Rishbala - Love-confessing, reasoning, and effects - Page 2

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-33

wow awesome analysis

Thanks a ton, dear.😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely post!

You say that these two don't know how not to be in love with each other any more. And therein I think lies the way out of this gnarled mess of junooni love, despair, fear, ill-wishes and badduas.

It looks like Madhu is going to fail the 'test'. Her responses not appropriate for the strict proforma RK has in mind. 1) She must say, yes, I will go away with you and damn the world and 2) she must somehow call him Rishabh.

But will the makers of this series let the hated vamp have the last laugh? Will Madhu not discover the RK's mind has been deliberately, maliciously disturbed by the one woman who is privy to his deepest fears? Will she at least not tackle Dipali for upsetting her husband, dredging up the past?

The world has ganged up against them, assuring them that they can never have 'EVERYTHING' - all this fame, wealth, izzat... and true love on top of it! Choose! This is what Rishbala were told. WE know the world is a jealous B**CH - they will realise it as well.

Will Madhu, after she has shed the tears she must shed over a love-confession gone so wrong, not raise her chin and defy the world and all qayanat to keep her love from her?

Will Rishabh not wake up to the fact that his instincts THIS time are acute and accurate? Will he not simply REALISE that Madhu loves him. What could be even better, IMO, is his realisation that HE loves her. And not even BEING LOVED matters when you love so much. It doesn't matter whether she loves him or not, which version she loves, how much, for what reasons, what she will do for that love. These calculations have no part in it. He needs to acknowledge and accept only his part - he loves her.

And there is nothing that can keep them apart after that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful analysis Leela.👏 Agree to everthing you said. Rishabh- Madhu no longer know how not love each other or live without each other. So whatever mess anyone creates by playing with their fears or cursing them will only be temporary. They will always find each other and fall back together.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Updated my 2 cents 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble

Lovely post!


You say that these two don't know how not to be in love with each other any more. And therein I think lies the way out of this gnarled mess of junooni love, despair, fear, ill-wishes and badduas.

It looks like Madhu is going to fail the 'test'. Her responses not appropriate for the strict proforma RK has in mind. 1) She must say, yes, I will go away with you and damn the world and 2) she must somehow call him Rishabh.

But will the makers of this series let the hated vamp have the last laugh? Will Madhu not discover the RK's mind has been deliberately, maliciously disturbed by the one woman who is privy to his deepest fears? Will she at least not tackle Dipali for upsetting her husband, dredging up the past?

The world has ganged up against them, assuring them that they can never have 'EVERYTHING' - all this fame, wealth, izzat... and true love on top of it! Choose! This is what Rishbala were told. WE know the world is a jealous B**CH - they will realise it as well.

Will Madhu, after she has shed the tears she must shed over a love-confession gone so wrong, not raise her chin and defy the world and all qayanat to keep her love from her?

Will Rishabh not wake up to the fact that his instincts THIS time are acute and accurate? Will he not simply REALISE that Madhu loves him. What could be even better, IMO, is his realisation that HE loves her. And not even BEING LOVED matters when you love so much. It doesn't matter whether she loves him or not, which version she loves, how much, for what reasons, what she will do for that love. These calculations have no part in it. He needs to acknowledge and accept only his part - he loves her.

And there is nothing that can keep them apart after that.
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@ Bold ...So perfect ...They need to defy every single challenge, be it a curse or any verbal venom, to stand together for each other. 😳 Dips I somehow feel is going to get something really big from Madhu, considering Madhu's stern warning to her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful analysis. Leela.👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manonids

its such a long post Leela ...😲...how do u manage to write so much in a single go...😲


You have put them together so perfectly ...😊...They are meant to be together, no matter even if the world conspires against them. Dips/Trishna are mere challenges in their life ahead and they have to beat them in their own way, thereby clearing the test for each other, more than for their own self 😳

Thanks so very much for liking it, Nids.😊 Love your take on Rishbala.Embarrassed
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

After the ep. 12th Dec. 2012, I really *really* wish Madhu would have confessed her feelings first and RK verbalize his reciprocation after at least a few days to accept the depth of that good fortune.😳

Madhu's confession would be love tainted only with the fear that it might not be reciprocated.😳

RK's confession is going to be with the *hope* that he is right that she already loves him, but tainted far more in weight than that fragile hope - with the expectation of betrayal and faithlessness.

