Episode 201 Discussion: 21st Feb 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
#51
I have an eerie felling after seeing the precap.. I think RK will use Dips as a pawn to drive Madhu away from him forever...I hope it does not go that way but I have this feeling it will. Bituji is right..


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: reenap

I have an eerie felling after seeing the precap.. I think RK will use Dips as a pawn to drive Madhu away from him forever...I hope it does not go that way but I have this feeling it will. Bituji is right..



He will never cross his limits with Deepali. Let us not panic so much over the precap.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

still love should overcome ego since love is the stronger emotion. I dont understand how love and ego can co-exist in a person at the same time.



that's the whole point. It doesn't co-exist. Love conquers all but love doesn't do that in a fortnight. And here's a person who is fighting his inner demons and he refuses to take help. He is in denial they say. Why? Because he denies the very fact that he is capable of loving anybody. He bullies anyone who suggests otherwise. Like Ananya and MarathiMulgi said, he has wrapped himself up in his ego, not for fun but to protect himself. And he gets vicious when anybody approaches and threatens to break down his barrier. He is not in love and egoistic at the same time. Ego is his best defense and his subconscious is in love.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Khel Khel Mein everything became serious for the two. Super serious. How ? Because its not about the hate for each other. Its about the love for each other that turned it bad for them. I felt the pain that both were undergoing. Today it was about RK(the one who loves her) and Madhu.

For me...I have never much delved deep into Why RK spurned Madhu's love and instead made it a revenge game. Infact I am more like Madhu, who recognized what made RK reject her, his Ego, his Ahankaar, seeing that massive size poster of his. And from the very beginning I am saying that getting cheated doesn't hurt her as much as him not loving her hurts her. It baffles her to no end how could his ego could have won over her love. When she had come to her senses and as he was not in physical proximity to her, she could never question him about that. She was tad too late in coming out of her shock and was unable to give a proper verbal closure to her questions when RK right in front of her was doing all that un-wedding drama. When she realized it later at the chawl, she was late and all that tangible reality left on her hands was that he led her on, cheated her. Yes, there are certain things we cannot tell everyone...those matters of heart are best kept as secret. This she had to accept and decided to move on as that is the answer to any kind of cheating in the world.

Two days of holding her head high as the Hair Dresser before RK the Superstar actually did Madhu a lot of good. She indeed could see that she was moving on. Where it went seemingly wrong or seemingly right for her was when RK called her to vanity van today. Going to that Vanity Van was really a mammoth moment for her, as she was in a dilemma in which capacity she was going to meet him, as the Hair dresser or as his Ex-Wife. She really needed that courage. Once she met him and as she came out of that meeting, everything had changed for Madhu. Everything. The man gave her a BIG GAPING CLUE what she means to him. He made HER HIS Permanent Mark.. He said directly to her with a wink just for her eyes, but holding her in his gaze, leaning over her so closely over her chair, in a caging manner before everyone else that, "Only he has the right to hurt her and defeat her, no one else has". What should a woman do now. Feel elated, Feel tormented or Feel great ?

If Madhu is a vengeful person looking for revenge, she shall realize that She is RK's weakness and she can make RK her fiddlestick.

If Madhu is a person trying to get far far away from RK, the she shall feel tormented that this man is never going to leave her alone. But seriously its been just 4 days. And without a proper closure between herself and RK, how can her heart just forget what she feels for him, even now. Its not the time yet for her to feel tormented.

If Madhu believed that RK loves her and that it is his big fat ego that will not accept that and instead tries to destroy what they can have, then just for her own conviction, she shall feel elated.

The way Madhu gave those expressions to RK as he winked and stated his equation with her, his ordinance for her, she was just looking at him, a pensive face trying to absorb what he did where her body(governed by her mind) was still showing resistance but her eyes and heart very much okay with what he was doing to her. She was as usual trying to read his eyes, but since she knows he is such a good actor that she is now in self-doubt and hence inspite of reading what his eyes expressed, reserving the knowledge for recapitulation at later stage.

It can be clearly said that, it is this moment that tells Madhu that as ordinary girl she might have moved on, but as the woman who loved RK to no end, gets all her latent anger back. The anger, the realization that he loves her as much as she loves him, just that he will never tell her. How pathetic and lonesome feeling is that. She knows it, but cannot talk about it to anybody, neither her family, her friends, even to her conscious mind. She can be with only her heart and this hurt when she projects on RK, she becomes the adamant Madhu who is the one who cluelessly gets affected by him. It is for her now how she can get it back to normalcy. I guess she will now fight with him equally as ego clash, as RK wanted that from her. Right ? He doesn't say he loves her or cares for her, but he says, no one can hurt you other than me. No one can defeat you other than me. She holds the key to him. So its all upto her if she wants to be vengeful or loving as always or get tormented by him.

