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Posted: 12 years ago
#11
Sultan will come out on top. He always does. He also does only what he wants too.
Don't worry guys, no one is about to abuse him or use him.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: practicecalm

Ms. Sunflower: I never asked you NOT to empathize with RK, did I? Please go back and read what I wrote, I asked why people ONLY choose to empathize with one while condemning the other when both their situations are similar and while RK at least had a mother of sorts and a step father in Kuku Bhati, Sultan was thrown to the dogs (literally) and forcibly removed from his mum.

So, both situations are entirely different.


Having a step father like Kuku Bhatia, is better not to have a father at all.

I guess the way the cv's are going around with his character, is not making lot's of them have empathy on Sultan. Not many are able to relate to him, he is a gangster but look at the portrayal.

When he entered, I was like here comes a gangster who can give RK a solid takkar, no they had to make him some sort of Angel of mercy.

The biggest problem everyone is having is that to keep him in the story the cv's end up butchering all the original characters.

That what made the other's who have been watching the show from the beginning get angry and take out their disappointment on Sultan's character.


He had a good mother in Nazia, but she died so he had some good memories of her step mom. Seems she took good care of him or else why would he feel like that for the mother who raised him till the age of 8. To bad both of their step father's turn out to be a**.

Sultan's story has just begun, let's see how the cv's proceed.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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so true poor sulatn he always gone be alone kya hope aryan stays with him
he deserve all of it which other guy enjoying hope he egts his right
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Posted: 12 years ago
#14
Very well written dear !!! 👍🏼

And very true too ... Empathy is selective here ... 😔
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Posted: 12 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: mozart66

Lovely post. You made me shed more tears of empathy for him. This gem of a man - life took away EVERYTHING from him... people used, abused, lied, cheated him... and to top it all they even refused to be connected or related to him by denying him his basic rights of a family, relations... I truly think no other character on Indian TV has made me feel this much bad today...

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my poor sultan 🥺
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Posted: 12 years ago
#16
the forum tried their best to mk sultan kuku bhatias son...but alas sultan to the forumss beloved belovd dad MOHAN KUNDRA...

bravo cvs

forum tried utmost to prove sultan is a NAJAYAJ LUV CHILD...but Mkundra MARRIED meera...
bravo cvs


Forum wants Sultan to tk money frm rk...hv they forgotten Sultan himself is RICH...even rk said to mb once that her sadakchap bf PAISAWAALA hai..plus in the spoilers its written sultan will refuse to tk money...aww...dil ke armaan ansoo mein beh gaye

Bravo cvs

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forum was all ready to demean sultan n his mom in every way possible BUT thnx to the spoilers...cvs hv Shut the doors real hard

SALUTE to cvs

n even if he tks baela on rk family...that will also b with dignity...SULTAN is all abt DIGNITY
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post.
Empathy... feeling and comprehending a person of contemplation.
Sultan needs this from us more than anybody else.
Your points are great. Anybody who does not feel this for Sultan after today are surely blind and need to take another look at themselves.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunflower52



<font color="#ff00ff">Having a step father like Kuku Bhatia, is better not to have a father at all.</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">I guess the way the cv's are going around with his character, is not making lot's of them have empathy on Sultan. Not many are able to relate to him, he is a gangster but look at the portrayal.</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">When he entered, I was like here comes a gangster who can give RK a solid takkar, no they had to make him some sort of Angel of mercy.</font>

<font color="#ff00ff"> The biggest problem everyone is having is that to keep him in the story the cv's end up butchering all the original characters.</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">That what made the other's who have been watching the show from the beginning get angry and take out their disappointment on Sultan's character.</font>


<font color="#ff00ff">He had a good mother in Nazia, but she died so he had some good memories of her step mom. Seems she took good care of him or else why would he feel like that for the mother who raised him till the age of 8. To bad both of their step father's turn out to be a**.</font>

<font color="#ff00ff">Sultan's story has just begun, let's see how the cv's proceed.</font>





NO CHARACTER has been butchered...period...rk was made a kameena way before sultans entry...

sultan is NOT forced in the show...he is the NEED of the shw now...period..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: practicecalm

Sultan, the character!

