Episode 163 Discussion: 7th Jan 2013

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#51

watched the episode finally.

Life mein Twist isliye Kahani mein Twirl

That's what Balraj is bringing onto the table and I guess, we should all welcome the twirl as the kahani for us needed really a twist with it becoming too sweet. 😆

The episode was not much except

Family Picture Taking and Exhibition to Balraj
Radha (The Gatekeeper) being yet again the spokeswoman to advise RK and Madhu to complete their saat phere along with Padmini and Shamsher.
Balraj vengeance unleashed.
What takes the cake is Balraj's dialogues. 👏

When he first sees the exhibition at the Chawl...this is how he gets clean bowled.

Roma ==> "Aunty" [Me: 😆]

Shamsher ==> "Pehelwaan"😲

Trishna ==> "Pehelwaan ko apna baap bolti hai" 😕

Padmini ==> looking at her mangalsutra and her sindhoor..."hamaare naam ka pahna hai...pehelwaan se shaadi...kya confusion hai" 😕

history ki mystery clear ho rahi hai 😆

RK ==>Yeh bhi shaamil hai is family main ? [Me: 😆]

Madhu ==> Vinaashbala

By the end of the episode when he devises his plan to kill his Vinaashbala, this is what we get to hear...

Padmini ==> Kulta kalankini ...alag hi love story

"Main Tulsi Tere Aangan ki Pehelwaanjee, Badli karli maine saajan ki Pehelwaanjee"🤣

Shamsher becomes a saand from Pehelwaan

"Madhubala nahin - main dooba saala, Balraj ki vinaashbala" 🤣

Asides

Where did get that picture of Madhubala from ? That was from Mata ki Chowki pooja. And it still has the caption of some old times ? Where did that clipping come from ?

RK ko Giraftaar karaate karaate

Madhubala ka dil...RK ke giraft mein

So finally we have one person saying per storyline that Madhubala is ATI KHABSURAT...Meri Bitiya...

Same carpet design that is present in RK's room.👎🏼

RK -Madhu -Radha - dining table scene -- It did not strike any chord in my heart. Was not needed.

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Contrary to the disappointment felt by some, BALRAJ is very much retained from his original Character Scoping and now he has been Improved. The old flavor is Balraj is still retained. He used to consider himself Bhagwaan then and now he calls himself Bhagwan Shaitan Choudhary. But he is also milder due to his losses over the years.

The story writers went back to original episodes and bringing the same Balraj. Yesterday too when I was watching the initial episodes, Balraj was comical, disgusting, serious, evil and idiotic. He is a mix of everything. So this Balraj is being correct...and actually the man is no longer in his prime of life, and as old person with seeing so much loss, he will definitely turn into a nervous guy.

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hansa22

@hansa22

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Posted: 12 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Sincerely hoping that whatever happens of Balraj's plan to murder, Madhu's and RK's 7-ferey wedding gets done soon.😳

Do not want the stardom track commencing with Madhu an aadhhi-adhhoori wife to distract from the stardom and probable Pygmalion-Galatea track.

Let the wedding get done, the conjugal relationship firmly established, and then the focus properly on Madhu becoming a star.😊

Leaving the marriage incomplete right now raises the spectre of leaving the stardom track halfbaked midway to skip back and forth.😕

Let each track get through to its point, and *then* segue to join into the next track.😃

Been waiting for the romance and stardom tracks, and would really like to be able to enjoy each in full.😳

The romance will be an integral part throughout😳, but the stardom track needs to have the focus at least for a while (with the romance serving as backdrop rather than battling out for track primacy).😊

And an incomplete wedding is just going to leave the couple's focus - individually and together - exasperatingly splintered.😕

@bold - Leela...the whole 7 phere thing, you hit the nail on the head. the stardom track is a huge one, capable of lasting a year. Imagine the ramifications for every relationship in MBEIEJ...

The reason why I'm also going on and on about the marriage is that the heroine track should not get diluted with the 7 phere unrequited romance track. This whole consummation track, waiting for it, has been done to death in every other serial. Why can't we have a normal complete marriage and hazaar other tracks!! Acc to me, the romance track is peripheral to the actual story, rise of madhu the star.

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hansa22

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Posted: 12 years ago

#53

Madhu in love!!? Why, how?? Don't think she thinks about the whole issue too much. One thing is clear, she is in love with RK, with all that he has done for her family, she now worships him.

I kind of understand her state of mind. Because very recently met a girl like her. A 22 year old, sister of one of my friends...educated, protected but not dumb. This girl, got engaged last year while she was still studying, in fact she had exams the day after her wedding!! She was so content just being in love. She lost interest in a job, all she did was learn to cook, keep house. much to the irritation of her sister, her mother who are all career women!! She was just happy 'being in love' or being in love with the idea of being in love'.

