Episode 163 Discussion: 7th Jan 2013 - Page 3

Shridevi,

Originally posted by: zorica

Shridevi,

Madhu once slept in the dress which she wore during the day! Yellow-blue dress, do you remember?

If you're going to be upset, then I do not put my picture? 🤣

7 phere shaadi! Did I write this correctly?

wow dhamakar entry by the whole family in front of ballu👍🏼
nice rishabala moment in the chawl😛
ballu too scary🤢

Originally posted by: apolloartemis

Balraj sent a shiver up my spine today- his madness, now left unchecked is scary to behold. That said, I wonder, without his mother's guiding hand, just how effective will he be? With the Rishbala fight scene coming up, its a tragedy that the couple will be splintered just when they need to come together, giving Ballu the opening he needs.

Agreed...Balraj was scary. I was having a hard time understanding what upset him more..he was tricked 20 years earlier or that his family survived and is actually happy while his fortunes have declines in all these years. His daughter is married to a superstar, another daughter is poised to star in movie while his wife is all set to remarry. He seemed to be mad and jealous in equal measures. I still believe that he does not have smarts to pull this off ...he still wants to go and kill them. As far as Rishbala are considered thier fight could be a blessing in disguise.

I feel the RK/Radha thing is going to take a huge step back when 1) The Bhatia's come back and 2) Madhu/RK has the fight. This is because I maintain my position that RK is doing the entire thing for Madhu- he himself has no intention with reconciling with his mom- his gestures are always reluctant, and Madhu has to coerce him to do them. So the sweetness does not give me diabetes but for me its false, and will come crashing down. And once again Radunce will show her true colors when Rishbala fight.

Agree again...Radha does not have the backbone to take any initiative or even to stick to her stand. It is in Bhatia's favor that RK and Radha remain splintered so he is bound to throw a monkey wrench in thier growing closeness. RK is reluctant to grow the relationship more because of hesitation than anything else. He knows it is time to move on but is not sure how to and Madhu is helping him with it.

I wonder still, how Madhu will be forced into stardom. This is because they seem to be disposing of tracks faster than I can write-If it's a way for RK to keep her near him, then what leverage will he have? Furthermore, for Balraj to be totally destroyed Madhu has to be know- his star falls as hers rises. So again, does this mean the stardom track is coming up? Or just by being RK's wife she's famous enough?

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Re...The 7 phere completion required for consummation of the marriage.

From the viewer perspective, without 7 phere, we are not going to get to see consummation. So be done with it CVs.

Shridevi says...I hardly care whether CVs want to show 7 pheras completed or not. Because consummation is just one night love making and that too on TV, they will not show it. But for the show, it is the mirage/oasis as depends on what CVs want to show in the end. It will create the promise and thus viewer will be glued to watch the show until it is shown. And I am not going to fall to that bait. No way !!!

Plus how is that actually helping the CVs in writing scenes romantically aftewards. No change. They will continue to have same romantic scenes as now...only difference is they will not yearningly speak of wanting to melt in each others arms, or show desire and restraint and talk of dreams of having children...which is then making consummation done as actually a minus point for them. They will have an uphill task to create a beautiful romance once consummation is achieved. And no matter what seperation is induced, the magic is lost as viewers already would have the cathartic feeling.

RK and Madhu perspective...yes we want 7 pheron waali shaadi because we want to start our conjugal life in all propriety.

Shridevi says - I bless you my dear RK and MB. Just schedule it and i will grace the occasion with my presence and give you mu blessings. My dear, you deserve all the happiness. And I really would love to see junior RK and junior MB in RK dream fashion.

Story dicates - there is an inherent opposition to this dream.

Shridevi says - I concur.

As I explained in my yesterday's post.

By the end of Karva Chauth track, the 4 phera marriage loses its icy edge of having to be isolated from each other in thought; though conjoined as always. It gets the feeling, the warm feeling that starts to melt each other in the relationship they have. They both are happy to realize that they like each other and they start being happy about unexplored things about themselves...like MB falling in love to the point of effacing herself in his presence...like Rishabh knowing that he is still the feeling man and surprisingly it does not hurt him...

However what Rishabh Kundra again does not understand is what does it all mean ? There needs to have some meaning there ? Why did they have to meet in such gory manner ? Was it just for him to realize that he can love...yet again ? He can have something for himself ? Nowdays he is vacillating between being a happy and an insecure man...because he truly doesn't know why MB had been destined to be made part of his life. Even we don't know...Let's see where it goes... For now he thinks it was all for him and his new found happiness...May be that is not the case Rishabh Kundra. God has other plans for you two together...

Read it in full here

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/73371542

Though, those who are asking for the 7 phera marriage have already read my post...so they are still dreaming about it...No girls...you need the two to let them understand why they met like that and what each means to the other over the larger canvas.