The way she stood up for herself against her mother and said she will stand up against RK, it was anger and frustration expressed. But truth is she has to do what makes her feel good and not what hurts her more. Anyways for me MAdhu has been one character whose expressions and actions come as a surprise as she doesn't show them at all. She is not an easily read face like RK thinks.


Now coming to RK...the game changer. Why when his challenge and torment game was going on so smoothly, he had to ruin it all by calling Madhu to his vanity van ? Did it start after what he felt when her hair dryer was broke ? Because that is when he planned further torture. If Madhu was in a dilemma of how to meet RK, even RK was in a dilemma how to meet her, as a Superstar or as her Ex-Husband. Well ...something happened between the two...as each depended on the other to give a cue to him/her to get out of the dilemma, and they mutually decide that they will act Superstar and Hair-dresser, but they are going to be the Ex-Husband and Ex-Wife. It comes out so naturally and acceptable to both of them. I am not sure why they were testing out each other or actually not clawing each other, but just living their waning relationship.

He might have asked her to give a head massage expecting that her hate and disgust for him, will make her refuse him. But she is okay to give him the massage as she wants to tell her mind that he is no more capable of affecting her. This surprises RK and he has to play along. Inpite of being taunting to her every second, as she keeps genuinely showing to him that she wants to be rid of him and so will do everything he asks of her without reacting in any anger, it touches him, warms up his heart. And may be a tad relieved or tad hurt that she is moving in a direction she actually should move on. So he stops her from further massage and goes on to do the rest...the reminder of another back-massage act, which was a scene between the two when hate was there. It clicks for him. Madhu does get out of her emotions and understands his instigation to her to fight with him and just leaves the place without any fight.

However, destiny, fate has always something else set for them. Madhu has to fall and the apple cart of determination for the genuine couple trying to separate, all toppled into thin air. The man cannot hide his concern and the woman could not cajole herself to take his help (it would have been okay to accept his help if she just wanted to move on...as she could still be indifferent, like he and she showed their indifference to the head massage, even if it was a pretension). The fall, the concern, the affectation at his care, everything ruins for both of them...and for a while, RK just leaves every plan/facade of his to air and shows himself to her and tells her what he feels for her. It is upto Madhu how she takes it...RK knows that. But he is like, that shall be dealt later, but first let me take care of myself. So that's what happened. He drove of all alone.

In all of this, he knows that he wants to protect Madhu from himself, from his viciousness. He actually wants Madhu to be far far away from him so that she can never get hurt from him or his love. Methinks, he feels that his love for her is destructive and so he is okay is she is just away from him. He has not planned much as to what else can happen tomorrow to their relationship, but his good part (I call it the RK part) today reached out to her and showed a little bit of his side to her and actually delivered that part of him to her and he himself is apprehensively waiting to see what Madhu would do to it.

In all of today's episode, there was no Rishabh. There was only RK; his stronger self acting and presenting. He acted on spur as he is that much in love with Madhu and he wanted to his best for Madhu to get rid of him and his memories and yet he was not helped; and when not helped, just bared himself to her. Come on now, after this scene today, who will deny that the crew there do not recognize them. Almost everyone knew that Superstar and the Hair-dresser were just fighting it out, but the real fight was all between the Ex Husband and Ex-Wife.


Precap - I hate it because Dips is there. Wish I could shoot her down. Wish I could cut her to 100 pieces the way I felt cut when I read the written update. It made me pukish and so revolted that I felt like boycotting MEIEJ for today and tomorrow. Then I felt, I will be the loser...so better I watch it. Methinks, RK is planning an act with Dips to give another riddance of memories for Madhu. He is just trying to make it quick for her to forget him. We have to see if fate/destiny will not again betray his efforts and he ends up delivering another piece of him to Madhu. Because giving piece by piece to Madhu, he is strengthening her to fight his bad side...but this is MEIEJ...so we never know the thriller portion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: anastasia21



that's the whole point. It doesn't co-exist. Love conquers all but love doesn't do that in a fortnight. And here's a person who is fighting his inner demons and he refuses to take help. He is in denial they say. Why? Because he denies the very fact that he is capable of loving anybody. He bullies anyone who suggests otherwise. Like Ananya and MarathiMulgi said, he has wrapped himself up in his ego, not for fun but to protect himself. And he gets vicious when anybody approaches and threatens to break down his barrier. He is not in love and egoistic at the same time. Ego is his best defense and his subconscious is in love.

im not staying it should happen overnight yaar, love is a gradual proccess true. But he has had 5 months now. I consider myself to be an egotistic person but if the person I hated did as much for me as much as Madhu did for RK. My heart would have already melted for humanity sake even if I didnt love Madhu. I would be I cant hurt this person since she was the one that was there for me and rose to the occasion when no one else did. Madhu has done more than enough for RK to make up for those four slaps. It not like he just fell in love in love with Madhu's beauty and charms for the past five months like in other shows but he learned that she is a girl with a beautiful heart. Thus his dialogue to Dips when Madhu wasnt around "Mera madhu ke andar sikka yeh sikki nahi dil dhadakta hai." Not to mention that comment to Bittuji to never question Madhu's character infront of him.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: undisclosed

what did rk think he was going to be doing while madhu was scratching his head???


