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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyachand


Trying to give it one more shot 😉

i do agree with all ur points Anitha! that is what i am trying to say. Till the village track, i could relate to JM's anger. she dint wnt to stay in a marriage with a guy with whom she couldnt relate to.

I believe nothing has changed in the city too since her views have remained the same. Infact, her move to city was engineered to reach her objective, that is get away from Raja and his family.



My issue is during village track, apart from regressive family she also noticed Raja's excessive love and care. she did realize that Raja loved her n was willign to do anythign for her - oppose his family or kill a person for touching her. either they shd ahve shown raja as violent lover, so that evn his love repulses her. but that ws not the case.

This is her journey and maybe not every aspect is clear for her at this point. There has to be room for realization. Over-riding every emotion was her need to get away first. If she started to recognize love, this would make her weak and end up shaking her resolve. In order to achieve her objective, she was closing doors of emotional feelings. I believe there has been an underlying push and pull from her side too given that she was reaching out to Raja in times of fear. Right or wrong, that is up for debate.


and JM if i remember was willing to put up with any kind of shit for the sake of family. now she has got a readymade family but she is shown hating them for anything and everything.

But Khushwa's are not the kind family JM wanted, infact they are the opposite of what she wants in a family and if she hates Agni, Bhanu and Tara, I am by her side. She has just cause.


Again i am not saying JM shd stay married just becos she is married to him. what i am seeing his her growing anger and revulsion towards Raja. The scenes dont warrant that anger n revulsion.


JM's expectations from her marriage or relationship with Raja are vastly different than him. She asked him at the outset to confess to the police abt AK, but did he? She attempted to stop him from beating a guy mercilessly, but did he?


i cd understand that only thought she has is to escape from this relationship. i want her to have some self talks that will make me understand her. otherwise, it looks irrational. yes Raja as a guy is violent, just becos he say i lvoe u, doesnt mean JM shd love him. But she ws not a quitter.

Exactly, something is rankling her to the extent that she wants to leave it all behind and move on.


she put up with LW n sweety becos she considered them family. as Raju, she liked taking care of him. bt with raja, equations change. so her attitude changes. me want some kind of self talks to make me understand her.

Character monologues have been an exception rather than a rule in MEIEJ. If we get 'em, well and good but for the most part we have been inferring and justifying events based on actions so far.


As a woman, even i would feel claustrophobic in such a village. But if u notice in pujas she dint have any hesitation while doing the rituals. she was all comfortable. she ws forced to come, bt did u see a twinge of hesitation. Nothing!

I noticed hesitation in her making a face when Baiji was talking to her before proceeding to the temple. The CVs stopped short of making her act up in the temple coz she was in front of God. I, for one have not appreciated the prior team showing failed pujas, aartis etc. before. Yes, she stayed quiet in the village coz there was virtually nowhere to go once she realized that her attempts to run away would result in innocents paying with their lives.



JM was shown going with the relationship in the vilage. she ws waiting to come back to city to escape. this cd be thre reason. bt her reasons for getting out of marriage needs more explanation.

so she wants to divorce raja on what grounds - violence?

Why not, if that is the reason for her abhorrence? But there is more at stake here, self-respect and equal treatment amongst other factors. Raja told her initially at the chawl after AK's death, he is the kind that will love his wife, will bear up with her tantrums but will do as he pleases.



Reg padmini! her chr was much more clearer! she put up with all kinds of violence. only when her unborn daughter's life was endangered, as a caring mom, she escaped. she dint stay and fight for she knew she wd lose. she took a chance n escaped.

Same padmini never hesitiated to use the same violence when needed. she did slap madhu, Trishna n evn RK if needed. and whn balraj came back, she in her sherni mother mode, killed him. cvs dint show her as peace loving person!

Padmini was pitted against a total black character, Balraj. CVs were not interested in redeeming that character and that is why Padmini pov was more clearer. Now we have a different kind of female lead.



for a girl unused to violence, a family whihc uses rifle for games must be scary. even more scary was the way they were treating their women. these things itself would scare women. with JM these were not the major issues. Raja n his jungli avatar seem to be the major issue.