Chatting with her, I felt like such a cynical, harsh woman of the world, then i attributed my reactions to my age and experience😊. And I thought, good for her!!

So yes, what I'm trying to say is there are girls like that who just become catatonic in love! And I kind of feel sorry for Madhu, because she is going to get her knocks in life...a father who is planning to kill her, a complicated, loose cannon, semi husband. Despite knowing Dipali is RK's ex, she has never been insecure or jealous of her, now she will realise that RK actually cared about Dipali's opinion enough to challenge his love. I cannot forgive RK for that, it was not mature behaviour at all, considering the kind of person he knows Dipali is, and considering he is supposed to hate her. He is not able to be indifferent to her. Why? this whole MU coming up should also teach him a lesson or two. No third person can enter a relationship/marriage without permission from the couple.

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Zorica

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Posted: 12 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: Soundarya22
Madhu in love!!? Why, how?? Don't think she thinks about the whole issue too much. One thing is clear, she is in love with RK, with all that he has done for her family, she now worships him.
I kind of understand her state of mind. Because very recently met a girl like her. A 22 year old, sister of one of my friends...educated, protected but not dumb. This girl, got engaged last year while she was still studying, in fact she had exams the day after her wedding!! She was so content just being in love. She lost interest in a job, all she did was learn to cook, keep house. much to the irritation of her sister, her mother who are all career women!! She was just happy 'being in love' or being in love with the idea of being in love'.
Chatting with her, I felt like such a cynical, harsh woman of the world, then i attributed my reactions to my age and experience😊. And I thought, good for her!!

So yes, what I'm trying to say is there are girls like that who just become catatonic in love! And I kind of feel sorry for Madhu, because she is going to get her knocks in life...a father who is planning to kill her, a complicated, loose cannon, semi husband. Despite knowing Dipali is RK's ex, she has never been insecure or jealous of her, now she will realise that RK actually cared about Dipali's opinion enough to challenge his love. I cannot forgive RK for that, it was not mature behaviour at all, considering the kind of person he knows Dipali is, and considering he is supposed to hate her. He is not able to be indifferent to her. Why? this whole MU coming up should also teach him a lesson or two. No third person can enter a relationship/marriage without permission from the couple.

Soundarya,

Bravo! 👏
The whole post is great, especially this bold! 👍🏼

Regarding Dipali: I think RK wanted to hurt Dipali , and he wanted to prove to her that in his life now there is someone who truly loves him. Their conversation was initiated him to profess his love for Madhu on rashly and dramatic way.

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RSP04

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Posted: 12 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: Soundarya22
Madhu in love!!? Why, how?? Don't think she thinks about the whole issue too much. One thing is clear, she is in love with RK, with all that he has done for her family, she now worships him.
I kind of understand her state of mind. Because very recently met a girl like her. A 22 year old, sister of one of my friends...educated, protected but not dumb. This girl, got engaged last year while she was still studying, in fact she had exams the day after her wedding!! She was so content just being in love. She lost interest in a job, all she did was learn to cook, keep house. much to the irritation of her sister, her mother who are all career women!! She was just happy 'being in love' or being in love with the idea of being in love'.
Chatting with her, I felt like such a cynical, harsh woman of the world, then i attributed my reactions to my age and experience😊. And I thought, good for her!!

So yes, what I'm trying to say is there are girls like that who just become catatonic in love! And I kind of feel sorry for Madhu, because she is going to get her knocks in life...a father who is planning to kill her, a complicated, loose cannon, semi husband. Despite knowing Dipali is RK's ex, she has never been insecure or jealous of her, now she will realise that RK actually cared about Dipali's opinion enough to challenge his love. I cannot forgive RK for that, it was not mature behaviour at all, considering the kind of person he knows Dipali is, and considering he is supposed to hate her. He is not able to be indifferent to her. Why? this whole MU coming up should also teach him a lesson or two. No third person can enter a relationship/marriage without permission from the couple.

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MarathiMulgi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: Soundarya22
Madhu in love!!? Why, how?? Don't think she thinks about the whole issue too much. One thing is clear, she is in love with RK, with all that he has done for her family, she now worships him.
Despite knowing Dipali is RK's ex, she has never been insecure or jealous of her, now she will realise that RK actually cared about Dipali's opinion enough to challenge his love. I cannot forgive RK for that, it was not mature behaviour at all, considering the kind of person he knows Dipali is, and considering he is supposed to hate her. He is not able to be indifferent to her. Why? this whole MU coming up should also teach him a lesson or two. No third person can enter a relationship/marriage without permission from the couple.

I like your take. Especially RK-Dipali one.
Though while reading it I realized that bandook abhi bhi Madhu ke kandhe per hi hai. Chalanewala badal gaya hai. Rmemeber Mukund's aai fired it at RK from Madhu's shoulder? Now I think RK is firing it at Dipali.

