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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: leelaa9



What's the point of ups and downs if only the diehards will watch the resultant story, and ensure only mediocre TRP?


thanks for the compliment ! but I don't think the CV's, sponsers or the channel are happy with the mediocre TRPs and happy with the fact that diehards are watching their BS and hence therez no need to improve...it's their job...when their story & serial will not appeal to the mass audience, they will stop airing it ! they may not be having ANY idea as to what is clicking with the audience and what is not clicking...we can't help it, given their limited knowledge of serial making... the real fans of MB can keep sending them the feedbacks & give them the ideas which will send the TRPs sky rocketing...😊
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: _charu_


thanks for the compliment ! but I don't think the CV's, sponsers or the channel are happy with the mediocre TRPs and happy with the fact that diehards are watching their BS and hence therez no need to improve...it's their job...when their story & serial will not appeal to the mass audience, they will stop airing it ! they may not be having ANY idea as to what is clicking with the audience and what is not clicking...we can't help it, given their limited knowledge of serial making... the real fans of MB can keep sending them the feedbacks & give them the ideas which will send the TRPs sky rocketing...😊


What compliment?😕 Knowing we need a majority's support to keep a track from drowning is not a happy thing.
Charu, I'm praying your optimism is proven right and the track decisonmakers act less experimentally - it would be wonderful if that happens.😳
The upset is at the CVs/channel's seven months of proven record of ignoring TRP-evidence and pushing what they want to (with superficial changes and the main concerns unrectified and constant) for month after month despite clear evidence that it's not getting enough massive viewership.
This is a situation in which being proven wrong about the bad expectations from the track's deciders would be frigging awesome.😳

Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Leela, what I'm trying was ke if they're incapable, incompetent, then it's of no use even suggesting them...they lost the grip of the story? we should just wait for it to end, what else can i say?
compliment was ke diehard fans are liking the show which is giving them the impression that they can continue showing what they are showing and it's being liked. ..the truth is that they don't care about us, over views, our feedback..i'm not Brahmaji predicting their TRPs😆nothing will change with my optimism or anybody elses pessimism..my only connect with the show is that I watch it, I discuss it, I criticize it, I love it..i'm very transparent with my views..this is will never change..if i'm liking it i'll say it if not, i'll say it..yes, i dun want it to end soon..that doesn't mean i'm purposely praising their BS ...i'm genuinely liking it..
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
From the MEIEJ TRP Thread #4.
Credit to Aakash for daily breakdown, and Meenu for synopses.

Madhubala: 14th to 19th Oct 2013:
TVT 4230 (4157 the previous week) - TRP 2.1.

