and then by together i.e. more than 1 person attacking him

3. dushasana's son Durmashana. in a single combat with Abhimanyu both of them fell unconscious and he recovered first in an urge to kill Abhimanyu hit the mace on Abhimanyu's head so hard that the recovering Abhimanyu collapsed dead. it was a complete illict means to kill him.

4. all the seven warriors who attacked a single Abhimanyu and destroyed all his weapons and the whole chariot.

5. partially yudhistira. even though knowing the huge risk on Abhimanyu's life he under took it. he knew that Abhimanyu was arjuna's favourite and had left him on his protection. by taking risk he was also one of the reason for Abhimanyu's death indirectly. p.s. here I'm not pointing out on yudhistira. it was his responsibility to save his army so he had to send Abhimanyu into the chakravyuha but unknowingly became the indirect cause of abhimanyu's death


so my conclusion is the person who is directly responsible for abhimanyu's death is Durmashana(dushasana's son)
and the indirectly responsible are the others who I have mentioned above

I hope I have answered to your expectations

Edited by srujanahpvr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhimanyu held Warriors like Karna and Drona at bay( and injured Drona) that means he was on par with them at that point of time,This doesn't mean that abhimanyu defeated Karna and Drona.

Drona once said that he sees no fault in Abhimanyu's archery that can be exploited and thus commanded the army to use his chakravyuh ,remember Karna too was a part of the army when it was commanded by Drona and if Karna would have refused that it is wrong to kill him like that ,It would have been dis-loyalty to duryodhana which he never did, he was just a warrior under the commands of DRONA same goes for everyone jaydrath and etc.

The main reason for abhimanyu's death is DRONA not Karna not jaydrath not anyone but Drona he was the one who commanded the army and gave everyone orders.
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#15
Durmashana delivered the last, the ultimate blow which killed abhimanyu.
But who was responsible for the murder?Well, the answers will be different, varying from person to person.
Arjuna believed it was jaydarath.
To me all the 8 were equally responsible regardless of who delivered the last blow for the ultimate kill.Maybe drona a little bit more.But karna, kripa and everyone is right there.
It is the thought that counts and obviously they all were going for the same thing, trying to reach the same goal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: veeranu

Abhimanyu was brutally murdered. Its nt certain as of who killed Abhimanyu. Bt during his death , Dronacharya,Karna and the Kauravs were present. So its uncertain as to who killed Abhimanyu.



Not certain? Here is the original:

Then that great car-warrior, the son of Arjuna, took up a mighty mace. Deprived by them of his bow and car and sword, and divested also of his wheel by his foes, the mighty-armed Abhimanyu (mace in hand) rushed against Aswatthaman. Beholding that mace upraised, which looked like the blazing thunderbolt, Aswatthaman, that tiger among men, rapidly alighted from his car and took three (long) leaps (for avoiding Abhimanyu). Slaying Aswatthaman's steeds and two Parshni charioteers with that mace of his, Subhadra's son, pierced all over with arrows, looked like a porcupine. Then that hero pressed Suvala's son, Kalikeya, down into the earth, and stew seven and seventy Gandhara followers of the latter. Next, he slew ten car-warriors of the Brahma-Vasatiya race, and then ten huge elephants. Proceeding next towards the car of Duhsasana's son, he crushed the latter's car and steeds, pressing them down into the earth. The invincible son of Duhsasan, then, O sire, taking up his mace, rushed at Abhimanyu. saying, 'Wait, Wait!' Then those cousins, those two heroes, with upraised maces, began to strike each other, desirous of achieving each other's death, like three-eyed (Mahadeva) and (the Asura) Andhaka in the days of old. I ach of those chastisers of foes, struck with the other's mace-ends fell down on the earth, like two uprooted standards erected to the honour of Indra. Then Duhsasana's son, that enhancer of the fame of the Kurus, rising up first, struck Abhimanyu with the mace on the crown of his head, as the latter, was on the point of rising. Stupefied with the violence of that stroke as also with the fatigue he had undergone, that slayer of hostile hosts, viz., the son of Subhadra, fell on the earth, deprived of his senses. Thus, O king, was one slain by many in battle,--one who had ground the whole army, like an elephant grinding lotus-stalks in a lake. As he lay dead on the field, the heroic Abhimanyu looked like a wild elephant slain by the hunters, The fallen hero was then surrounded by thy troops. And he looked like an extinguished fire in the summer season after (as it lies) having consumed a whole forest, or like a tempest divested of its fury after having crushed mountain crests; 1 or like the sun arrived at the western hills after having blasted with his heat the Bharata host; or like Soma swallowed up by Rahu; or like the ocean reft of water. The mighty car-warriors of thy army beholding Abhimanyu whose face had the splendour of the full moon, and whose eyes were rendered beautiful in consequence of lashes black as the feathers of the raven, lying prostrate on the bare earth, were filled with great joy.