We all know why Rishabh Kundra loves Madhu. We have his clearly expressed WHY's.

Can anyone tell me...why Madhu loves Rishabh Kundra ? Once I was discussing with Zoya at length and we both felt the sadness that RK still doesn't know that if Madhu loves him like he loves in purpose. She is just devoted...and that doesn't mean anything when the two souls are living in the material world. Devotion can be punctured and tested all the time with misunderstanding by any force that is antagonistic to their wishes.

This mystery of why Madhu loves RK is so encouraged in the storyline to keep the element of surprise.

This is the reason why we the viewers were purposefully not made privy to Madhu's love letter.

This is the reason why RK does not allow Madhu to tell her that she too loves him in the confession track. He just asks her to keep quiet and then seals her love with his kiss...and he wants her to come away with him just like that.

This is the reason why the story writers make RK keep asking his wife to trust him, believe in him, come away with him, have a 7 phera marriage. When do you beat drums like this ? When its not gonna happen...

And Shridevi finally says...for one silly consummation track, I don't want the story to be sacrificed. I need to know...just like the story writers showed me the promise...there needs to be a bigger reason why the two met in such an unprecedented fashion.

Marriage is just one sort of bond to be together...it gives a lot of scope for them to be together in the soap world of present times.

May be the makers had ideas like AA in her FF writes...to make MB his make up artist and then bring them together and have them married like Shantaram and Sandhya...and RK mentoring her to become actress...but that original premise gone...now I need to know the meaning for their being together now inspite of the incomplete marriage they have. The CVs just need to justify the soul of the love story to me and 7 phera marriage is not the answer in current circumstances.

Love your perspective here Shri...I completely agree with you. To add to the point you are making...this is the best of both worlds from a story perspective. They are married from a legal/social perspective but they are not married from thier mindset perspective. While this affords them all sorts of rights over each other publically and there are no fingers pointed at them yet both have to deal with insecurities of thier relationship and yearning in private.

Makes for an interesting situation between a couple who are both so passionate in thier outlooks and are crazily in love with each other.

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Sore point:
I have been trying to ignore this for past few episodes, but after pondering over Saturday's episode I could not. Cvs need to keep in mind that RK has not yet left his super stardom and still is a Superstar. They need to convincingly portray it at least in 2-3 episodes a week. It was utterly foolish with them showing that RK himself was running around Mumbai bus stations to look for Malik. What kind of a superstar he is to move around in public places with such ease with no bodyguards around ever?(I assume when they introduced him as Superstar RK, it meant he is of the stature of SRK, Salman etc.). Why doesn't he ever go for outdoor shoots and shoots only in Natraj studio?

I think who we saw who went in search of Malik was not RK the superstar but Rishabh the damad who went to find his sasur. While interacting with Madhu's family we are now witnessing these little glimpses of Rishabh which is quite endearing I think.

Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

Kitna pyara aur khush lag raha hai aaj yeh parivar!! Chashme Baddoor!!!

Let's celebrate the fact that RK ko ek naya parivar mil gaya hai. Jo uski zindagi mein kami thi woh aaj puri ho gayi hai. We are all happy for you RK!!! You have a family and love of your life(aka Madhu!!). Your life i now complete!!! Don't go creating any more waves!! Just enjoy this bliss!!! Because you see, later on, we don't want to hear you sing "Tasveer banata hu tasveer nahin banti" 😃

Ballu aaj ke episode per chha gaya. Muwwaahh!!!!
Kaise tilmila raha tha seeing Trishna, Padmini and Madhu one after the other. He is now blind with rage ki bis baras pehle usko Padmini ne kaise ullu banaya. I think he is more angry by this deception rather than seeing them actually alive. Abhi to bas revenge ki aag mein aise jal raha hai jaise there is no tomorrow. Unfortunately his ammaji (his mother?) is no more alive to guide him in his koot karasthan. He will have to plan this revenge all by himself.
A slight gotcha in his dialogue though - When the wife dies before husband, husband becomes "Vidhur" and not "Vidhawa".

Tasveer ek aise parivar ki jo ane wali khushi ki aahat se khush ho raha hain. Us parivar ke kisi bhi sadasya ko aane wale tufan ki halki si bhi khabar nahi. It is very interesting to note that RK who directed Malik parivar ki zindagiya (starting with Madhu), has brought them together and will now inadvertantly be responsible for inviting this evil named Ballu into the same parivar which will visit them after a gap of 20 years. Dekhna yeh hai ki is aane wale tufan mein kiske pair jamin per rah jahe hai aur kon bah jaha hai.

Lagta hai Padmini ki shadi badi dhamakedar hone wali hai...

To @0-SD-0

Excellent post!! Really liked it.