I believe treatment of women was another issue coz standing by the window after the Bhanu incident, she recounted to Raja that her "wajood" was hurt more than anything.


that jungli term confuses me! and i hate it btw!

that is why i feel JM's anger though believable but the extremity confuses me. need more explanation!


No doubt, there have been character inconsistencies and is probably the reason for confusion. Also, we see Raja and Rani playing separately as in a deck of cards atm. I am hoping to see this game move to the chessboard where they will play side by side instead.

i dont know whether i made my thoughts clear or i confused u even more?😆

Dunno if I was able to understand and clear some doubts, but I tried...😆

Edited by blacklambo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32
Nice analysis guys
keep it up😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: BeautyForAshes


Bella...U still didn't updated ur full post on 1st page...I waited desperately for that...😳
Anyways coming to yesterdays's review...A really Nice review...and a really different POV...hat's off to u for being so positive... 👏

--Glad the Creatives have not spoiled JM or Raja's character ! they have always been flawed...n both of them never try to understand what the other one feels ...they just want to express what they knw n what they feel for each other !!!

--from the story point of view this Huge Gamble is necessary ! i feel this shud give us a hand in boosting TRP's ...at least to see WHAT NEXT !!!! now all of us are worried how the story will proceed further ...but i kind of have gut feelin this is definitely gonna work in our favor...i mean favor of the show's progress ! they wont dare show us such a twist in the tale without a strong back up story !!

so just like all general audience am eagerly waiting to see their (RM's) Next move !

I agree CV's didn't spoiled their characters...but that incident which can bring a huge twist in their life didn't changed anything in their life... Raja is still ranting his Love rant for his Rani without feeling remorseful (well may he didn't even know what happened last night so I can excuse that...) and Rani is still feeling disgusting towards him or may be she is loathing him now...so what changes that huge twist brought in their life...??? I guess nothing... 🤔 So now how will they shape up the Love story...I m confuse...but still lets see how will their story will kick start... I m also waiting too see that eagerly...

* back to the episode ...
My POV .. Raja is soo much in love with her n we know it ...and this is not the first time he is receiving an insult from rani ...yet he keeps a distance ..n never goes out of control ...ppl might argue as to why he drank the alcohol in the first place ..but being totally pissed off he din mind it coming from bhanu ..n in that moment he wud have gotten drunk if nyone else wr is bhanu's place too ...so we cant blame him there for drinking ..coz Raja is not mahaan !

even after soo deadly drunk ...even after knocking the door for long her reverts back ...n tells bhanu that he doesnt want to as rani dislikes ! ...note he was not pushed once but many times...

and the peak of it all ...He is a MAN... he is Drunk... (lets leave out that magic masala Bhanu mixed ) ...he is so much in love...n he feels he feels hurt !
so he proceeds to go on with the Mentality/teachings of his BG ...which has Only taught him to keep woman under their feet n to control them ! so he is done with the deed !

Bella I really felt bad for Raja yesterday...he love her and really care for her feeling...he never wanted to hurt her that's why even after being insulted by her he never hurt her in anyway... he was ready to change himself back to Raju just to get her love but her rejection broke him again but still he did nothing and even he was controlling himself not to do anything to hurt her after being drugged and drunk... but yeah her rejection and her hurtful words and the drug made him to take that step...

Rani : as a woman she became powerless in front of him ...n had to give in ...but if u see the ONLY thing that rings in her head the next morning is " Hum tumse bohot pyaar karte hai rani ...hum tumse zabardasti nahi karna chate hai"...so her only Q is how cud Raja do this to her? ...while he was talking about being in LOVE wit her for so long ...

U know I was really mad at JM when she again insulted Raja...I mean she always said she love Raju not Raja...so when Raja said he'll try be her Raju for her...atleast she should have given him a chance but may be her hatred towards him was bigger than anything else...but then I felt bad for her too after whatever happened with her...

and Raja he has no clue to what he has done ...that's why he says ...how can loving one can become a rape? ...i want to talk a lil more about them ...but ill reserve my comments for tomorrow ...