One can argue about who was ultimately responsible - whether it was Jayadrath or Drona or Karna. But the above clearly shows that it was Duhsasan's son who killed Abhimanyu. Notably, his name hasn't been mentioned, but in a book 'Who's who in the Mahabharata', I read the name as being Shrutakarna.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I still don't understand why Drona killed his favourite student's son.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheWatcher

Abhimanyu held Warriors like Karna and Drona at bay( and injured Drona) that means he was on par with them at that point of time,This doesn't mean that abhimanyu defeated Karna and Drona.

Drona once said that he sees no fault in Abhimanyu's archery that can be exploited and thus commanded the army to use his chakravyuh ,remember Karna too was a part of the army when it was commanded by Drona and if Karna would have refused that it is wrong to kill him like that ,It would have been dis-loyalty to duryodhana which he never did, he was just a warrior under the commands of DRONA same goes for everyone jaydrath and etc.

The main reason for abhimanyu's death is DRONA not Karna not jaydrath not anyone but Drona he was the one who commanded the army and gave everyone orders.



That bull among Kshatriyas then loudly urged the Kshatriyas under him, saying, 'Slay this one!' Then Drona, and Kripa, and Karna, and Drona's son and Vrihadvala, and Kritavarman, the son of Hridika,--these six car-warriors,---encompassed Abhimanyu. Piercing them with sharp arrows and beating them off from him, the son of Arjuna fell with great speed and fury upon the vast forces of Jayadratha. Thereupon, the Kalingas, the Nishadas, and the valiant son of Kratha, all clad in mail, cut off his path by encompassing him with their elephant-division. The battle then that took place between Phalguni's son and those warriors was obstinate and fierce. Then the son of Arjuna began to destroy that elephant-division as the wind coursing in every direction destroys vast masses of gathering clouds in the welkin. Then Kratha covered the son of Arjuna with showers of arrows, while many other car-warriors headed by Drona, having returned to the field, rushed at him, scattering sharp and mighty weapons. Checking all those weapons by means of his own arrows, the son of Arjuna began to afflict the son of Kratha with ceaseless showers of shafts, with great despatch and inspired by the desire of slaying his antagonist. The latter's bow and shafts, and bracelets, and arms, and head decked with diadem, and umbrella, and standard, and charioteer, and steeds, were all cut off and felled by Abhimanyu. When Kratha's son, possessed of nobility of lineage, good behaviour, acquaintance with the scriptures, great strength, fame, and power of arms, was slain, the other heroic combatants almost all turned away from the fight.'"

Many amongst them, endued with great strength, drawing their bows full six cubits long, showered on the heroic son of Subhadra arrowy downpours like torrents of rain. Subhadra's son, however, that slayer of hostile heroes, paralysed by his shafts all those great bowmen, conversant with every branch of learning. And he pierced Drona with fifty arrows and Vrihadvala with twenty. And piercing Kritavarman with eighty shafts, he pierced Kripa with sixty. And the son of Arjuna pierced Aswatthaman with ten arrows equipped with golden wings, endued with great speed and shot from his bow drawn to its fullest stretch. And the son of Phalguni pierced Karna, in the midst of his foes, in one of his cars, with a bright, well-tempered, and bearded arrow of great force. Felling the steeds yoked to Kripa's car, as also both his Parshni charioteers, Abhimanyu pierced Kripa himself in the centre of the chest with ten arrows. The mighty Abhimanyu, then, in the very sight of thy heroic sons, slew the brave Vrindaraka, that enhancer of the fame of the Kurus. While Abhimanyu was thus engaged in fearlessly slaying one after another the foremost warriors among his enemies, Drona's son Aswatthaman pierced him with five and twenty small arrows. The son of Arjuna, however, in the very sight of all the Dhartarashtras quickly pierced Aswatthaman in return, O sire, with many whetted shafts. Drona's son, however, in return, piercing Abhimanyu. with sixty fierce arrows of great impetuosity and keen sharpness, failed to make him tremble, for the latter, pierced by Aswatthaman, stood immovable like the Mainaka mountain. Endued with great energy, the mighty Abhimanyu then pierced his antagonist with three and seventy straight arrows, equipped with wings of gold. Drona then, desirous of rescuing his son, pierced Abhimanyu with a hundred arrows. And Aswatthaman pierced him with sixty arrows, desirous of rescuing his father. And Karna struck him with two and twenty broad-headed arrows and Kritavarman struck him with four and ten. And Vrihadvala pierced him with fifty such shafts, and Saradwata's son,Kripa, with ten. Abhimanyu, however, pierced each of these in return with ten shafts. The ruler of the Kosala struck Abhimanyu, in the chest with a barbed arrow. Abhimanyu, however, quickly felled on the earth his antagonist's steeds and standard and bow and charioteer. The ruler of the Kosalas, then, thus deprived of his car, took up a sword and wished to sever from Abhimanyu's trunk his beautiful head, decked with ear-rings. Abhimanyu then pierced king Vrihadvala, the ruler of the Kosalas, in the chest, with a strong arrow. The latter then, with riven heart, fell down. Beholding this, ten thousand illustrious kings broke and fled. Those kings, armed with swords and bows, fled away, uttering words inimical (to king Duryodhana's Interest). Having slain 2 Vrihadvala thus, the son of Subhadra careered it battle, paralysing thy warriors,---those great bowmen,--by means of arrowy downpours, thick as rain.'"

