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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Angeena


I'm talking about the previous episodes where all everyone was talking about was that he is in denial. And all the while I saw those scenes, it registered that he loves her and I thought --- Everyone is saying this is RK in denial, and it's so obvious he is in love. Is he really so stupid that he can't tell?

Which then led to me thinking of other shows where the realization of love track is so stretched out --- heart beats faster, can't breathe, can't think --- and still the character thinks "I don't love that person."

And it makes me wonder, is this a universal phenomenon? Do people in denial really don't see something so utterly obvious? Which leads me to wondering --- are they really so stupid in this one thing considering they are smart in everything else?

Okay. Let us go with the theory that RK is still in denial, and I will try to give you my 2 cents. 😆
The answer is yes. This is a universal phenomenon.
Love is a very complex emotion and cannot be put in to the frames of right/wrong, stupid/intelligent unless you have already faced some repurcussions of it.
Accepting that one is in love is a big task and like a leap forward. Believe me. And the more you delay it, the more it hurts.
All of us are egiost to an extent. But people whose life is governed by their ego, for them everything comes down to their king size EGO. They make all the important decisions of their life pertaining to this. Their ego is their mental thoughts that try to keep them safe by justifying their actions. They are against seeking anyones help even in the smallest possible problem. In short, these are people who have formed a wall around their heart as a shield against the outside world. And for people like this, to accept that somebody has actually put all their years of hardwork down the drain and successfully managed to break that wall and make a place in their heart is really difficult.
In short, EGO is just an illusion that blurs your vision. Hence people tend to ignore even utterly obvious happenings. For some like RK its a defence mechanism to shelter themselves, and to realize and accept that your defense mechanisms have faltered is an uphill task. So, this long phase of denial.
That was a long lecture on EGO and love. I don't know if it made sense. 😆 We have much more articluate writers here on this thread.
Edited by Ananya05 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Okay. Let us go with the theory that RK is still in denial, and I will try to give you my 2 cents. 😆
The answer is yes. This is a universal phenomenon.
Love is a very complex emotion and cannot be put in to the frames of right/wrong, stupid/intelligent unless you have already faced some repurcussions of it.
Accepting that one is in love is a big task and like a leap forward. Believe me. And the more you delay it, the more it hurts.
All of us are egiost to an extent. But people whose life is governed by their ego, for them everything comes down to their king size EGO. They make all the important decisions of their life pertaining to this. Their ego is their mental thoughts that try to keep them safe by justifying their actions. They are against seeking anyones help even in the smallest possible problem. In short, these are people who have formed a wall around their heart as a shield against the outside world. And for people like this, to accept that somebody has actually put all their years of hardwork down the drain and successfully managed to break that wall and make a place in their heart is really difficult.
In short, EGO is just an illusion that blurs your vision. Hence people tend to ignore even utterly obvious happenings. For some like RK its a defence mechanism to shelter themselves, and to realize and accept that your defense mechanisms have faltered is an uphill task. So, this long phase of denial.
That was a long lecture on EGO and love. I don't know if it made sense. 😆 We have much more articluate writers here on this thread.


It does not have to be articulate.. In layman's language... you have pointed it out
perfectly..

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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Okay. Let us go with the theory that RK is still in denial, and I will try to give you my 2 cents. 😆
The answer is yes. This is a universal phenomenon.
Love is a very complex emotion and cannot be put in to the frames of right/wrong, stupid/intelligent unless you have already faced some repurcussions of it.
Accepting that one is in love is a big task and like a leap forward. Believe me. And the more you delay it, the more it hurts.
All of us are egiost to an extent. But people whose life is governed by their ego, for them everything comes down to their king size EGO. They make all the important decisions of their life pertaining to this. Their ego is their mental thoughts that try to keep them safe by justifying their actions. They are against seeking anyones help even in the smallest possible problem. In short, these are people who have formed a wall around their heart as a shield against the outside world. And for people like this, to accept that somebody has actually put all their years of hardwork down the drain and successfully managed to break that wall and make a place in their heart is really difficult.
In short, EGO is just an illusion that blurs your vision. Hence people tend to ignore even utterly obvious happenings. For some like RK its a defence mechanism to shelter themselves, and to realize and accept that your defense mechanisms have faltered is an uphill task. So, this long phase of denial.
That was a long lecture on EGO and love. I don't know if it made sense. 😆 We have much more articluate writers here on this thread.



Disclaimer - I am neither articulate nor an expert at analyzing complex feeling. However I just could not help myself when i read the above post and hence my rambling below. Shri I hope I am not once again speculating or chatting out of scope here.