Can anyone tell me...why Madhu loves Rishabh Kundra ?

Thought provoking question. Just my 2 cents here for what it is worth.

Does Madhu love Rishabh Kundra or does she revere RK the superstar? From what I understand, it all started when she realized that he knew all along who was behind the attack on him and he still let him go. I think she just worships him no questions asked, not loves him. In the love there is give and take. With Madhu it is only give.

You are right. In the confession scene we don't know why she loves him. She proclaims she just does and can't express how much. She did come across a bit tongue tied, weak in there. All the passion was expressed on his side, not hers.

Maybe as you say keeping this 7 pheras incomplete is a right move till CVs reveal some clues about this.

Good read...

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Re...The 7 phere completion required for consummation of the marriage.

From the viewer perspective, without 7 phere, we are not going to get to see consummation. So be done with it CVs.

Shridevi says...I hardly care whether CVs want to show 7 pheras completed or not. Because consummation is just one night love making and that too on TV, they will not show it. But for the show, it is the mirage/oasis as depends on what CVs want to show in the end. It will create the promise and thus viewer will be glued to watch the show until it is shown. And I am not going to fall to that bait. No way !!!

Plus how is that actually helping the CVs in writing scenes romantically aftewards. No change. They will continue to have same romantic scenes as now...only difference is they will not yearningly speak of wanting to melt in each others arms, or show desire and restraint and talk of dreams of having children...which is then making consummation done as actually a minus point for them. They will have an uphill task to create a beautiful romance once consummation is achieved. And no matter what seperation is induced, the magic is lost as viewers already would have the cathartic feeling.

RK and Madhu perspective...yes we want 7 pheron waali shaadi because we want to start our conjugal life in all propriety.

Shridevi says - I bless you my dear RK and MB. Just schedule it and i will grace the occasion with my presence and give you mu blessings. My dear, you deserve all the happiness. And I really would love to see junior RK and junior MB in RK dream fashion.

Story dicates - there is an inherent opposition to this dream.

Shridevi says - I concur.

As I explained in my yesterday's post.

By the end of Karva Chauth track, the 4 phera marriage loses its icy edge of having to be isolated from each other in thought; though conjoined as always. It gets the feeling, the warm feeling that starts to melt each other in the relationship they have. They both are happy to realize that they like each other and they start being happy about unexplored things about themselves...like MB falling in love to the point of effacing herself in his presence...like Rishabh knowing that he is still the feeling man and surprisingly it does not hurt him...

However what Rishabh Kundra again does not understand is what does it all mean ? There needs to have some meaning there ? Why did they have to meet in such gory manner ? Was it just for him to realize that he can love...yet again ? He can have something for himself ? Nowdays he is vacillating between being a happy and an insecure man...because he truly doesn't know why MB had been destined to be made part of his life. Even we don't know...Let's see where it goes... For now he thinks it was all for him and his new found happiness...May be that is not the case Rishabh Kundra. God has other plans for you two together...

Read it in full here

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/73371542

Though, those who are asking for the 7 phera marriage have already read my post...so they are still dreaming about it...No girls...you need the two to let them understand why they met like that and what each means to the other over the larger canvas.

We all know why Rishabh Kundra loves Madhu. We have his clearly expressed WHY's.

Can anyone tell me...why Madhu loves Rishabh Kundra ? Once I was discussing with Zoya at length and we both felt the sadness that RK still doesn't know that if Madhu loves him like he loves in purpose. She is just devoted...and that doesn't mean anything when the two souls are living in the material world. Devotion can be punctured and tested all the time with misunderstanding by any force that is antagonistic to their wishes.

This mystery of why Madhu loves RK is so encouraged in the storyline to keep the element of surprise.

This is the reason why we the viewers were purposefully not made privy to Madhu's love letter.

This is the reason why RK does not allow Madhu to tell her that she too loves him in the confession track. He just asks her to keep quiet and then seals her love with his kiss...and he wants her to come away with him just like that.

This is the reason why the story writers make RK keep asking his wife to trust him, believe in him, come away with him, have a 7 phera marriage. When do you beat drums like this ? When its not gonna happen...

And Shridevi finally says...for one silly consummation track, I don't want the story to be sacrificed. I need to know...just like the story writers showed me the promise...there needs to be a bigger reason why the two met in such an unprecedented fashion.

Marriage is just one sort of bond to be together...it gives a lot of scope for them to be together in the soap world of present times.

May be the makers had ideas like AA in her FF writes...to make MB his make up artist and then bring them together and have them married like Shantaram and Sandhya...and RK mentoring her to become actress...but that original premise gone...now I need to know the meaning for their being together now inspite of the incomplete marriage they have. The CVs just need to justify the soul of the love story to me and 7 phera marriage is not the answer in current circumstances.