Episode 442 Discussion: 2nd December 2013

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Episode 442 Discussion: 2nd December 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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There are several other social welfare sites that are there to discuss the genuine issues. If for some reason, it is felt that social concerns have to be addressed and ethical and moral responsibility needs to be exercised for watching entertainment, then; certainly the forum is an open place to create separate ATs and build up that kind of propaganda.

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Today's LU from Armu4eva
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3832847/2nd-december-written-update-madhubala


Note:
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Posted: 11 years ago
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No reviews as yet? I read the write-up, no review from me today since I'm going to pass on today's episode (just thought I'd share that piece of information 😃)
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So basically its a saazish of Dipali , insecurity of RK and helplessness of Madhu that made up the episode.

I liked the part when RK got the cradle and they were calling each other Mummy and Daddy 😆

In their fight...RK's words prove he is more concerned about the glamour world snatching his Madhu away from him. Since he cannot fight with the entire industry, he is fighting with her.
Madhu's ambiguous answers to Steveji are making him doubt her even more.

No one seems to be totally in the wrong here. RK is a victim of his insecurity and possessiveness while Madhu is too stressed to do anything about it.

I wanted a MC. But still the precap made me feel sad
Bye bye Baby Blip
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I like the part where RK bring cradle for the baby,it was nice.No one is wrong in their part but Madhu should have more clear in front of the producer rather than giving the excuse of taking a break she should have clearly told him no infront of RK than i think RK should have less insecurity and before going to meet the producer she should have inform RK since she knows RK would be very angry if he comes to know about it.And Mr RK try to control your anger,anger is not the only solution of all problems,Last but the not least Bittuji what's your problem see ur one action bring such a chaos into your chief's and Bhabhiji life .
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I really pity Rk and Madhu, not only enemies make them have problems even their friends and wellwishers indirectly contribute to their misery, here I think both were wrong, Madhu for not being clear in front of others about her stance and Rk for not trusting her enough, I know she somehow with her non clear stance in front of others made him mistrust her, but she is his love he should trust her and not give attention to what others say, she explained the whole situation and told him that it was a misunderstanding but his insecurity has been triggered once again, and now that she will have a misccariage at this exact time, he will hold her responsable, now if the miscarriage is just an accident ,I mean Madhu didn't drink something the witches gave her, or gave Radha to give her, then Rk is also responsible because he yelled at her and she had a lot of stress, he kind of insinuated that if a producer comes with 5crores she can even abort the child, I can't help but thinking even if I don't believe in superstitions, that he kind of jinxed his child with his thoughts and now he will lose it along with Madhu


By the way I felt his answer was quite normal when he told the producer that Madhu is pregnant, I felt he was sincere, I mean Steve was insisting so he told him that, he neither intended to break the promess nor had he any bad intentions, I feel in that scene it was rather Madhu's expressions and reactions which were confusing

A last musing, I'll miss baby blip I really wanted to see their bonding with that baby, how they will be as parents with a lot of funny situations, I also can't help thinking that the baby who survived an almost asphyxiation with CO1, a lot of running, pushing and pulling during the dance, couldn't survive some harsh words of his dad, maybe here Madhu felt really bad even more than in the party because she thinks Rk is mistrusting her and can't bear that as she care about what Rk thinks of her because he is the one she cares for most in the world, in the party he apologised whitin few minutes, here it seems he went out driving in rains in his anger, so that took a lot of time and her stress went growing. A lot of tears, misunderstandings are coming during this week, I just want it to be fast paced, I want the worst to happen quickely so that we can watch what happens after I don't have a lot of patience to sit through all this if it takes a lot of time
Edited by arshisfan - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: river123

No reviews as yet? I read the write-up, no review from me today since I'm going to pass on today's episode (just thought I'd share that piece of information 😃)



You started skipping episodes, have you started your de-addiction process!!!!😲😆
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Originally posted by: arshisfan