Week 42 TRP Breakdown Madhubala

Saturday, 12th Oct - Last scene is RK gives Madhu a romantic surprise. Precap:
RK and Madhu date continues from the Saturday last scene, RK teases Madhu by pretending there's a mouse and gives Madhu a fright. Madhu tells him next time he does such a thing, she'll get a bunch of mice for him. Pabho fumes, says that Rishabh saved Madhu this time but next time no one will save Madhu.
1.9 - Monday, 14th Oct - RM romantic diet dinner. Madhu gets a midnight snack, only to be startled by Pabho who sends her off to a distant temple at the crack of dawn. Pabho pushes Radha around, and claims ignorance to RK on where Madhu is. RK finds Madhu's letter, sweet moment. Precap: Poor Madhu trudging up the hill to complete nivaaran.
2.0 - Tuesday, 15th Oct
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RM surrounded by deceit, plotting and conniving. RK and Pabho at breakfast, Pabho anxious to go to the temple to watch Madhu's defeat first-hand. Amar Behl and Kukku get an electrician to sabotage the electrical system at Sitara Studio. Evil duos exultant that their plan is working. Madhu asks for blessing from the Lord in makeshift temple. RK confronts the saboteur, only to be distracted by Simmy and her mother. Precap: Mice biting praying Madhu's feet; juxtaposed against shot of short circuit in the studio (with RK's poster in the background.)
2.1 - Wednesday, 16th Oct
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Evil duo of Dips and Pabho watch Madhu being bitten by mice but continuing her prayers regardless. Fire starts at studio. RK serendipitously sees the fire raging. Dashing hero saves the day. Disaster averted. RK stopped from drinking (to douse anger by doubts raised by insurance folks) by MC. Dance rehearsals start. Madhu hobbles in. Both RM try to spare each other pain, and hide their respective disasters from each other. Precap: Madhu asks a horrified Roma not to tell RK about her injured feet.
2.3 - Thursday, 17th Oct
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Madhu shows up for the dance sequence shoot despite wounded feet. RK notices and calls for packup, lovingly takes her home. Pabho displays concern for RK (due to fire at studio) and ignores Madhu. Radha shows love and concern for Madhu, and later meekly confronts Pabho who meanly rubs it in to Radha that RK doesn't call her mother. RK lovingly tends to Madhu's wounds. Lovely new song introduced. RK figures out that Madhu is doing the temple duty at Pabho's behest. Precap: RK lays down the law, no extra work or puja stuff for Madhu, includes Pabho in the 'request'.
2.5 - Friday, 18th Oct -
RK takes matters into his own hands the next day. He reads the riot act to Bhatia family, saying Madhu is to be excused from house and puja duty, includes Pabho in the "request." Pabho is sugary sweet with Madhu. Madhu as Anamika slaps Karan aka RK, for real. RK plays at being miffed, the two make-up in the makeup room, romantic scene where the two get close. Precap: Amar Behl and Kukku looking for a potential accomplice in RK's crew. Simmy's mother spikes Madhu's coffee.
2.4 - Saturday, 19th Oct - Episode set primarily in the studio, and focused on the shoot. Karan-Anamika sensual sequence, Madhu is uncomfortable with onlookers watching intimate scene being shot. She hesitates and flounders multiple times. RK the consummate professional tries to put her at ease. MC yells at Madhu, and calls pack-up in frustration. Simmy's mother drinks the coffee. Precap: Pabho plans to recruit Radha to destroy the Radha-Madhu mother-daughter relationship and break Madhu.
Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I think they do not want to go to the higher TRP bracket. They are fine with a steady TRP of 2.2 - 2.3.
It is understandable because most of the other shows with the higher bracket, I think, has an ensemble cast or fit into a particular genre.
Where as MB is trying to break that and not being type casted. It does not have a big ensemble, does not fit into a particular genre, banks completely on the leads and the others in the show look like puppets who are mostly in the sidelines or mercilessly discarded.
So with such a tall order, they do not want to have high TRP's, which will just make the viewers have unreasonable expectations, IMO.
The viewers can show distaste or not like a track but cannot expect the makers to change the story or track for the viewers. In that way, I completely understand what GH or ST say.
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Posted: 11 years ago
MEIEJ new tagline:-

'RK ki film ke doran Madhubala se hua anjaane mein ek hadsa.'

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vkk2429

I think they do not want to go to the higher TRP bracket. They are fine with a steady TRP of 2.2 - 2.3.
It is understandable because most of the other shows with the higher bracket, I think, has an ensemble cast or fit into a particular genre.
Where as MB is trying to break that and not being type casted. It does not have a big ensemble, does not fit into a particular genre, banks completely on the leads and the others in the show look like puppets who are mostly in the sidelines or mercilessly discarded.
So with such a tall order, they do not want to have high TRP's, which will just make the viewers have unreasonable expectations, IMO.
The viewers can show distaste or not like a track but cannot expect the makers to change the story or track for the viewers. In that way, I completely understand what GH or ST say.


Thank you Kritika for writing this here 🤗 agree completely..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vkk2429

I think they do not want to go to the higher TRP bracket. They are fine with a steady TRP of 2.2 - 2.3.
It is understandable because most of the other shows with the higher bracket, I think, has an ensemble cast or fit into a particular genre.
Where as MB is trying to break that and not being type casted. It does not have a big ensemble, does not fit into a particular genre, banks completely on the leads and the others in the show look like puppets who are mostly in the sidelines or mercilessly discarded.
So with such a tall order, they do not want to have high TRP's, which will just make the viewers have unreasonable expectations, IMO.
The viewers can show distaste or not like a track but cannot expect the makers to change the story or track for the viewers. In that way, I completely understand what GH or ST say.