(If hope were to win out against that fearful expectation, he might well collapse with the second blow to his heart after the first of the bullet - this one would be of joyful shock.😳😆

So just as well that misunderstanding win out over renunciation.😊 Otherwise the track would be changed from RK being a star already and Madhu *becoming* a star to instead RK and Madhu both withdrawing from stardom.😕 No, thank you.😊)

This was *not* a situation of Dips successfully goading RK.

Even a beggar off the street knowing enough to say the exact same words would have ignited RK's insecurities and fears just as successfully.

The love of both Madhu and RK is genuine and beyond the point where they might emotionally draw back from the precipice.😳

The feelings of both for each other are like the ocean, most of it fathoms deep and out of sight.😊

Neither would wish to be explaining every wretched vulnerability that they feel in regards to their love for the other.

The depth of Madhu's feelings we have seen in her unconscious decisions and prioritizing of RK above everyone else.

But RK himself has never been privy to any of that.

He did not know - and still does not - how completely Madhu deprioritized Mallick for him. He told Bittuji that Madhu had kept quiet on seeing Mallick's locket to protect her father.

He believes Madhu loves him because she is a nice conservative girl who would find it natural - given growing conducive circumstances - to be devoted and loyal to her husband in order to make the marriage work.

The junooni samarpan of her love he has no idea about.

He told Madhu that he was betrayed by Radha and Dipali, but he understated the case enormously in both instances, and he could therefore not hold Madhu responsible for playing respectful bahu and devrani to the two women.

It was ironically yet more evidence that his sanskaari wife had fostered her relationship and affection for her husband in similar fashion.

After all, pati and sasuraal are two cornerstones that Madhu would like to care for and be cared for by.

Has there ever been a moment that any actions of Madhu's that RK has witnessed - even the tenderness in her eyes - would have appeared independent of her being married to him?

She thinks of him as the Rishabh he used to be, accepts the RK he has become, and loves him in entirety. But when has he ever had an inkling of that?

He has repeatedly seen the empathy in her eyes, shied away from it as pity and finally accepted it as sympathy.

Had she distanced herself visibly from the four people in the house, it would have been obvious as empathy.

But she did not because he was not clear enough in his account to goad her into such a course.

We have seen repeatedly by now that Madhu becomes utterly disregarding of any filial or social bounds in dealing with any person that she believes hurt RK.

It matters little whether RK understands this for the protective encompassing devotion of her love for him, or whether he mistakes it for sympathy with near-similar responses.

Either way, he could use it as a weapon. He has the tune at hand to make Madhu act as he would wish. He has never employed that power.

Had he told Madhu of the importance of the photographs when she first uttered the blackmail threat, he could have ridden her then and there with a shamed guilt that would have lowered her in her own esteem. He chose not to tell Madhu, and instead opted for the humiliation of repeatedly apologizing to Padmini.

Even in the matter of the Bhatias and especially Radha, he could sit Madhu down and tell her of a few heart-tugging moments - I do not believe he would need to manufacture such - and Madhu's reaction to Radha whom she has only held in affection for a few months would outstrip even her anger towards Mallick whom she has idolized all her life.

RK has chosen not to, and came to accept her continued association with Radha, even accepting her defending that mother because his only way to stop her would have been to reveal yet more vulnerabilities and childhood hurts to her.

And lastly, in the matter of Dipali. Again, RK was nearly clinical in speaking of Dipali's jilting of him. He never spoke of the slights that would assuredly have been involved in having to accept her as his stepbrother's wife, her turnround after she and Sikki flopped dismally in showbiz, or the extent of the sordid attempts to win him back.

This is rather like going for a pleasant walk with someone without telling them that you have debilitating injuries. If the walk gets painful, you can either tell them that you're hurting and why or you can grit and bear it.

RK opts for the latter as far as possible, and only chooses the former after it's too late to be of use.

His pride does not permit of using a genuine vulnerability of his, not even to win.

So it's almost terrifying that Madhu has finally become dearer to him than his pride.

