Why must Sultan not be a gangster? - Page 3

This is by Fia21 so dont give me credit for it plz

People on this forum have some serious misconceptions when it comes to the word "criminal" . In their opinion, only a person who gets caught for committing a crime is a criminal. Sultan's only disadvantage is that his resume speaks for him, but when it comes to RK, people very conveniently turn a blind eye to the crimes that he has committed. Drunk driving, hit and run, blackmail, beating someone to death, these are all crimes. Just because he didn't get caught for most of them doesn't mean he never committed them and makes him no less a criminal. RK may have lost his Father when he was child, but Sultan has witnessed a more brutal past and childhood. He lost both his parents at a young age and has way more real problems to deal with. The only reason he stepped into the Underworld was to take revenge from the people who killed his Mother. That doesn't make him bad, that only makes him human. Whereas RK takes pleasure in the misery of others. All his actions are only and only to satisfy his ego.

Originally posted by: DushtDanaf.

it's not the fact that he has feelings for her that annoys people; it's that he has sudden overnight feelings for her that ruined his character for a lot of us! weren't you as a fan annoyed that the creators executed it so halfassed when they could have taken their time and had it make sense and still kept him in character? but no, they rushed through everything just for the drama quotient. and the problem's never been madhu reciprocating any of his feelings, we know full well that hasn't happened and she keeps emphasizing that she's still in love with RK so what really bugs me is that despite all this her behavior and his responses are laying the foundations for some really irritating misunderstandings that could take place in future episodes. I'd rather just have it be one way or the other instead of having to suffer through one misunderstanding after the other until the story's just at a complete standstill.

Originally posted by: bidz

Hi there,

I will try to give you our perspective. may be we can see each others point of view, or respectfully agree to disagree. but I will give it a shot anyways.

I am not sure if what sultan feels for madhu is love. If it is, it is at a subconscious level. He hasn't realized it yet. However, they do have a connection. And here I would argue that connection does happen instantly. Either you connect with people instantly, or you never do even if you keep meeting again and again. So, I don't think there is anything weird about them having a sudden connection.

Why fear something that hasn't happened? if Sultan creates misunderstanding between them in the future, then Rishbala should be strong enough to overcome it, right? isn't that what true love is all about?

Its late in the night for me, so I might be off and on here, and not be here for too long, but I will reply if you do see this and care to reply.

you're so polite lol, and yeah the annoying bit still remains that that connection is one-sided!! what exactly does a person achieve from approaching that in a sensible, practical or logical attitude when ultimately it has no real satisfying end; and its not my fear of misunderstandings that's had me disinterested in this track but my lack of desire to watch that track play out in the show; as a fan of the other side you can't possibly say you're too enthused at the idea of Madhubala dropping unintentional hints at Sultan and further entangling him in her personal problems only to eventually end up doing what she did today and asking him to butt out. because that's exactly what we'll be having with one-sided triangle, just do evers of todays episode.

Your effort is commendable Nina! Sultan's character is highlightedso beautifully in this post.
You're right he doesn't blame anyone for his choices.
His outlook in life is simple, what's wrong is wrong and what's right is right. No ifs & buts...
& I don't think he loves Madhu- just yet that is. He respects her that's evident, he's developed a soft corner for her, he seems attracted to her. & No not physical attraction but attracted to her kindness, her selfless gestures, and especially her concern for his son...

Nina love you for this post! 😊

Originally posted by: Zinnia.TaaRey

Great post, ninand. Very well written. I've gone through the thread and read your responses, which I have thoroughly enjoyed reading. Very interesting exchange of arguments! :)

And I have to say, I do agree with the member who made the point about Sultan being a possible contender for Madhu's feelings as the real issue. I happen to agree with that. Even if Sultan wasn't a gangster, I doubt certain members would embrace him. The whole hoopla about his past is just a cover up (IMO)

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

This is by Fia21 so dont give me credit for it plz

People on this forum have some serious misconceptions when it comes to the word "criminal" . In their opinion, only a person who gets caught for committing a crime is a criminal. Sultan's only disadvantage is that his resume speaks for him, but when it comes to RK, people very conveniently turn a blind eye to the crimes that he has committed. Drunk driving, hit and run, blackmail, beating someone to death, these are all crimes. Just because he didn't get caught for most of them doesn't mean he never committed them and makes him no less a criminal. RK may have lost his Father when he was child, but Sultan has witnessed a more brutal past and childhood. He lost both his parents at a young age and has way more real problems to deal with. The only reason he stepped into the Underworld was to take revenge from the people who killed his Mother. That doesn't make him bad, that only makes him human. Whereas RK takes pleasure in the misery of others. All his actions are only and only to satisfy his ego.

Originally posted by: eminent

Your effort is commendable Nina! Sultan's character is highlightedso beautifully in this post.
You're right he doesn't blame anyone for his choices.
His outlook in life is simple, what's wrong is wrong and what's right is right. No ifs & buts...
& I don't think he loves Madhu- just yet that is. He respects her that's evident, he's developed a soft corner for her, he seems attracted to her. & No not physical attraction but attracted to her kindness, her selfless gestures, and especially her concern for his son...

Nina love you for this post! 😊

Really excellent post and topic !! And really liked the discussions and the points u made n some of the others.
See, it's posts like this that remind u that there r some sensible people around who can put forward their views, so legibly and eloquently and yet in a concise fashion. :-)

Special appreciation for u posts and @likarsh:-)

@likarsh Loved the way u analyzed Sultan and the metaphor of lion and pride to the don thing u used. :-)

Originally posted by: DushtDanaf.

you're so polite lol, and yeah the annoying bit still remains that that connection is one-sided!! what exactly does a person achieve from approaching that in a sensible, practical or logical attitude when ultimately it has no real satisfying end; and its not my fear of misunderstandings that's had me disinterested in this track but my lack of desire to watch that track play out in the show; as a fan of the other side you can't possibly say you're too enthused at the idea of Madhubala dropping unintentional hints at Sultan and further entangling him in her personal problems only to eventually end up doing what she did today and asking him to butt out. because that's exactly what we'll be having with one-sided triangle, just do evers of todays episode.

edited: k just read your added bit and i must say that's the best answer for his sudden and unexplained "love" i've heard yet; so far the only defence i've heard is "so what he has a right to move on" blah blah, but yeah i like what you're saying a lot better, even if it doesn't really make me accepting of the outcome either way.

@bidz.. loved your sweet explanations bidz.. and maybe I can hire you to write my 'Note to reader' for me from next time onwards.. it'll smooth out my rough edges😆🤗