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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's ironic that I wholeheartedly believe writers and producers should be arrogant. They should tell us the story they want to tell us regardless of what demands audiences make. I know two people who absolutely loved RK Madhu jodi while Sultan track was happening. Although they were completely glued to the screen, they always rooted for RK. But then their wishes came true. Sultan really was evil, RK was good by default. And they got bored and stopped watching.

People make demands all the time. Writers should not be bothered by the noise. But what to do when the noise is actively sought (via "feelers") in order to figure out what would get ratings? This will almost always mislead, because the average audience member doesn't know why they like what they like, they just do. The average TRP aunty doesn't sit on IF and analyse the inconsequential to death. That's for us young (youngish in my case lol) people who have time on our hands. And there's a difference between those who like the story and those who just want to see a particular person on screen.

Plus, opinion changes. What once appealed to us won't necessarily appeal always. What makes AS think that VD as RK will have the same impact he did during the beginning of Madhubala? What is there to say the impact was solely his doing? The very idea that Madhubala can draw the kind of ratings it did during its premier is preposterous. It's a show in its second season, it will always be in the shadow of its predecessor. The most they can hope to achieve is one more year of steady viewership.

This is a contradiction I know. That I feel writers should stick to their guns (and tell me the story they want to tell me), but when they start switching course, I get critical and stop watching. In my defence, I stop watching because I lose interest, not as a boycott. Also, I just hate NF's insistence on undoing work that they've done. They double-guess themselves all the bloody time. Over two years into the show and I can honestly say that there has yet to be one large arc. You know the one arc that spans at least the first year? The one that a show is premised on? The one after which PHs start throwing in illegitimate siblings, leaps, etc? Yeah, that arc never happened. We never got an inside look into Bollywood. We never even got the RK Madhu romance promised. We got a cheap imitation.

Do you remember that scene where RK made a bust of Madhu? He promised her pain but while creating the bust he only repeatedly cut himself? No follow through with that foreshadowing. Instead they crippled his character growth to deliver a fake marriage that felt fake even when it was real. Madhu 1.0 was just a non-entity. But then Sultan came, and everything just fell into place. Here was a chance to redeem the quality of the show and create something cult classic worthy. It bloody well worked in a way things hadn't since month 2 of this show. Madhu showed growth and she was relatable. But once again, nada. NF starts on a course, and but then does everything possible to take it back. It's a never-ending game of snakes and ladders.

What say all of you? I can't stop bashing, but I can encourage some good debate 😃👏

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well, I can't agree with you completely dear!!!
Yeah, It's true that what the production house promised to give us in the initial days of this show, they actually failed to do that... They completely lost the track...
But, firstly it's not at all in the hands of the writers to write what they want... The so called Noise definitely affects the show and the creatives. The PH will show only those things that can catch an eye and simultaneously they will direct the writers to write those sequences that appeal the viewers. Though, NF had done lots of mistakes like they made Rishbala married already so there was no scope left for making Madhu as heroine. But they actually never failed to show the passion and love between this couple no matter how creepy the track was.
I agree the major TRP aunties are not techno freaks but the PH can't actually neglect the virtual world viewers also. They matter to them too and it can be seen with VDs entry.
You said they never gave the romance of Rishbala that they had promised but I feel, they showed it to the fullest... In fact that romance was the sole reason for the success of MB1... That only romance and passionate love got the viewers attention and was loved by all that is why the creatives feared to part them away for long as the audience always wanted them together...
I disagree that Sultan track got this show back in form... In fact it affected it badly in trps... I don't want to go on the actor but this track wasn't needed at all... Instead they could have shown the rise of Madhubala as an actress thus going along with their promise...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's so gratifying to find like-minded people. I completely agree with you. I'm also starting to think that of the two, Abhinav Shukla doesn't have what it takes to helm the production of Madhubala. In my opinion, Saurabh Tewari, in his absence, has come across as the brains behind MEIEJ. Unfortunately that means there's no salvaging the show now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Agree totally! And admit am an hypocrite too.Loved RishaBala during Sultan track😆
You are right about the general audience, i can say that from that from my family's viewing experience of MB.
I got both my mom & sis hooked after MB's first prmo. I had seen both DD& VD in their previous shows I watched in parts, knew this would be a show to watch out for.