His hope that she truly loves him as a person - not his stardom or his wealth - is driving him into a test that will try him far worse than Madhu.

The RK who repeatedly apologized to Padmini rather than tell Madhu that the happy photographs with his deceased father were taken a few hours before the latter's death is now willing to leave his heart bare in front of Madhu.

Completely unaware of the quality and exceptional depth of her love, this very proud man is nevertheless staking his pride and heart both on the hope that her loyalty and love as a wife would be content without the material trappings that make him of such worth to his 'family'.

If she fails that hope however inadvertently, he may believe his faith and hope mistaken yet again, and retreat into the harshness that does not leave him vulnerable.

This misunderstanding - if there *is* one - may yet be the making of them both in more ways than one.

Happiness in proven true love - quite apart from totalling the stardom track if RK stuck with the intent to opt for a simple life with Madhu - would have had Madhu lost in a blissful dreamworld and RK setting aside his own defences to float among the clouds with her.

And the thought of *both* of them being so vulnerable and unwary just in time for Madhu's father Balraj to enter into their lives would be appalling. Terrifying actually.

Madhu has a lifetime to bask in the love of her eccentric husband.

Right now, she needs to start dealing with everyone the way she today dealt with Dipali - with a believably threatening warning, no socially fettering undeserved respect, unapologetically and *without backing down*.😊

With RK harsh and cold, it would be a clash between titans, him against Balraj. Not to mention the power of wealth and status. And most importantly, the fact that RK's default mode is defensive aggression.

Having to get *back* into fighting mode after powering down to enjoy the value-additions in life of trust, love and happiness - it would be a nightmare.

Balraj is not the sort of opponent you want to toughen up to face at the last moment. Better to keep harshness at status quo or at least in existence so that it doesn't have to be built up from scratch.

The priority in face of Balraj's upcoming entry should rather better be on preserving Madhu from her psychopathic biological parental unit.

And her husband - unsoftened by positivity and optimism - is the best person around to deal with her father.

Even in the throes of enmity, RK can tolerate no harm to her, and *that* is the need at this point.

Neither RK nor Madhu know any longer how not to be obsessively in love with each other.😳

They may go to considerable lengths at various points now and later trying to pretend and prove that it is no longer love.😕 I fully expect that idiocy from each on multiple occasions.😆

Nor should we ever expect these two tempestuous, hugely passionate individuals who are absolutely illogical in their emotions to *ever* be reasonable either in the depths that they will knowingly and unknowingly hurt each other, nor in the joy they bring each other with even the most minor of gestures.😳

Madhu and RK will get past whatever misunderstandings and debacles spice up their life now and later.😳

The Lord has been to a considerable amount of overwork first getting these two devotees of His together, then getting them to fall in love with each other, then getting them to *acknowledge* at least to themselves that they have fallen in love with each other.😳😆 Let's appreciate those three miracles for a while.😃

These two brought together under the Lord's aegis are unlikely to ever require less of divine effort on their part, but it beats a storyline somersault from filmworld to the world of mundane.😳

⭐️⭐️👏👏- words cannot express how lovely and insightful this post is- the subtle nuances it captures is amazing!
PS: Your insight on RK and Ballu is spot on! I don't think Ballu will know that Madhu is his daughter unless he sees Padmini, and I don't think that is likely to happen soon- so Ballu, Madhu, and RK's interactions will be amazing to see, especially since RK has no eminity to Ballu at this time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Oh..wow...that was a long post...!!
But absolutely amazing...!!

RishBala will always end up together...no matter what...!😳

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manonids


@ Bold ...So perfect ...They need to defy every single challenge, be it a curse or any verbal venom, to stand together for each other. 😳 Dips I somehow feel is going to get something really big from Madhu, considering Madhu's stern warning to her.


Yes, I feel this too! It was unusual in Madhu to go up and speak to her like that - and of course, she will find that Dips has hurt RK badly by raking up old wounds. But Madhu is bound by a decency that Dipali is not - so what will she do? Just intimidate the hell out of her?

And totally, Rishbala need to stand up together - how dare these people dictate what they can and cannot have? WHen, like Leelaa points out - it was Bappa Himself who brought them together?

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