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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Oh_No_Soaps



Firstly for your post to make sense..one needs to know what the word EMPATHY means...and unfortunately you will be surprised as to how many here will not even know the meaning of the word...

Empathy:
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives.
The ability to understand another person's circumstances, point of view, thoughts, and feelings. When experiencing empathy, you are able to understand someone else's internal experiences.

Some people have a great deal of sympathy for rk because they are able to relate to the possibilty or reality of losing their dad, or having an uncaring stepdad. Having a family and enough financial security having a roof over their heads, food and unlimited access to internet, removes some people from being able to put themselves in the place of a street urchin on the streets of mumbai and think about how life would be like for them. Also the rigidness of what is right and wrong when it comes to killing...and the cvs have for this very reason made this character to be a gangster who has killed many times. Besides, I think the way so many see it...why imagine yourself as a sadakchaap when you can picture yourself as rk superstar or his biwi!! lolll

But more than any of this...its much more dumber than that...VD plays rk and therefore rk is the hero. Ergo...whatever rk does is justified or poor thing...its understandable. Any character played by vd has to be a hero. Bas. Now what if what he is doing is not looking heroic or good? Bash down the other guy. If he can be made to look bad then, it makes rk look good or not so bad. Sadly it really is just this...phangirling. And that too not by teenagers alone..that would be understandable but women in their twenties!! Oh and if you are not a vd fan but a dd fan, then its better that she is with a superstar rather then a gangster...so what if he abuses her!

Sultan is a joy to watch, here is a man who has been through so much, yet he has such sensitivity and depth of character. And oh yes he has that ability his bhains bhai lacks completely...to empathise!! Look how he has been with padmini, with madhu. Im really looking forward to seeing him with his mother!
Excellent post...I really enjoyed it! Please do write more!!


sometimes PHANGIRLING cant b controlled...biggest example is me KAT...i m bcuming UR PHANGIRL...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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wow !what a post and so beautifully written.Its sad what happened ,Doesnt he deserve a bit of emphaty ?The world outside the forum is better then the world inside forum.I m sure whoever saw todays episode they all must have feeled sultan s pain accept phanka s of the main lead.
Edited by tanvismile - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: ABBY_JERAN




NO CHARACTER has been butchered...period...rk was made a kameena way before sultans entry...

sultan is NOT forced in the show...he is the NEED of the shw now...period..


Oh RK was butcher, he is a kameena which he himself acknowledges, but the way they showed him after Sultan entry.

Was not the same RK, not to all his fans who do understand how his mind works.

Sultan is not needed in this show period, unless the cv's gives credible story.

Now Mohan Kundra who was suppose to be nice and principle man is on the butcher table and you are saying none of the characters are butchered.

What about Padminiji, she has always been a sharp but does things calmly was behaving like a person has gone mad.

I know you like Sultan and hate RK, no need to explain you anything as you will not understand.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: sunflower52

Sultan is not needed in this show period, unless the cv's gives credible story.



Really now Sunflower, aren't you being presumptuous and overtly assuming something just because you saw a miniscule part of the show!

Who decides? YOU??? Whether he is NEEDED or NOT NEEDED????

How do you decide? Just because you saw 10% of the story unfold and then presume, "OH I AM SO RIGHT, I don't WANT HIM so he IS NOT NEEDED"

Come on, now!!!! IF the CVS did not have him in the story from DAY ONE, why did they book him in the first place even before the show aired on your screens??????

You think the PH, the Channel, the people who are footing the bill for the show to even air on Colors TV are fools and idiots that they bring in a character without any basis and spend their money to entertain YOU and YOUR ILK???

Who are you to decide what is NEEDED, who is NEEDED and WHY? How do you KNOW? How can you make a judgement call? You like what they give you, watch it, you don't like it, don't watch it, PERIOD.

Don't presume that you know everything, anything and all the things, that is the first fallacy of a delusional all-pervading omnipotent mind.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: sunflower52


Oh RK was butcher, he is a kameena which he himself acknowledges, but the way they showed him after Sultan entry.

Was not the same RK, not to all his fans who do understand how his mind works.

Sultan is not needed in this show period, unless the cv's gives credible story.

