My HypocrISY lol - Page 2

Originally posted by: Mahi78

Agree with u completely, 😊, my family quit the show the day RK kidnaped Madhu and she gave in to his wishes, my mom says if this is the treatment a women is given in the society? She couldn't take that rubbish, now again we started back viewing the show loved this typical family drama where we can shave a small laugh at certain circumstances but now the promo killed all their interest, but I'm still stuck to it by YT just for my DD.😭

My brother threatened to kill me if I again see that crap show.😆

Being a women It feels so humiliating to watch all that kind of women abuse.😡

The TRPs will teach NF a good lesson. I don't think many of the ppl who wanted VD back in the show r the ppl who watch MB online, trp audience don't have the same POV

I agree with you, but with this bold the most. In fact I stop with this show when RK make of Madhu stupid second time. In that moment I said to myself this show never again, its really sick. I lov DD a lot, she is for me DIVA. But stil I didnt want to watch this crap, then comes Sultan I really loved that guys with Madhu. i was think finally something good for Madhu, but there is cvs to destroy that again. With bold I made also end again to show, now I start again to watch. In still they only now to destroy show. With red also I agree with, with his back you will see I mean all that nothing will change for this show.

Let me point out the hypocrisy few mention: the hypocrisy of rooting for the love story of a "marriage" which was done through force, blackmail and humiliation. Logical plot development and characterization could only go two ways: the woman leaving, or with her forever taking the abuse dished out (here too, there are two options: either the woman has no choice, or she's stuck in a toxic, vicious cycle where she accepts all the abuse and humiliation through her own will).

Originally posted by: sourapple

It's so gratifying to find like-minded people. I completely agree with you. I'm also starting to think that of the two, Abhinav Shukla doesn't have what it takes to helm the production of Madhubala. In my opinion, Saurabh Tewari, in his absence, has come across as the brains behind MEIEJ. Unfortunately that means there's no salvaging the show now.

Love the way you put it. Couldn't agree more. All that time ST would take the brunt of my rage lol.

Originally posted by: likarsh

Let me point out the hypocrisy few mention: the hypocrisy of rooting for the love story of a "marriage" which was done through force, blackmail and humiliation. Logical plot development and characterization could only go two ways: the woman leaving, or with her forever taking the abuse dished out (here too, there are two options: either the woman has no choice, or she's stuck in a toxic, vicious cycle where she accepts all the abuse and humiliation through her own will).

Don't just start complaint of humiliation and abuse from unwedding onwards. Real wedding then would have been a romanticization of the humiliation and abuse the story--the half-marriage--started off with, and which progressed with the woman choosing her abusive patidev over her father, never giving her father a chance till patidev encouraged her to forgive.

If you want to complain about humiliation of woman, don't support such sick and disgusting love stories which start of with the woman not only being STRIPPED of her agency, but publicly humiliated, demeaned and abused.

Madhu was never allowed to move on, whether it be by the fans, the channel, AS, or whomever. Next course of action was to be consistent and true to the root of Rishbala. Hence further humiliation and abuse even after the real wedding.

Name one Popular Indian show that doesn't show woman abuse then the woman fights back? That is the basic story of many Indian tv shows. And the ones that don't have that kind of story just have husbands and other male characters just standing in the back nodding their heads. So if they don't have the woman abuse story, they turn to saas bahu drama and kitchen politics. I'm not trying to prove a point or anything but I just thought of that when I was reading your post. Sorry if I didn't make any sense.

Originally posted by: sanghita0000

well I partly agree with u...they never showed the bollywood life style ...initially it was exciting , but then they made a blunder by making RK to confess so soon...His bad boy image was appreciated by most of the trp audience , but they messed it up by bringing sultan track...it was not necessary to introduce this character that too a love triangle...it would have been nice if they showed sultan as a producer launching madhu as his movie's heroine ...but instead they showed him as a don with an irritating kid chanting madoo...😆...it would have been better if they showed no step brother track , it was very stupid & ridiculous...again they made Rishbala marriage to take place so soon...It would have been better if they showed RK vs madhu in film industry...their competition to get no 1 actor title...madhu as RK's toughest competitor , offcourse with the support of producer cum friend sultan...no love track between sultan & madhu...come on , a girl & a boy could be friends too...not necessary that always they had to show as love interests...They could have shown Madhu's struggle to maintain her popularity , her link ups with co actors & other producers or directors...her struggle to maintain professional life & personal life...her equation with trishna (after madhu becoming a star) who always wanted to be a heroine (but they forgot this character completely)...Then the reaction of RK due to madhu's popularity & her link ups...Instead of showing ridiculous crazy meera , RK's jail track , sultan's lusting over his bhabhi , they could have shown RK's background story ( how he became a star , his initial days with dipali , dipali dumping RK & then marrying his brother , how RK met bittuji & became close to each other , & how sweet & innocent Rishabh kundra became ruthless & cunning RK...)...Again they could have shown RK;s realization & marriage of Rishbala at the climax of the show instead of bringing some stupid krk track & pabo track...

