Episode 413 Discussion: 26th Oct 2013 - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't know What exactly Everyone wants ? When RK is lovey Dovey They say He is Puppy of Madhu and BLAH BLAH . Now When he is Our RK with whom We fall for from Starting and who was the REAL CHARM of the Show ..Then Now they are saying He is Selfish and thinking about only his movie . COMEON!! Right Now He is in that Situation that HE HAVE TO think about his MOVIE First .After then Every other thing will come . Else He will be completely Finished! Everything of him is on Stake Right now , And He will not think about his Movie NOW Then it will be Too Late . And this He is not doing only for him but for Him & Madhu and For his family . So If For Time Being according to the Current Requirement He wants Madhu to forget everything and Only Focus on his Movie then How cum he is Selfish ? And What is MEAN in that ?? 😕 Why people are Forgetting that It's Not just A SINGLE MOVIE For RK , Had it been the Case and If RK was not been banned , I am very sure RK wouldn't have wanted Madhu to go against her wishes of becoming Actress and forgetting her Personal life . But Now It is not only a Movie for him but It is ONE THING on which Not only His Life But His BIWI's His Family's Life too is depended . So RK doesn't have any choice But to get Overboard with this Movie thing.
Edited by moniluvskinshuk - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Today I felt like I was watching the beginning of the unraveling of RK, and the foreboding of a RM separation at some point (temporary of course, after all, this is RM we are talking about.)

Found it hard to empathize with RK today. True, his wife pulled a fast one on him, one that could have caused tremendous financial losses. But to humiliate her in public to make his point was uncool. And then being unrepentant, and refusing to find a middle ground with Madhu was frustrating to watch. All I can say is, the man is losing it.

The wife is no less. Sticking hard to her stance of "I will do this vrat, or die in the attempt." Having said that, although at some stage her wanting to keep the vrat smacked of defiance, remember, this is the same woman who let her feet be bitten by those rats just so that she could complete her puja.
  • Say it isn't so Madhu. Say you didn't break your vrat. Radhaji is all shocked 🤢. So the sargi thing was just her being passive-aggressive. She truly expected Madhu to brave all odds, and keep the fast. Way to go, Radhaji!🤢
  • Couldn't understand Madhu's teary-eyed refusal to say anything. Or maybe she was just too shocked that her husband was being a cur of the worst order.
  • Back at the studio, Madhu decides on a ploy to trick RK into breaking her fast. She enlists a willing MC to help her. And so Karan breaks Anamika's fast.
  • Random thought - kind of liked their squabble, as the scene was being shot, and MC sarcastically bringing them in line.
  • I didn't care for MC telling Madhu that RK wasn't worth it. Presumptuous, and way out of line. Good thing Madhu gave him that glare.
  • So RK is losing it - accusing Madhu of keeping an account, and using the vrat breaking as a way to even scores.
  • Worse, shutting off baahon ke darmiyaan in the car. 😡
  • And then finally, disparaging Madhu's statement of her identity being tied to him, as that of his wife. This is going to come back and bite him.
All in all, this KC was horrible as far as i am concerned, am looking to Diwali. Although as I said at the beginning, am not optimistic. Looks like there will be fireworks of a different variety.

And finally, somehow, this doesn't feel like a particularly TRP enhancing track to me.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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From the written updates...
highly disappointed by the episode..
RK.. no matter what his personal situation is, he has no right to insult his wife (who he claims to love more than himself )🤢 in front of all and sundry. there is way to put one's point. I agree with MADHU, that the equation between 2 people who love each other is not about 'hisaab'. he is going overboard with my movie crap.. if he cares for Madhu, why he cant give her a stupid pleasure of opening her fast?
Madhu.. if she was going to be normal with him, showinh him the mehndi and then being so lovey dovey.. what was the point of not talking when RK wanted to talk it out. I dont see the glimpse of a loving wife in all this but a ritual loving pig headed woman was all I saw in this track..
If i want my husband to fulfill a ritual, I would like him to do it with a smile. and its not that she cant make RK do things for her..
MC.. he had no right to talk about RK after he chided him for madhu's unprofessional attitude..
RJ.. she was one of the characters I liked.. but today I hate her as much as I hate Pads..
From TRP perspective, this KC which is usually a happy occasion left a bad taste in everybody's mouth..
For nonTRP people, it was an insult to our sensibilties.. Both madhu n RK sounded stupid and foolish..
CVs.. they give us good scenes and gripping tracks but they cant keep the charm on.. last thursday onwards, it was promising but this KC track was a disaster. After last year's KC, RK couldnt have kept this retarded stanceabout KC.. this is super clunky.. RK who was keeping madhu above his ego suddenly wanted a hisaab.. bullcrap!!.
I am sorry but the upcoming track whatever it is, if based on the last 2 episodes with sudden mutation in 2 crazily in love with each other couple, is going to be a disaster.
Sorry for the rant, but CVs have lost it completely. the TRPs got better after they show RK supporting Madhu promo. this is what audience likes..
not devdas lovesick RK not this publicly humiliating man in the name of a husband.. this was way beyond our favorite kameena RK.. CVs cant keep a balance
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic


Red - RK is adamant because Madhu is showing him again and again that she doesn't care two hoots for his priorities. He has been patient enough with her (not counting the KC humiliation) but she has been like a solid wall with no eyes or ears. She is refusing to register anything he is saying despite him repeating it many times.

There are many times in life when you have to keep your own interests aside for your loved ones. RK is going through the worst phase of his career right now and his whole existence is at stake. He is not wrong if he expects his wife to understand the gravity of the situation and change her priorities for just a few months. Problem is that Madhu is telling him outright that her priorities will not change. What she is telling him effectively is that "I have already done you a huge favour by working in your film, now don't expect more". She will never say these words but her actions are clearly saying so. She is not involved with the film at all, she is just doing her job and longing to go home. There is no feeling of standing shoulder-to-shoulder with RK in getting the film made well.

It is a pity because she has again lost the advantage she gained in the eyes of the audience by becoming RK's heroine against her will.

If this KC drama was aimed at earning brownie points for Madhu with the TRP audience, it is going to fail big time. Any woman from the TRP audience will happily give up KC if her husband needs her to stand by him in a bad phase of his career instead.

And a non-TRP audience like me is getting frustrated with the repetitive foolishness. Now I just want this stupid KC to end so that we can move on to (hopefully) a saner track.



couldn't say it better CR...but I think it's not abt the wifey duties or heroine or RK acting selfish with her for his film...it's just that he doesn't believe in KC at all and when Madhu itna bhi nahi kar sakti uske liye ke she doesn't prioritize KC over his wish, toh she will def. not be willing to give her 100% to the movie and continue giving importance to the ghar , pooja etc. etc...and he's developing this attitude bec. Madhu is bluntly telling him that she knows her responsibilities well and she can handle it all...this is irking him more bec. jhooth hi sahi, usko khush karne ke liye hi sahi, she's not agreeing to him or understand what he's trying to tell her, instead , oppose him...

for the first time today I felt RK was not given proper dialogues...or he was acting unreasonable, bec. he had no valid reason to act the way he did...i mean it's so foolish to think that she changed the scene to get even with him 😆 or may be it wasn't...again, for personal reasons, she got the script changed...I'd say "just go back to ur bedroom & then talk..it was a long day." !
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The episode was alright.

I actually feel my mind is now adapted to find sense in nonsense that I can actually somehow understand RishBala's perspectives. They both are at fault yet I still think whatever they are doing is quite understandable. It may not be justifiable but it is still understandable. Now, I may be really really biased because of two reason, first being the fact that I am a total sucker for grey and flawed characters and the second being that I love these two crazies to bits.. 😛😆

Anyways.. enough with my monologue.. coming to point now. I think both of our crazies took it upon themselves to prove themselves right once and for all.. but it didn't quite work out..

About RK.. I feel our crazy number 1 is going through a lot actually. The honeymoon period is over for him (it does not mean that he doesn't love Madhu.. heck! Neither RK nor Madhu have to prove their love again and again! They love each other immensely. Period!!) and dark clouds are looming over his head. He has been banned. His ego, money and everything is at stake. He is acting as a professional and as our RK is a passionate guy who tends to consume himself with his passion, his whole mind is occupied with the thoughts of his movie only. On the other hand, he has this dream of launching Madhu as his heroine in the most perfect way ever since he saw the potential in her and Madhu is not letting him do that and he is just frustrated because she is not giving it her whole. He has been very patient with her for quite long actually but now he has snapped and actually I don't blame him.

I know he humiliated her and all and he was wrong but I still think it is understandable, given the fact that the man was pissed and well, we all know RK is not the most perfect guy when he is pissed off. The man nursed injured feet of his wife/heroine (after a wasted day at shoot) the other day and he had to assume (as she did not tell him anything specifically) that it was because of emotional pressure from his family and because of some pooja. He did what he could do he warned his family members and asked them not to make his wife do any such thing. But just a couple of days later his wife is adamant to fast for him. I mean he is fighting with his family for her and here she herself is not listening to him so much so that she is willing to go to any lengths to keep the fast and risking her health and her commitments at the very same time and for whom? So, he snapped. I somehow also think he let it out about Madhu breaking her fast so his family will stop expecting Madhu to be the perfect Bahu and pressurizing her emotionally once and for all.