To be in love with the idea of being in love is dangerously delusional to one's mental health,

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: Soundarya22

@bold - Leela...the whole 7 phere thing, you hit the nail on the head. the stardom track is a huge one, capable of lasting a year. Imagine the ramifications for every relationship in MBEIEJ...
The reason why I'm also going on and on about the marriage is that the heroine track should not get diluted with the 7 phere unrequited romance track. This whole consummation track, waiting for it, has been done to death in every other serial. Why can't we have a normal complete marriage and hazaar other tracks!! Acc to me, the romance track is peripheral to the actual story, rise of madhu the star.

And I am working off the premise that Romance is the core to the story and every other track is peripheral...as in every other track should be impacting their love story,either bringing them together or drawing them apart. It shall also be an individual journey for either as seen through the other's eyes.

Anyways, I am not the person who is calling the shots or want to be that way. If it is plausible for a 7 phera track to get established, then I accept. Infact I said that logical progression to KC track from the mind of Rishabh Kundra was a 7 phera marriage track. But the CVs nailed the coffin to 7 phera marriage track by adding Love confession track mixed with Test of Love theme. That's where it went wrong or rather purposefully derailed. And now with Balraj entry and his vowing to kill on the same day they might take the pheras is not sending the positive signals when the couple's sole purpose of being married is to be blessed.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: Soundarya22
Madhu in love!!? Why, how?? Don't think she thinks about the whole issue too much. One thing is clear, she is in love with RK, with all that he has done for her family, she now worships him.
I kind of understand her state of mind. Because very recently met a girl like her. A 22 year old, sister of one of my friends...educated, protected but not dumb. This girl, got engaged last year while she was still studying, in fact she had exams the day after her wedding!! She was so content just being in love. She lost interest in a job, all she did was learn to cook, keep house. much to the irritation of her sister, her mother who are all career women!! She was just happy 'being in love' or being in love with the idea of being in love'.
Chatting with her, I felt like such a cynical, harsh woman of the world, then i attributed my reactions to my age and experience😊. And I thought, good for her!!

So yes, what I'm trying to say is there are girls like that who just become catatonic in love! And I kind of feel sorry for Madhu, because she is going to get her knocks in life...a father who is planning to kill her, a complicated, loose cannon, semi husband. Despite knowing Dipali is RK's ex, she has never been insecure or jealous of her, now she will realise that RK actually cared about Dipali's opinion enough to challenge his love. I cannot forgive RK for that, it was not mature behaviour at all, considering the kind of person he knows Dipali is, and considering he is supposed to hate her. He is not able to be indifferent to her. Why? this whole MU coming up should also teach him a lesson or two. No third person can enter a relationship/marriage without permission from the couple.

Just so that I put a closure to the discussion that I started from my point of view...

The tug of her heart is when Rishabh fell down with bullet wound is what triggered the love=Submission feeling for Madhu towards him. And she surrendered and submitted himself to her by lakeside (post Shamsher revelation act).
However, it is after the submission that, her pareshaan pareshaan feeling of being in love with RK started. All I am asking is give me the verbalization of what draws her to Rishabh. The story writers and RK caused Madhu not to reveal the reasons of her loving Rishabh to us (the love letter effort wasted and Rishabh asking her not to talk during love confession). So basicall...what I am saying is Madhu has her reasons of loving RK, just that we the viewers have not been told and RK by choice let it be mystery to him. May be he likes it that way. But not me. And to keep the suprise element in tact, the writers add angles and expressions to Madhu character that make it more mysterious...yet to unravel kind.

So pyaar (apart from submission, devotion) is there...kyon hai...we don't know yet.

If Pyaar (love) was equivalent to Devotion, then I did mention earlier devotion and it being punctured and tested time and again, because it has to be in principle. Why still then pose the question of why Madhu loves RK or why being upset that RK chose to test Madhu...because...is it really possible to marry ur God? No. For in marriage even the man needs more than just submission. So unless Madhu is the Goddess herself, Madhu cannot marry Rishabh the God.

I am reserving my own thoughts for now. After MU track and few romance sessions, let's figure out what Madhu actually feels for RK. Coz as a woman to man, she needs to develop without which their marriage will not be successful.

Look at Padmini, she looks human and woman in every manner. Not so Madhu. She appears quite unresolved and immature. My focus in coming days, once VD comes back from vacation, will be watching Madhu's love as well...as I expected a marriage first as I was thinking love and passion will be developed/professed/confessed later. CVs broke that order.

My another problem with Madhu is where is the line that she draws when to submit him and when to lecture him. For ex: now take her pushing him to reconcile with his mother. Would you coax your God to do something like that ?

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago