Episode 447 Discussion: 9th December 2013 - Page 5

Originally posted by: cardio21

@Charu.. I always understood the undercurrents of RK's personality but still some things still leave me bewildered.. How can RK who wanted to kill the baby is crying like a hormonal pig. Suddenly, he lost his bachcha, when we know he wanted to kill the child like <5 days ago..

I never supported madhu or her actions.. But can't help feeling sorry for a girl who is constantly being humiliated by the love of her life. Her husband makes her a laughing stock in front of te women who hate her existence. She is constantly being accused of killing her baby.. Every time she tries to fake a smile, she is moved to tears..

I don't expect RK to shower love on madhu, but she deserves some human treatment.. I understand she is a dumb woman, but she is human too no matter how much God complex she suffers from.

RK who hated his mom because she kinda picked her family over her son, and never put up a fight for her son..

But madhu is trying to do whatever she can to make him happy, only to meet with taunts, and insults hurled at her.

And no matter how mad one is at his spouse, a man like RK would not cross a line.. Why can't he buy a guy friend with his new found money and bond with him for drinks.. Why a woman?

I have already mentioned that I am all for girl guy friendship, but after wedding finding solace in an opposite sex person can border to cheating anytime.. So why play with fire??

Originally posted by: subashni

@Charu. As you wrote I expected this behavior from R.K post Sultan fiasco. because like Radha Madhu decided what is good for R.K. So both were in the same level .But he understood madhu. which I felt a clunk. CV's conveniently mould their larger than life character to suit the track.But still I sympathize with Madhu. she fell madly in love with R.K. Maybe it is her destiny her so called nakshatra dosha😆

Originally posted by: _charu_

it's the opposite with me Shruti...I find his bacha jaap unreasonable while in all other cases, he's quite normal...why cry over a dead foetus? he may be shocked but it's not that he's impotent or Madhu cannot carry a baby in the future...miscarriages are very normal and they may not have any particular reason..but this has become a mental roadblock for him so he won't be satisfied till he's convinced tht Madhu was not careless with the baby but his own family was trying to harm them.

Madhu was not having papayas, the papaya talk was ridiculous..

he was not humiliating her on the breakfast table, she pushed him to the edge..she should not be too stubborn or pushy with him, he will snap at her..any disturbed person will...the best option for them wud have been to stay away from each other for a while..he wud have come back running to her and she wud have got a timeout..

Originally posted by: arshisfan

Nice reviews, made me consider many others things in the way I see Rk

Actually when I watched the episode I was quite confused with what Rk really feels, his jaap about the baby was unconvincing because unfortunately they never showed that he really cares for the baby, so when he said how can I forget that I lost my child with that experssion, I just couldn't connect to him, I know they showed the painting of the child and they showed that he was sad looking at the crib but there was a never a good build up for his attachment to the baby, maybe if after that fire stunt of Madhu and saving her, he immediately changed his stance about the baby and felt that he doesn't want to lose Madhu and the baby now that he saw them in danger and from then they made us see his growing bonding to the baby, maybe I would have been able to connect to that, so this was an irritating thing for me

The rest I was confused, is it that he is afraid of losing Madhu?, or that he thinks that he already lost her so there is no use of fighting? or is it that she took his place, when he said there was only one star in the mansion ?!!
And what's about him being down and looking at her, damit he is still a superstar and a superproducer too, he still gets offers and he can even try to producer and act a hero centric film with some nice and impactful story that can show his immense talent once again, I mean how can he feel being a loser without even a flop movie?!!! I know he wasn't highlighted in that last movie, but he went through a lot as he was about to lose his life and after that the paralysis so how can he feel that he failed when the conditions and the roles played weren't equal between him and Madhu?!!!! I mean I would have undertood him if the film was a couple centric or hero centric and Madhu stole the lights but here he wasn't even physically fit add to that the fact that the film was heroine centric and he couldn't be present in the last 40% of the movie, so why would he make comparisons between himself and Madhu, it's ridiculous!!!

Is what others said made him really lose his self-confidence?!!!!

He always said that nobody and nothing can take Madhu away from him and that he will always fight then what"s this?!!! is it because now his battle is not against a man(sultan) but against the industry, its glamour and madhu's fans too?!!! or is it because his fight is with Madhu herself who might get attracted -as per his experience- to that world ?!!! but even if it's the case we know he never listened to Madhu and he brought her to his house and tried every possible way to get her back in his life. But maybe as many of you said, he doesn't consider her anymore the simple girl he loved for whom he was the superstar, but he maybe considers her as a diva loved and followed by many, and I still remember in his psycho mode he told her that nobody has the right to love her or dream about her!!! now millions do!!!!

Anyway I'm still confused, I hope Rk clarifies more about his feelings in the future, but I would love if this is just another layer of Rk
So now I stick to this : Rk ko samajhna muskhil hi nahi, Namumkin hai!!!!

Originally posted by: Poluk

Agreed that MB is showing zero female instinct, in fact any married woman would know that this is not the way to handle a husband and that too one going through a bad phase in life.

But then when has MB been shown sensitive - she is sensitive only to the likes of aryan and sultan. She even bull dozed her own sister's feelings or even Radha and RK's. That is why I feel she deserves what she is getting in the form of loss of love of her husband.

But humiliating your wife in public is not ok.

Emotional disconnect happening due to her insensitivity has to be slow and over a period of time - not like this just found a special friend and started lying for her - this is looking like adultery

And regards the baby, the loss hurts - big time, especially when you feel that the loss is not due to God's will but carelessness on the part of the one supposed to protect and cherish it.

And RK has made the baby as a front or focus of all the pain he is currently sufferring be it due to MB or his own luck also.

It is a fatal combo - a jealous frustrated husband and a foolish wife.

Originally posted by: _charu_

firstly Shruti, she is not his friend yet...n he is not looking for a shoulder to cry, he is running away from his biwi and Bittuji bec. they are after his life...as of now he doesn't even know tht this is the same girl who was hospitalized (i'm just assuming based on the spoilers) so he is not getting impressed with Riya, he is finding the thoughts in the diary to be motivational ...if and when he commits adultery , we will see..

he didn't humiliate her, nor did he intend to..he told her 10 times tht he will not eat, yet she was insisting..in this state, if she will pressurize him, he will snap at her..it's very normal...neither do they care for the audience while doing PDA nor yelling at each other...their gharwale do not exist for them..of course it is wrong in normal circumstances but in MB it has always been like this

of course it's an emotional blow ..they lost their baby n he thinks it happened bec. of Madhu but ethically he lost the right to tell her anything (even if she aborted the baby) bec. he himself wanted to see the baby dead for his own reasons...at tht time when he showed no bonding , why is he doing now? he changed his mind but he never showed any concern for the baby or the baby's mother...I wonder why Madhu didn't remind him of tht kurbaan hua dance, wasn't tht stressful for Madhu and not right for the baby? this baby talk should end now bec. both Madhu and RK acted like crazy parents and now blaming each other, it's so foolish...

Shruti , i know you were against the heroine track and didn't want RK's downfall..ur prediction was correct...ab i will not negate any of you coz CV's will take up a sadist route everytime..what they're showing now is the fallout of the heroine track...and this Riya angle will again end up in a disaster...but, honestly, now i dun care...i dun think too much about it n watch every epi. with a fresh perspective..