Dude, I could not agree with the bold more.
See here is the problem. They went wayyy to far with RK. And once that line was crossed (from anti-hero to villain) there's no way you can go back. Which is why the stupid filler tracks instead of what was originally promised.

The problem with Sultan was that writers were furthering Sulbala while playing it safe (ex: RK Madhu re-marriage). Somewhere during the "guy and girl can be friends" relationship and the "I secretly want to elope with you" looks Madhu gave Sultan (plus her practically adopting his son) they managed to alienate Rishbala audience because, i mean what the hell, that would suck lol. And then they tried to do damage control, but too little to late. There is a section of Rishbala audience that wants the two together no matter what and are satisfied. But there are quite a few who just decide, screw it, because to them the quality of the relationship matters.

Originally posted by: shweta2728

Name one Popular Indian show that doesn't show woman abuse then the woman fights back? That is the basic story of many Indian tv shows. And the ones that don't have that kind of story just have husbands and other male characters just standing in the back nodding their heads. So if they don't have the woman abuse story, they turn to saas bahu drama and kitchen politics. I'm not trying to prove a point or anything but I just thought of that when I was reading your post. Sorry if I didn't make any sense.

Originally posted by: shweta2728

Name one Popular Indian show that doesn't show woman abuse then the woman fights back? That is the basic story of many Indian tv shows. And the ones that don't have that kind of story just have husbands and other male characters just standing in the back nodding their heads. So if they don't have the woman abuse story, they turn to saas bahu drama and kitchen politics. I'm not trying to prove a point or anything but I just thought of that when I was reading your post. Sorry if I didn't make any sense.

@Shweta: I totally agree. And I don't even mind these stories, if they show some progress at least. Shows like BV get such negative press, but they come off as being much more female centric and progressive than some other "modern" shows.

Oh, I read your first line again, Shweta. Tell me, whenever did Madhu fight back? Even get a chance to either leave him, move away from him or give it back? Other than her attempting to do so for a handful of episodes at best. Most of these serials never even show the women giving it deservedly back to the jackasses for the abuse.

Originally posted by: likarsh

Right, the whole industry promotes regressive thinking. And the audience instead of being disgusted laps it up. Isn't that the problem? These people can't be bothered to show anything progressive, because that would mean making the women progressive thinking women.

I do think Youth channel shows may be different.

As for your question, I am very much behind but I think a particular new Colors show would go into this category...though I am still stuck in early Feb. I usually watch that show in binges. However, it has saas bahu instead, which is another regressive BS. Women doing disgusting acts and plotting and never really paying for it, since they are family.

(That being said, I still don't think that show has turned into a kitchen drama, but I may be wrong.)

By Kitchen politics, I meant like vamps plotting against the heroines. Kinda like deepali and madhu. But I liked deepali. Seema Mishra is an amazing actress.

I am a RK fan. I still liked RK during the whole revenge track but that doesn't mean that I supported his actions. But I still wanted to see rishbala together. Why? Simply because tv is a way I can escape from stress and it was the only show I liked with actors I liked. When RK was "unwedding" madhu I was screaming and yelling at RK (my tv screen). So just because I liked RK, didn't necessarily mean that I supported his actions. Now when I think back, I wrote a lot of stuff that made it seem like I supported RK's actions but that might have been the desire to see my favorite onscreen couple back together and peer pressure of what other fans thought.
I agree that TV affects people and how they think. Negative content has negative influence in people's behavior. But I'm not one of those people. I can differentiate between right and wrong and watch shows just cuz I'm bored. Although I won't lie, I stopped watching meiej after a while because I had become so obsessed with this show and IF that I wasn't paying attention to priorities.

Originally posted by: likarsh

Let me point out the hypocrisy few mention: the hypocrisy of rooting for the love story of a "marriage" which was done through force, blackmail and humiliation. Logical plot development and characterization could only go two ways: the woman leaving, or with her forever taking the abuse dished out (here too, there are two options: either the woman has no choice, or she's stuck in a toxic, vicious cycle where she accepts all the abuse and humiliation through her own will).

Don't just start complaint of humiliation and abuse from unwedding onwards. Real wedding then would have been a romanticization of the humiliation and abuse the story--the half-marriage--started off with, and which progressed with the woman choosing her abusive patidev over her father, never giving her father a chance till patidev encouraged her to forgive.

If you want to complain about humiliation of woman, don't support such sick and disgusting love stories which start of with the woman not only being STRIPPED of her agency, but publicly humiliated, demeaned and abused.

Madhu was never allowed to move on, whether it be by the fans, the channel, AS, or whomever. Next course of action was to be consistent and true to the root of Rishbala. Hence further humiliation and abuse even after the real wedding.

@bold: exactly. that is where they could have saved the show. but it just went to hell man.
@bold: She really wasn't. I don't know if its only gender specific. She has to be a doormat so they can further the "romance" with superstar RK who will never give an inch. RK was pretty disgusting in the beginning, but in order to further the romance they thought everyone wanted they made him an irredeemable uck. there were a series of character decisions made for RK and Madhu in hopes to keep the romance alive, but by the end most people don't give a crap because the two of them became unbearable.

Edited: man i am full of typos.