Now coming to our crazy number 2. 😆 I can actually see she has developed into a true grey character. Heck.. I don't even think CVs want her to be mahaan.. I think they are in process of making her grey (Please let it be true .. please CVs!!) I will stick to what I said in Charu's post, and as RK said (lately Rk has been repeating whatever I say 😆), It was not just about fulfilling anyone's expectations. It was very much about proving herself. It was about proving that she is capable of fulfilling both hers and RK's dreams simultaneously. It was also about proving to RK that he is wrong in saying that she can't be his heroine and his wife at the same time. Also, I think she kept the fast even when RK asked her not to because to her being a heroine for his husband may not be the most ideal duty a wife can do.. it's just a bonus or an over time duty.. the real duty is still KC and everything a typical wife does for her husband. And as RK and she herself said.. she is not willing to set her priorities straight.. why? Because she has a lot of confidence in her that she can pull it all off. But that will change. That will definitely change.


By the way.. I am in hating-MC-mode at this moment. How dare he talk about my RK this way!!! I don't care if he was joking.. it was not a very good joke! 😡 Leela want to go on a bashing spree? I am game! 😈
Edited by Valar.Morghulis - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Maria, about Mehul, I pre-empted you.😆
Pabho doesn't worry me at all.
But Radha and Mehul scare me witless for the sheer corrosive damage they can get done.
Radha at least loves RK though she is a disastrous mother.
Mehul can be expected to do harm and never even come down off his 'the great Mehul Chopra' delusion to acknowledge it.🤢

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21

After last year's KC, RK couldnt have kept this retarded stanceabout KC.. this is super clunky..


Kashish, lets not discuss that..RK is repulsive towards this festival bec. of the reasons he told Madhu...and we all know WHY he came there to break her fast and later, made her feel good by celebrating it again in the studio...anyday, I prefer this yr KC without any pretenses or show off...a big relief tht Madhu played a trick on him to break her fast, otherwise if she fainted this yr, RK ke dimag ka short circuit hona pucca tha 😆


and Hats off to her for keeping this idiotic attitude, after staying hungry the whole day, she was gleefully remembering last yr KC and bahon ke darmiyan...she was HAPPY that she cud complete her fast...I know what normal (or abnormal) humans do in such situations..2-3 yrs back, my hubby was late on the day of KC and I didn't talk to him and not break my fast until the next morning ..and this yr, ah ! I didn't like it tht he came before time..bec. it was 8.35 ..so i asked him to wait till 9...I was literally frustrated tht moon had to be seen after 8.30 that day..

ETA in normal circumstances I can say that a woman will be all set to MURDER her husband if he doesn't acknowledge her efforts and here, RK took the liberty of humiliating her and telling everyone tht she broke her fast ..khi khi 🤣


Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Maria, about Mehul, I pre-empted you.😆
Pabho doesn't worry me at all.
But Radha and Mehul scare me witless for the sheer corrosive damage they can get done.
Radha at least loves RK though she is a disastrous mother.
Mehul can be expected to do harm and never even come down off his 'the great Mehul Chopra' delusion to acknowledge it.🤢


👍🏼 i'll join u guys
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Posted: 11 years ago
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See Charu? It's happening again! We are on the verge of forgiving RK once again despite him publicly humiliating Madhu today.

Are we forgiving him because he is so gorgeous? No. Madhu is being so unreasonable and bratty, that we are feeling sorry for him!

We all wanted RK's R&R when he did the unwedding. But then Madhu brought home a gangster and we all forgot RK's sins in face of Madhu's idiocy.

Do the CVs not understand that a show will never run as long as its lead heroine is shown as an exceptionally foolish woman?

This week's episodes were very good till Thursday but Friday saw the return of the main-paagal-hoon Madhu and I can bet the TRPs gonna start falling again 👎🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Maria, about Mehul, I pre-empted you.😆
Pabho doesn't worry me at all.
But Radha and Mehul scare me witless for the sheer corrosive damage they can get done.
Radha at least loves RK though she is a disastrous mother.
Mehul can be expected to do harm and never even come down off his 'the great Mehul Chopra' delusion to acknowledge it.🤢


I know.. Sorry..
Had to learn it at my own time.. This man can easily create problems for RishBala.. he acts differently in front of RK and becomes someone entirely different in front of Madhu. 😲😡

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