Now Mohan Kundra who was suppose to be nice and principle man is on the butcher table and you are saying none of the characters are butchered.

What about Padminiji, she has always been a sharp but does things calmly was behaving like a person has gone mad.

I know you like Sultan and hate RK, no need to explain you anything as you will not understand.

unlike the fangrps...cvs lives dont start n end with sulbala vs rishbala competition for which for one hero they will butcher othr hero...but cant blame u...both fangrps r equally pathetic...they r unable to accept BOTH HEROES r GREY n NOT GOD...i m sure Sulbalians will also bash cvs the way u r doing now for butchering Sultans role when he ll bcum grey while tking revenge...so i m NOT tking SIDES of ny FaNGRP here coz for both THEIR GOD HERO shud b remaind untouched...same goes with mb bashing too...if mb is with rk sulbalians call her despo n if sulbala has a scn then rkbala fans call her characterless aryans nanny...SO RNT BOTH GRPS EQUALLY PATHETIC...period...n i m watching the shw frm EPI 1...no DONT stay under illusion that sulbala fans hv no idea abt rk...PLUS I M AGAINST THE FORUM RULE that to LIKE SULTAN u HV TO HATE RK...sorry...but i LUV BOTH OUR HEROES
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Posted: 12 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: practicecalm



Really now Sunflower, aren't you being presumptuous and overtly assuming something just because you saw a miniscule part of the show!

Who decides? YOU??? Whether he is NEEDED or NOT NEEDED????

How do you decide? Just because you saw 10% of the story unfold and then presume, "OH I AM SO RIGHT, I don't WANT HIM so he IS NOT NEEDED"

Come on, now!!!! IF the CVS did not have him in the story from DAY ONE, why did they book him in the first place even before the show aired on your screens??????

You think the PH, the Channel, the people who are footing the bill for the show to even air on Colors TV are fools and idiots that they bring in a character without any basis and spend their money to entertain YOU and YOUR ILK???

Who are you to decide what is NEEDED, who is NEEDED and WHY? How do you KNOW? How can you make a judgement call? You like what they give you, watch it, you don't like it, don't watch it, PERIOD.

Don't presume that you know everything, anything and all the things, that is the first fallacy of a delusional all-pervading omnipotent mind.



How about reading the person who quoted me. Saying Sultan is needed on this show period. As if her's opinion is like patthar ki lakeer.

Now you are attacking me for giving me my opinion. I have never implied as such, this is your thinking is impaired.

Why do people make shows, that is to earn money. How they earn money is when that audience enjoys watching what the PH or channel gives.

Reporting is also useless as the mods not here.

@bold, using such big words without understanding the meaning, I found this offensive.

so goodbye, my last post.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#27
Sunflower: I was attacking the premise that "Sultan is not needed" which is an all-pervading statement that springs from presuming that we know everything and anything and all the things. Is that not a delusion that we harbor that we know everything?

My intention was not attack you as I value your opinion and comment but was to point out the fallacy in your/my/our thinking.

Thanks for commenting and opining.
Edited by practicecalm - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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For all the peoples talking about TRPs:

I will bet a banana to all the Sultan haters to remove Sultan from the equation and see how the show falls flat on it's face...the TRPs you keep quoting prior to Sultan's entry were prior to digitization and were skewed...everyone in the industry knows that...that the sample size and the telemeters that were recorded earlier were not capturing the real data, that is the reason THE I & B Ministry introduced digitization...

AND NOW TRPs are a MOOT POINT as COLORS TV has LEFT TAM and not renewed it's subscription with TAM as TAM's figures are not proper and their methodology is NOT transparent...

So stop the Sultan bashing...for pete's sakes
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Posted: 12 years ago
#29
Why he is stil in d show!! He was anoying dan ny othr in d show
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ehmmbhvirman

Why he is stil in d show!! He was anoying dan ny othr in d show



really, ek kaam karo...switch off your TV, go to Youtube, load all the RK scenes, buy some popcorn and munch on it while you go gaga over RK ...bad end of your problems...cause no matter how much you crib and abuse Sultan, Sultan is here to stay and he is the mainstay of this serial from now on

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