You started skipping episodes, have you started your de-addiction process!!!!😲😆


No, no de-addiction at all - I'll be there till the bitter end 😆. Somehow the sadness associated with the upcoming MC, the never-ending machinations without any respite, and what seems to be the inevitable separation is not what I want to watch right now. Maybe in a couple of days - preferably when Madhu is back at the chawl.😃

ETA: Question - from the writeup it seemed like Bittuji played a big role in getting Madhu to the producers office, which I found somewhat strange. That he went behind RK's back to do it. Is he transferring professional allegiance to Madhu?
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Random thought, you know when Deepali said I have to take advantage of the situation and went to talk to that producer, I thought maybe she went to convince him to take her as the lead actress in his film but the stupid woman instead of using her intelligence and shredness to convince the produce of that, she just went to create problems between RM!!

Now I'll start to believe that Deepali loves RK, this time she prefered to try to separate him from his wife than trying to get this golden opportunity and become a heroine herself🤣
Edited by arshisfan - 11 years ago
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Today's episode was not as painful as I thought it would be. Not sure is it because

a. VD and DD not in the same frame so impact lost
b. RK's speech was toned down from his usual taunting insulting one
c. Maybe I have become numb to this hence did not feel any pain.😕

From Bittuji's pov - I think he is thinking just like a assistant. He saw an opportunity and is persuing it. He is not Madhu's official assistant and no one expects him to do anything for Madhu professionally. However it is ingrained in him to seek out these opportunities and that is what he is doing. He is not thinking about she is pregnant, RK will be mad or any such thing. He sees a business opportunity and wants to take it. He did not have time to cajole RK about it. Maybe he thought it is better to ask forgiveness than to seek permission?

Dipali has truly lost it. This was indeed a golden opportunity for her to tut her own horn but she is so absorbed in dusron ka ghar ujadana ki she did not realize she could may hay in this case. RM ka sukh chaain destroy karne ki haste mein she lost this chance to do good for herself.

What I don't understand is, why did Madhu not blast Bittuji for putting her into this awkward position of meeting the producer again. She should have been livid but her reaction was anything but. Bittuji tries to impress upon her, Steve's importance but I will attribute this to her characteristics of not outright insulting people (RK would have been livid had he been put in this position and I don't think Bittuji would have even dared to do so).

There is nothing wrong is feeling appreciated for the work Madhu has done. If she is getting attention from the chawl people who she knows almost all her life, nothing wrong in boasting about it. Its not like they are offering her a movie as result of it. She can feel happy in this case. The person who sold herself for 40 lakhs for her father, who opted to leave everything to go with RK (before unwedding),will she be swayed by money? RK's reasoning about Madhu will do anything if lure of money is great, is hollow. I felt he said that but he himself did not believe it and that is why this accusation did not come out strong (at least to me). He just needed a reason to express his displeasure yet again and this script plus cheque provided it to him.
There is a way to talk to your spouse. Not every conversation have to be accusatory or needing justification. RK lacks that diplomacy with Madhu totally. Trying to maneuver it with him in control would have done wonders in this case.

I absolutely agree that when that producer had come home, since Madhu's stance is not to tell anyone, she falters while talking to him but she could have said "Thank you but I just want to be known as RK's wife". It is producer's job to keep pestering to a newly successful actress trying to cash in on her new found fame but Madhu did not know how to deal with him firmly and hence RK needed to jump in and put a stop to that spectacle.
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Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

RK's reasoning about Madhu will do anything if lure of money is great, is hollow. . He just needed a reason to express his displeasure yet again and this script plus cheque provided it to him.




I agree actually on the fact that Rk should have known by now that Madhu is not a materialistic person, but maybe in his anger and due to the huge amount of money offered to madhu 2crores (while he was negociating to get 1crore in a film which some producer offered him) he might have lost it then, but what would have been logical is not talking about money and the 5crores, but rather insisting the way his conversation began on the fact that she likes limelight and being loved and appreciated by audience, so she might have thought about doing the film.

Also the fact that he insinuated that she isn't really interested in the baby when she gets offers is just a build up for the misunderstanding post miscarriage

His reaction seeing the skript and especially the cheque was normal for me, but mistrusting her after she explained the situation was wrong!




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