That is what the worst thing I felt in the episode...next morning I thought he'll regret but then his dialogue was a big turn off...but again as u said may be due to all the drinks and drugs effect he didn't even know what happened last night...what sin he committed actually..so that's why he said that... so lets see what is the truth actually...

the ultimate villain is Bhanu...when i say this i don't justify anybody action ...and bhanu's ONLY aim to to BREAK raja into pieces...he tried to kill him once (physically)...but god was in R's favor n he returned back ...Agni tried to scare/kill rani with the snake ...but failed ...the third atteplt was to hurt R or M or both...so that they wud leave the gaon for good ..but alas they had to accompany them to Mumbai ...
the fourth attempt ...trying to create a drift between RM ...bu again failed as he realized there is nothing betw them in the first place... to Break ! so he opts to BREAK his HEART ...the heart that longs for Madhu's Love !!

so with this new method...he instigated Raja !
right nw...bahnu's target is not only Raja but also Madhu for all the insults he received from her ...
so he has chosen this way...n its a double win for him... he killed JM thro Raja ...and seeing Raja's love for M...he knows the HATE from her will be His END ...afterall Rani means the WORLD to him !!! Breaking her is Like Breaking him !!! this time JM is not hurt by nyone else but him ... the person who time n again confessed his love for her 💔...

will this break Raja ?? Bhanu has Hit this time on the Right spot ...will he succeed in making them fall apart ??? will JM easily give in ??

I agree it's Bhanu who is the real culprit... after trying to finish Raja and Madhu when he didn't succeeded...so he finally got the biggest weakness of Raja that is his Rani... he knew if his Rani will leave him forever then he'll be broken and it will really easy for him to finish him off that is what Bhanu wanted and that is what he did...Now we have to see he'll get success in his this plan or not...


waiting to see how the story is gonna proceed !!!!
Same here...but I m scared...how will their love story will start from here...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello dear all ...
i was tooo too lazy on Sunday that i left my post incomplete ...sowiee😳 ...
have updated with a lil thought ...gist of what happ last week ...n few dialogues which i found good !!!😃

now back to replying all ur posts :)
will do that soon ...😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@anitha

u did clarify some of the doubts! i do accept her anger n eagerness to escape, but i wish we get some dialogues to understand JM better.

after yesterday's episode, i dont know wht to expect?

Did it happen?

Did Raja do it?

Or will Madhu lie about it?

if the deed was done, will Raja realize the impact of his evil deed!

drugged or conscious, he needs to take the responsibility.

it is really a big gamble by the CVs. if it works, i am scared to htink how other shows will start aping it! already unwedding twist has been aped by other shows.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyachand

@anitha

u did clarify some of the doubts! i do accept her anger n eagerness to escape, but i wish we get some dialogues to understand JM better.

after yesterday's episode, i dont know wht to expect?

Did it happen?

Did Raja do it?

Or will Madhu lie about it?

if the deed was done, will Raja realize the impact of his evil deed!

drugged or conscious, he needs to take the responsibility.

it is really a big gamble by the CVs. if it works, i am scared to htink how other shows will start aping it! already unwedding twist has been aped by other shows.

Priya, I might have had better explanations but frankly after viewing the episode yesterday, I was zapped 🤢😲. I was hoping against hope that they won't go this far inspite of the precap. Based on JM's dialogue the next morning to Raja, I took to believing that the deed did occur but NF could play it either way considering they left some room for doubt. Ami tells me that this issue has been successfully handled in the past by Ekta in her shows too. But did we have to go this route to build the love-hate track between the leads? 😕😕😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Anita :

if u see RG is EKTA's Favorite director ...she always calls him for the rescue or to kick start her soaps !!!

and the man RG has been the pillar of so many successful shows n tracks ...
with his experience am sure this track will be handled best ⭐️!!!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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oh god i am scared to see today's episode!

it has never happned like this
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: BeautyForAshes

@Anita :

if u see RG is EKTA's Favorite director ...she always calls him for the rescue or to kick start her soaps !!!

and the man RG has been the pillar of so many successful shows n tracks ...
with his experience am sure this track will be handled best ⭐️!!!!

Thanx Bella for the info coz I did not know that fact. KKB is the first of Ekta's show that I am watching atm. Hope RG lives up to the reputation he has acquired for MEIEJ too 😉. It is a huge gamble and inspite of swallowing this bitter pill, I want it to pay off.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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what is confusing about precap?
I saw some saying madhu may accuse him on a false note..mujhe aisa kuch nahin dikha 😕

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