Episode Discussion: 12th Oct 2012 - Page 6

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

Could the reason for RK sending away Madhu be that he finds out Dipali was the one behind all this and that the target was Madhu so RK sends her away so that she does not get harmed...

Ok i know this is just one of my hare-brained idea but couldn't prevent myself from posting it!!😃

And i couldn't help but grin when Bittuji was screaming that what do you mean by his heart has stopped functioning and Mads runs into the OT😃

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Frigging fantastic.⭐️ Ab-so-lute-ly *brilliant*.👏👏👏

Thats what I am saying about your post...

Madhu - the devout girl who thought RK was unreasonable to turn away from God after his father's death, and told him there must surely be some good even in that tragedy - today pretty much promised God that *she* would lose faith if He let RK die.

I didnt like that part, ok? Thats not how one should ask anything from God.. That was the only part in this episode that I didnt like

When RK's faith was restored, he received an unusual parting gift from his long-estranged friend Ganpati Bappa - Madhu's slow journey on the path to placing this man she's wedded to above God and every relationship in her life.

This is a girl who has never asked the Lord for anything, and just accepted that He would show her a way in every difficulty. However hurtful the path she found, she never asked for an easier way. She asked the Lord for strength always, and counted on her faith to make that strength enough.

But today, she finally crossed that Rubicon - for a man she has fought and yet become bonded to on a level that goes beyond coherence and thought, reason and logic.

until I reached this part.. 😃 I was feeling bad about that part bcos, when I made my post today, I hadnt watched the episode.. If I had watched that I would not have made my Faith post, bcos I didnt like the way Madhu bargained for RK's life.. Thank you for explaining this part.. I liked your analysis.. I now understand why, but I still dont like it! 😔 Anyway, I will console myself saying that Madhu was not merely asking for RK's life, but asking for her husband's life. For me that makes it ok.. Does that make me sound weird?

Today, she held onto her faith at her unbreathing husband's side - because if the Lord failed her, if He ignored what she had threatened and promised, she would lose both Him and her husband.

She would lose RK to his friend Bappa, and she herself would lose her faith in Him to the void of hurt of knowing the Lord she trusted absolutely had failed her when it mattered most.

What she had considered unreasonable in RK and made excuses to Bappa for, she had not the slightest qualm or hesitation in taking up the same approach.

How strange are the Lord's ways that in seeking to assuage the hurt of one beloved devotee and win him back, He was willing to watch another beloved devotee deprioritize Him in that other's favour.😊

@bold: Wow.. I love this line.. This is for this line alone: 👏 Lord works in mysterious ways.. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Today she faced off against the very Lord she has trusted no matter what until now - for a man she acknowledges only duty and commitment to, but feels for on the most inherent primal plane. And so too, she may someday have to face off against the mortals she adores and choose that man over them all, however much it may agonize her.

The day she does that, RK is hers alone!

She may hesitate and dither with mortals as she did not with Him. She may even perhaps choose them briefly. But will the Lord who has gone to such lengths to unite his two beloved devotees permit such qualms to weigh with her when push comes to shove? Really don't think so.

😃

Mallick is hot-tempered and dotes on his daughter. He landed in the hospital after trying to physically harm RK, in the process humiliating Bittuji by almost pulling his trousers off, and smashing sundry other people around.

When did that happen? I missed seeing the colour of his underpants!!! 😆

Bittuji's rage at the man was quite understandable for both the personal humiliation and the attempt to harm his 'Chief'. He overreacted much as Mallick had, and made physical violence a stick with which to beat the one who brought it in.

But would Mallick have been more restrained if he had free hand to harm RK? Would he not then have stopped short at the same point - just a little shy of killing?

That day he was understandably furious. But Malik as shooter... 🤔

And so, if the shooter Kukku hired to fake underworld connections did *not* shoot RK, why would it be unreasonable of RK to believe Shamsher is capable of such an action?

Shamsher's character is inclined to striking openly.

True... But it was not an open attack.. Granted it took place out in the open, but the shooter was hidden... During the other incident, Malik had openly challenged RK, came out to fight infront of everybody.. Everybody saw him.. Here no one saw the shooter.. Malik goes for open confrontations...

But would not a father believing his daughter to be enduring hyperbolic torture in a 'living hell' not be willing to set aside a lifetime's principles of courage and striking from the front to rather do whatever it takes to free her at the soonest from the 'nightmare' she was in?