Kritika, the MEIEJ lead cast pay has had a payhike some months back to stick with the series for longer. And the series is already high-budget.
If TRP does not become much higher than the current one, the series will be making a loss on regular basis.
Channel can want a series to close down. That's the only result out of highly paid actors in a high-budget series and that series not raking in great TRP.

And majority-audience viewers showing disinterest for a track via not-great TRP ensures that either the track changes superficially or wholly, or sponsors start reconsidering the monetary worth they should pay for ad-slots during that programme.

Sponsors invest in the ad-slots on the offchance that some of crores of viewers will be so interested in the next scene that they'll keep checking in between ads to know when ads get over.
If even some of the people checking in between ads watch some of those ads, and just some of them then buy the products advertised, it's a huge enough population reached that the ad-slots become a worthwhile investment.
If not enough people find the programme so interesting that they won't even miss one scene, then the ad-slots are less worthwhile, and the sponsors investment is not so good.

The channels have twice tried to bluff that they can do without sponsors paying for ad-slots. It didn't work either time.
Sponsors have other means of promoting their products.
Channels have no other means of recouping their financial costs on such massive basis.

That was why the channels had to backtrack from insisting that they would not be ruled by TRP, to now keeping a facade of acknowledging only TVT while accepting sponsors open stance that their negotiations and opinions about programmes ad-slots worth will be based on TRP.

So the larger the viewership of a programme, the more monetarily worthwhile the sponsors consider that programme's ad-slots.
A small-budget show with relatively less expensive actors can afford mediocre TRP.
A show that has big budget and/or expensive actors can afford nothing less than great TRP. That is why tracks get changed to get better TRP, and if nothing works, then either budget and cast are messed around with to reduce the series expense, or the series is closed.

Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: leelaa9


<font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kritika, the MEIEJ lead cast pay has had a payhike some months back to stick with the series for longer. And the series is already high-budget.
If TRP does not become much higher than the current one, the series will be making a loss on regular basis.
Channel can want a series to close down. That's the only result out of highly paid actors in a high-budget series and that series not raking in great TRP.

And majority-audience viewers showing disinterest for a track via not-great TRP ensures that either the track changes superficially or wholly, or sponsors start reconsidering the monetary worth they should pay for ad-slots during that programme.

Sponsors invest in the ad-slots on the offchance that some of crores of viewers will be so interested in the next scene that they'll keep checking in between ads to know when ads get over.
If even some of the people checking in between ads watch some of those ads, and just some of them then buy the products advertised, it's a huge enough population reached that the ad-slots become a worthwhile investment.
If not enough people find the programme so interesting that they won't even miss one scene, then the ad-slots are less worthwhile, and the sponsors investment is not so good.

The channels have twice tried to bluff that they can do without sponsors paying for ad-slots. It didn't work either time.
Sponsors have other means of promoting their products.
Channels have no other means of recouping their financial costs on such massive basis.

That was why the channels had to backtrack from insisting that they would not be ruled by TRP, to now keeping a facade of acknowledging only TVT while accepting sponsors open stance that their negotiations and opinions about programmes ad-slots worth will be based on TRP.

So the larger the viewership of a programme, the more monetarily worthwhile the sponsors consider that programme's ad-slots.
A small-budget show with inexpensive actors can afford mediocre TRP.
A show that has big budget and/or expensive actors can afford nothing less than great TRP. That is why tracks get changed to get better TRP, and if nothing works, then either budget and cast are messed around with to reduce the series expense, or the series is closed.
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Frankly I don't understand much about all financial stuff

But I do know one thing if you start accepting mediocre quality of series an have no urge to improve
And you start accepting mediocre TRPs
You will never realise when you fall from mediocre to bad

It is only the urge to excel and do well keeps you at least in the mediocre group

We all know our serial was in first five for long
And first 1O for very long
And now it is at 15
And you are happy with this and continue to show same crap without trying to improve then without realising soon you will be out of top 20

You have to treat the disease when it is treatable
At least I think it's beyond foolish to wait for disease to spread all over body and reach a stage where it becomes untreatable

But if you want to shut your own shop because you are too arrogant to listen to anybody and think your ego will get hurt to agree that you made a mistake.
Then no probs
Continue the work

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