I am with Ananya on this. EGO is a very powerful emotion, feeling, state of mind that will literally paralyze you from accepting any change of even the smallest measure or relevance. It is like your security blanket without which you feel unsafe, vulnarable, naked. It is a well fed cat( or lion in this case) that will growl very loudly every time you try to tame it. It is the fight of you against you. As an outsider we can see this clearly (as do Bittuji and Radha in this case) and we think it is oh so simple, why can he not realize it. Why on earth is he fighting this feeling. EGO has perception of total control, power within you. Loving someone is letting go of that very control and opening your innermost deepest fears, hurts, feelings to someone else and most importantly trusting them to respect them, keep them , value them and not trample upon them. Love demands total submission of mind, body and soul which goes against the very fabric of ego. Ego keeps everything checked inside you, love beckons you to let it all go. That is actually a very frightning thought in itself and needs immense courage to let go and love someone deeply, completely.

Based on this babble above I will say currently what we are watching is
Madhubala - Ek Courageous Ek Coward
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
@MarathiMulgithat is exactly why I can not understand how someone can truly love unconditionally and be egotistic at the same time. it is beyond me!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

what did rk think he was going to be doing while madhu was scratching his head???

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Posted: 12 years ago
#46


"This Is A Love Song" - Bill Anderson

Sometimes I catch myself staring at you while you're lying fast asleep
I memorize the moment and lock it away
In my heart somewhere where it'll keep
Sometimes I still tremble when you brush against my skin
Where your hand reaches out to touch my face
I've never known anyone like you before
And I know I'll never see the likes of you again
No one in this world could ever take your place

And in case you don't know it this is a love song
And it comes from the heart of someone who loves you so
I don't always show it so this is a love song
You are loved I just wanted you to know

And in the quiet times when you talk to me
I hang on to every word that you say
You might not always see my love but it's always there
You still take my breath away


This is dedicated to Madhu
:

"The Love She Found in Me" - Michael Johnson


She looked into a heart so sad
And saw what no one ever had
Beneath the snow she saw the spring
She finds good in everything

Give her thorns and she'll find the roses
Give her sand and she'll find the sea
Give her rain and she'll find the rainbows
Just see the love she's found in me
Just see the love she's found in me

She looks beneath each tear that's cried
And somehow sees the sunny side
Even on the darkest night
She knows where to find the light

Give her thorns and she'll find the roses
Give her sand and she'll find the sea
Give her rain and she'll find the rainbows
Just see the love she's found in me
Just see the love she's found in me

When the world starts closing in
She gives me strength to smile again

Give her thorns and she'll find the roses
Give her sand and she'll find the sea
Give her rain and she'll find the rainbows
Just see the love she's found in me
Just see the love she's found in me

Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47

Awesome poster Zorica.
Madhu is dominating on RK 's thinking '😆😆. Your poster is the witness.
Edited by nanibommana - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
A song dedication for the hard hearted Rishabh Kundra, who is denyingly, madly in love. Some of these lines can be from both viewers and Madhu to RK while some are solely applicable as if Madhu is singing out to him.To me this is the song highlighting the fear of a self-destructive person to enter into a relationship.
The Hardest of hearts, by Florence and The Machine
There is love in your body but you can't hold it in
It pours from your eyes and spills from your skin
Tenderest touch leaves the darkest of marks
And the kindest of kisses break the hardest of hearts

The hardest of hearts
The hardest of hearts
The hardest of hearts

There is love in your body but you can't get it out
It gets stuck in your head, won't come out of your mouth
Sticks to your tongue and shows on your face
That the sweetest of words have the bitterest taste

Darling heart, I loved you from the start
But you'll never know what a fool I've been
Darling heart, I loved you from the start
But that's no excuse for the state I'm in

The hardest of hearts
The hardest of hearts
The hardest of hearts

There is love in our bodies and it holds us together
But pulls us apart when we're holding each other
We all want something to hold in the night
We don't care if it hurts or we're holding too tight

There is love in your body but you can't get it out
It gets stuck in your head, won't come out of your mouth
Sticks to your tongue and it shows on your face
That the sweetest of words have the bitterest taste

Darling heart, I loved you from the start
But you'll never know what a fool I've been
Darling heart, I loved you from the start
But that's no excuse for the state I'm in

The hardest of hearts
The hardest of hearts
The hardest of hearts

My heart swells like a water at work
Can't stop myself before it's too late
Hold on to your heart
'Cause I'm coming to take it
Hold on to your heart
'Cause I'm coming to break it

Hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on
Hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on
The hardest of hearts (hold on, hold on)
The hardest of hearts (hold on, hold on)
The hardest of hearts (hold on)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0clYf51Wtx0


Edited by Ananya05 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

@MarathiMulgithat is exactly why I can not understand how someone can truly love unconditionally and be egotistic at the same time. it is beyond me!!!



His ego is the biggest condition that he has put in the way of his love.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: anastasia21



His ego is the biggest condition that he has put in the way of his love.

still love should overcome ego since love is the stronger emotion. I dont understand how love and ego can co-exist in a person at the same time.

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