My sis quit after RK ditched Madhu at the Mandap. She said, "What rubbish.He was in love.They are just messing it".She never came back. I quit during the middle of Sultan track, for I didn't like what Mdahu was doing and am never a fan of triangles.
Mom hung in, mainly because she was too lazy to reprogram the channel and she quit after the miscarriage.She said," Poor Madhu.I can't watch this". Both Mom& Sis are TRP audience and not on IF.
I told them, "You should start watching it again.It's different now.All new". They didn't believe me and never got hooked again like how I was in the last few weeks. They said, "Nah. It'll be the same old stupid torture again." I wish i listened to them.

Moral of the story, TRP audience know the game.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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sultan track led to the shw s downfall... it was nt needed and the triangle and madhu s scenes with sultan were disastrous and unwanted
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Agree with u completely, 😊, my family quit the show the day RK kidnaped Madhu and she gave in to his wishes, my mom says if this is the treatment a women is given in the society? She couldn't take that rubbish, now again we started back viewing the show loved this typical family drama where we can shave a small laugh at certain circumstances but now the promo killed all their interest, but I'm still stuck to it by YT just for my DD.😭
My brother threatened to kill me if I again see that crap show.😆

Being a women It feels so humiliating to watch all that kind of women abuse.😡

The TRPs will teach NF a good lesson. I don't think many of the ppl who wanted VD back in the show r the ppl who watch MB online, trp audience don't have the same POV
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Evil-Defiance-

First its hypocrisy and not hypocracy. Sorry I can be a spelling freak.

Second I dont agree with u. Period.



It's alternative spelling for the same word. UK and Canadian spelling often differ from American spelling.

thanks for your well intentioned input 😃


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kashish_smile

Well, I can't agree with you completely dear!!!

Yeah, It's true that what the production house promised to give us in the initial days of this show, they actually failed to do that... They completely lost the track...
But, firstly it's not at all in the hands of the writers to write what they want... The so called Noise definitely affects the show and the creatives. The PH will show only those things that can catch an eye and simultaneously they will direct the writers to write those sequences that appeal the viewers. Though, NF had done lots of mistakes like they made Rishbala married already so there was no scope left for making Madhu as heroine. But they actually never failed to show the passion and love between this couple no matter how creepy the track was.
I agree the major TRP aunties are not techno freaks but the PH can't actually neglect the virtual world viewers also. They matter to them too and it can be seen with VDs entry.
You said they never gave the romance of Rishbala that they had promised but I feel, they showed it to the fullest... In fact that romance was the sole reason for the success of MB1... That only romance and passionate love got the viewers attention and was loved by all that is why the creatives feared to part them away for long as the audience always wanted them together...
I disagree that Sultan track got this show back in form... In fact it affected it badly in trps... I don't want to go on the actor but this track wasn't needed at all... Instead they could have shown the rise of Madhubala as an actress thus going along with their promise...



yeah, no I got to disagree with you there. The romance they showed us made Madhu and RK caricatures of themselves. As for trps dipping during Sultan track, I don't know. Some people say they did and others say they didn't. All I know is trps drop during the course of a show. people get bored and start watching something newer.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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well most of the shows loose the plot some time
but here the lead couple kept us glued to the screen
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Posted: 11 years ago
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well I partly agree with u...they never showed the bollywood life style ...initially it was exciting , but then they made a blunder by making RK to confess so soon...His bad boy image was appreciated by most of the trp audience , but they messed it up by bringing sultan track...it was not necessary to introduce this character that too a love triangle...it would have been nice if they showed sultan as a producer launching madhu as his movie's heroine ...but instead they showed him as a don with an irritating kid chanting madoo...😆...it would have been better if they showed no step brother track , it was very stupid & ridiculous...again they made Rishbala marriage to take place so soon...It would have been better if they showed RK vs madhu in film industry...their competition to get no 1 actor title...madhu as RK's toughest competitor , offcourse with the support of producer cum friend sultan...no love track between sultan & madhu...come on , a girl & a boy could be friends too...not necessary that always they had to show as love interests...They could have shown Madhu's struggle to maintain her popularity , her link ups with co actors & other producers or directors...her struggle to maintain professional life & personal life...her equation with trishna (after madhu becoming a star) who always wanted to be a heroine (but they forgot this character completely)...Then the reaction of RK due to madhu's popularity & her link ups...Instead of showing ridiculous crazy meera , RK's jail track , sultan's lusting over his bhabhi , they could have shown RK's background story ( how he became a star , his initial days with dipali , dipali dumping RK & then marrying his brother , how RK met bittuji & became close to each other , & how sweet & innocent Rishabh kundra became ruthless & cunning RK...)...Again they could have shown RK;s realization & marriage of Rishbala at the climax of the show instead of bringing some stupid krk track & pabo track...

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