Syl,

Well !! today I shall take it not as RK and Madhu individually fooling each other or themselves, the person who was standing behind the two was Destiny. He failed both of them at what they were really good and adept at fighting. He just made it a little more futile for them...all efforts are futile and yet so much burden on the heart to prove to each other, to themselves and to the world, that indeed they will succeed in moving on.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shri,

You were inspired! ⭐️
Thanks for your review! 😃

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'm quite confused by today's episode and by RK. I was convinced that this was all revenge and there was no explanation forthcoming, and to a large extent I still believe that.
But RK's reactions veer between a man who is realizing the importance Madhu holds in his life, and a man who is torn between having her and pushing her away. I can't tell one way or the other. The expressions on his face, the way he handled her (he was forceful, but not violent, which was a relief), and his torment at the remembrances- they can go both ways.
I felt so proud and sad for Madhu today. She handled herself with grace and dignity, and showed that while she was angry, it had not overruled all her emotions today (the scene in the vanity van). Her talk with Bittuji was also depressing, as it showed that she was truly pulling away and coming into the "real" world and was secure in her place there- which she should not be because she is better than that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hate that RK made her believe she was ordinary. Even if she had not been his wife, the way she handled herself with Balraj shows that she is no ordinary person. Sigh.
I did not like the argument with her mother. Padmini has valid points, but she should have bought them up before, when Madhu was first going to the shoot. Even so, I dislike the fact that RK is, once again, a cause of division within the household.
Precap: RK can't you share the screen which someone I have less of an aversion to? A rabid monkey perhaps?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shri,
How well u brought up the complexities of the mind and heart today.I loved to read ure take of todays episode.
And my heart was cut into pieces too with the precap,i am just hoping the cv's would keep i bearable.
RK using dips as the pawn to provoke madhu into leaving,would not affect madhu,but would it leave him unscathed?now Bittuji's words are troubling me that in order to run away from bhabhiji,i hope u u dont run so far away that u dont find a vehicle or the way to come back.
What is bothering me is Bittujis apprehension regarding madhu working there,he knows RK to the core unlike radhaji who is an optimist and in a way he also knows madhu is a mirror image of RK but with the heart inplace.😕
anyways the drama is set at an interesting crossroad now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vkk2429


The only scene that caught my attention today was
Madhu's last scene with padmini today..
She is never so stern/aggressive with her mom..
But today she was... and did not want to BACK OUT of her decision
even though she probably knew that her mom was right.
Even the other day (tuesday) when radha came to do the pep
talk... Madhu did not respond to her the way she usually does and
did not accept anything what she suggesting...
It was only later on that she made the decision by HERSELF
(even though a lot of people in this thread say is a stupid one)...
She is still an emotional person but her decisions now are not made
keeping someone else in mind(in the case of mukund or radha/trishna during the love confession) or her decisions are not
made because someone is encouraging her to do so...
They are her OWN decisions made for HERSELF and therefore
does not want to BACK DOWN.
So this is more for herself that she is doing rather than for proving
RK wrong or making someone else happy.

ok enough of this bashan about madhu's attitude change.. probably
even madhu would not have given it so much thought🤣
I am really addicted to MEIEJ...

As for the precap..
Don't want to get my hopes too HIGH that Dips is going to FALL
in everyone's eyes... as I had said to Shri keeping my fingers crossed...


Krithika,

Word it. 👍🏼 Agree on everything you said there. Actually as a psychological bounceback, every cheated person loses confidence and hence to get back their confidence, nothing will make them feel better than them participating in their decision. So even if someone advises them, they need to enter into an argument with it and then decide what they would like to do.

So yes this time, Madhu is ALL ABOUT PROVING to HERSELF, RK and The WORLD the WAY SHE WANTS THEM to PERCEIVE HER.

As per precap and Dips ...mera Dil baitha jaa raha hai. Its really going to be something ugly like old melodrama movies. Dips to hai hee besharam, usko kya pharak padega, saari museebat to apni hai. Hum kaise jhelenge usko kal 😭 😭 😭 😭



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