"Sanjaya said, 'Phalguni's son once more pierced Karna in the car with a barbed arrow, and for angering him still further, he pierced him with fifty other shafts. The son of Radha pierced Abhimanyu in return with as many shafts. Covered all over with arrows, Abhimanyu, then, O sire, looked exceedingly beautiful. Filled with rage, he caused Karna also to be bathed in blood. Mangled with arrows and covered with blood, the brave Karna also shone greatly. 2 Both of them pierced with arrows, both bathed in blood, those illustrious warriors then resembled a couple of flowering Kinsukas. The son of Subhadra then slew six of Karna's brave counsellors, conversant with all modes of warfare, with their steeds and charioteers and cars. As regards other great bowmen Abhimanyu fearlessly pierced each of them in return, with ten arrows. That feat of his seemed highly wonderful. Slaying next the son of the ruler of the Magadhas, Abhimanyu, with six straight shafts, slew the youthful Aswaketu with his four steeds and charioteer. Then slaying, with a sharp razor-headed arrow, the Bhoja prince of Martikavata, bearing the device of an elephant (on his banner), the son of Arjuna uttered a loud shout and began to scatter his shafts on all sides. Then the son of Duhsasana pierced the four steeds of Abhimanyu with four shafts, his charioteer with one and Abhimanyu himself with ten. The son of Arjuna, then, piercing Duhsasana's son with ten fleet shafts, addressed him in a loud tone and with eyes red in wrath, said, 'Abandoning the battle, thy sire hath fled like a coward. It is well thou knowest how to fight. Thou shalt not, however, escape today with life.' Saying these words unto him, Abhimanyu sped a long arrow, well polished by smith's hand, at his foe. The son of Drona cut that arrow with three shafts of his own. Leaving Aswatthaman alone, Arjuna's son struck Salya, in return, fearlessly pierced him in the chest with highly nine shafts, equipped with vulture's feathers. That feat seemed highly wonderful. The son of Arjuna then cut off Salya's bow and slew both his Parshnicharioteers. Abhimanyu then pierced Salya himself with six shafts made wholly of iron. Thereupon, the latter, leaving that steedless car, mounted another. Abhimanyu then slew five warriors., named Satrunjaya, and Chandraketu, and Mahamegba, and Suvarchas, and Suryabhasa. He then pierced Suvala's son.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well jaydrath disrespect abhimanu ..after his death jaydrath kicked his dead body...which is disrespect for warrior like abbimanyu...for this reason too arjun to decided to kill him
http://mahabore.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/the-story-of-jayadratha/
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Don_theEvil

Well jaydrath disrespect abhimanu ..after his death jaydrath kicked his dead body...which is disrespect for warrior like abbimanyu...for this reason too arjun to decided to kill him

http://mahabore.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/the-story-of-jayadratha/



There was no Jayadrath anywhere near Abhimanyu. When Abhimanyu was killed, Dushashan & a whole bunch of Kauravas danced around the body. Similar to what they had done on day 1 to Sveta. Bhima returned the favor when he killed Dushashan

In BRC, what they showed - Duryodhan throwing flowers @ Abhimanyu's feet - was pure fiction, nothing more, nothing less.

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