I truly do not consider it to the detriment of Mallick's character as a righteous person, no matter whether he did shoot RK or not. Either option upholds a virtue. Either courage and integrity, or paternal protectiveness willing even to be murderous.

I refuse to believe that Malik is the shooter.. 😭 I like him!!! 😔

Also, there is RK - with a father who apparently took a coward's approach and killed himself, abandoning his wife and son to face the music, and a mother who believes her son to be at fault in every matter rather than admit even to herself that she erred grievously in the person she chose as her second husband and a father for Rishabh.

Will RK not to some extent understand the impulse driving a father who is proactively protective as Mohan Kundra apparently was not?

He already has reason to understand that Madhu's mother Padmini - RK's own saasuma - is nothing like his own mother Radha, though he does not yet wish to acknowledge this, perhaps for fear of examining yet another in his formidable repertoire of emotional hurts.

👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼

Today, in the scenes that overtly showcased faith, I saw yet another aspect of faith - that of Goddess Kali the Destroyer, whose rage once ignited could be stopped in its tracks only by her absolute love for her husband and her regard for him. Today, for a husband she does not love and yet could not countenance the thought of losing to the Lord they both adore, she was willing to turn away from that Lord if her first ever plea/demand were not met.

I did not understand the Kali reference...😳 She was angry, but she was angry with RK.. 😕

What of when she does love Rishabh? What lines will she not be willing to cross then?

I know what lines she will cross 😃- she will throw away the pillows that divides their bed every night.. 😆

Rishabh is becoming more caring, more protective, more gentle for her, but I doubt that she will ever cease to be his berserk button. And when he too becomes *her* berserk button, when she stands in his defence and support for all, what a formidable pairing they will make, capable of being buffetted only by each other and yet holding fast no matter what.

Wow.. What picture you present!!! Three cheers!!!

To see what misunderstandings may develop and where his ego may fail when he raises her up to stardom is going to be magnificent with such a love as the canvas on which the vision of ishq and junoon will emerge.

Me dying to watch that...

Brilliant brilliant brilliant post.. The best post I read today!!! 👏 👏 👏

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Per Live update ...

BIG RESPITE !!!!!!

Radhaji defends Madhu !!!!

Balle Balle !!! She is not so much of a dumb-witted woman !! What a relief !!!

And this is hilarious. Please forgive me for being insensitive if you think so ...

From Tanu's update.

Two option. ...Mouli -re-tying ...Madhu puts the flower in RK's hand and puts tilak on his forehead and chants Bappa Moriya

🤣 🤣

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

Could the reason for RK sending away Madhu be that he finds out Dipali was the one behind all this and that the target was Madhu so RK sends her away so that she does not get harmed...

Ok i know this is just one of my hare-brained idea but couldn't prevent myself from posting it!!😃

And i couldn't help but grin when Bittuji was screaming that what do you mean by his heart has stopped functioning and Mads runs into the OT😃

@bold: You could be right! Do you know what that means? To save Madhu, he is willing to risk his izzat!!! OMG!!!

reBittuji: That was a funny scene..

Originally posted by: PreetD

@Leelaa - I read your analysis earlier after I got back home and I have to say it was brilliant.

I was thinking about what you said about Malik and his anger since then, thank you for bringing that up. How would Madhu be able to reconcile this man that she's looked up to, he's her father in all the ways that count, with a man that tried to kill her husband? Would they go there? I mean regardless of her feelings and what we may want to make of her actions towards RK, she clearly cares for Rishabh and to find out that the most important man in her life tried to kill her husband, the man that's responsible for saving him. It would definitely open up the door as far as story and all the places this could go from here, amazing material for DD to work with most definitely.

I can't help but wonder if they would go here to be able to open up the possibility of allowing Madhu to love RK. What I mean is, a lot of people talked in the past about how they couldn't understand how Madhu would be able to fall in love with RK after everything he's done. Well here's a man she's discovering so many layers to, he's obviously more than the superstar he shows the world, and something has been kindled but for it to be allowed to develop into the epic love story this is shaping up to be she would need to completely forgive him for everything he has done. This in contrast to her dealing with the fact that her "father" tried to kill her husband. I don't know if I'm making sense here as it makes sense in my head but I find now I'm having trouble putting it into words. Basically it's setting up this journey of forgiveness. I mean some of the things that RK has done can be said to be unforgivable but at the same time he's done so many wonderful things too. Malik is so important to Madhu that she entered into a marriage that at the time was equivalent to her giving up her life, this man has tried to kill her husband, is that any less unforgivable?

I hope that's made some sense.