A child who was abandoned by his own dad.

A child whose identity was taken away from him.

A child who was callously separated from his mother by the callous hands of his biological father, no matter what the reasons there are.

A child who had to fend for himself and fight for staying alive.

Some poor family takes him under their wings, and shelters him - Nazia and Rashid.

Nazia departs and the man responsible for her departure makes Sultan chose a path where he pronounced the judgement and became the jury in avenging the wrong that was done to his adopted mother, though he only knew her as his real mother.

His adopted dad too left him.

A homeless little boy, a juvenile delinquent, where does he go? Who does he seek? Who offers him solace? Orphaned and left in the cold, he had to chose to survive or die?

Of course, some favorites who hate him to the core, will want him dead, or would have wanted him dead right when he was young.

But, gladly for us and sadly, for those haters, Sultan, the child survived to become Sultan the man.

A man is not his occupation, his occupation may be that of a gangster.

But let's not condemn the man for being a human being, a man, let's not condemn him for choosing to survive with the only options available to him.

Everyone's life is not so darn rosy nor are they cossetted that they can all become superstars.

For some life is terrible, the betrayals, the pain, the losses turn some in directions that may be hard for people to understand, BUT WHAT ABOUT EMPATHY?

We don't know the reasons that he is a gangster now, nor do we know what those gangster activities involve. Just by mere labels, we condemn.

Is EMPATHY so selective that you all feel sorry for only one character that sheds copious tears while forget that there are other less fortunate ones who have also faced a lot of trials and tribulations. What makes us pour out our sympathy and outpouring of overwhelming empathy for the chosen ones while we demean and destroy those that are truly in need of our empathy?

Sultan - the person, the character needs your EMPATHY not your condemnation. Condemn his crimes if there are any, but don't condemn the man.

PS: Bashers stay away...



Firstly for your post to make sense..one needs to know what the word EMPATHY means...and unfortunately you will be surprised as to how many here will not even know the meaning of the word...

Empathy:
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives.
The ability to understand another person's circumstances, point of view, thoughts, and feelings. When experiencing empathy, you are able to understand someone else's internal experiences.

Some people have a great deal of sympathy for rk because they are able to relate to the possibilty or reality of losing their dad, or having an uncaring stepdad. Having a family and enough financial security having a roof over their heads, food and unlimited access to internet, removes some people from being able to put themselves in the place of a street urchin on the streets of mumbai and think about how life would be like for them. Also the rigidness of what is right and wrong when it comes to killing...and the cvs have for this very reason made this character to be a gangster who has killed many times. Besides, I think the way so many see it...why imagine yourself as a sadakchaap when you can picture yourself as rk superstar or his biwi!! lolll

But more than any of this...its much more dumber than that...VD plays rk and therefore rk is the hero. Ergo...whatever rk does is justified or poor thing...its understandable. Any character played by vd has to be a hero. Bas. Now what if what he is doing is not looking heroic or good? Bash down the other guy. If he can be made to look bad then, it makes rk look good or not so bad. Sadly it really is just this...phangirling. And that too not by teenagers alone..that would be understandable but women in their twenties!! Oh and if you are not a vd fan but a dd fan, then its better that she is with a superstar rather then a gangster...so what if he abuses her!

Sultan is a joy to watch, here is a man who has been through so much, yet he has such sensitivity and depth of character. And oh yes he has that ability his bhains bhai lacks completely...to empathise!! Look how he has been with padmini, with madhu. Im really looking forward to seeing him with his mother!
Excellent post...I really enjoyed it! Please do write more!!


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very good point of view regarding Sultan character.It is interesting how many people expecting Sultan to turn negative my question is if he turn negative because all the bad things happened to him all his life do you really blame him i isn't the same point they are all defending RK and his gray character because of same past it would be interesting to see how people react if he really turn negative this form is so biased to words characters beyond the reason which i never understand simply people can not differentiate characters and actors.

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