Episode Discussion: 12th Oct 2012

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Episode Discussion: 12th Oct 2012


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.
Today's LU from : -Armu4eva-


Many thanks to Tanu for providing us this live update. 😊

Note:
  • There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
  • Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
  • The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.

Cheers,
Shridevi

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Per Live update ...

BIG RESPITE !!!!!!

Radhaji defends Madhu !!!!
Balle Balle !!! She is not so much of a dumb-witted woman !! What a relief !!!


And this is hilarious. Please forgive me for being insensitive if you think so ...
From Tanu's update.
Two option. ...Mouli -re-tying ...Madhu puts the flower in RK's hand and puts tilak on his forehead and chants Bappa Moriya
🤣 🤣

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Per Live update ...


BIG RESPITE !!!!!!

Radhaji defends Madhu !!!!
Balle Balle !!! She not so much of a dumb-witted woman !! What a relief !!!



Yeah what e relief...Hopefully Dipz shuts her mouth now..😡

OMG did u see the precap...Someone else shot RK not the shooter that was hired by Kukuji,,

I just hope its not Malik😲... Pls CV's don;t do this..

Hima - maybe ur prediction will come true.. Deepali responsible for the shooting..😲


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Frigging fantastic.⭐️ Ab-so-lute-ly *brilliant*.👏👏👏 The gradual juxtaposition in some points in the character traits of Madhu and RK is mindblowing.
Madhu - the devout girl who thought RK was unreasonable to turn away from God after his father's death, and told him there must surely be some good even in that tragedy - today pretty much promised God that *she* would lose faith if He let RK die.
The subtleties in this Ganeshotsav track have been a trail of gems instead of breadcrumbs.😃
When RK's faith was restored, he received an unusual parting gift from his long-estranged friend Ganpati Bappa - Madhu's slow journey on the path to placing this man she's wedded to above God and every relationship in her life.😳
This is a girl who has never asked the Lord for anything, and just accepted that He would show her a way in every difficulty. However hurtful the path she found, she never asked for an easier way. She asked the Lord for strength always, and counted on her faith to make that strength enough.😊
But today, she finally crossed that Rubicon - for a man she has fought and yet become bonded to on a level that goes beyond coherence and thought, reason and logic.😳
And this is only the first time she will face such a Rubicon.
Today, she held onto her faith at her unbreathing husband's side - because if the Lord failed her, if He ignored what she had threatened and promised, she would lose both Him and her husband.
She would lose RK to his friend Bappa, and she herself would lose her faith in Him to the void of hurt of knowing the Lord she trusted absolutely had failed her when it mattered most.
What she had considered unreasonable in RK and made excuses to Bappa for, she had not the slightest qualm or hesitation in taking up the same approach.
How strange are the Lord's ways that in seeking to assuage the hurt of one beloved devotee and win him back, He was willing to watch another beloved devotee deprioritize Him in that other's favour.😊
'Tvameva matacha pita tvameva...' The prayer which states that the Lord is mother and father, sibling and friend. True indeed. Who but the one who is all relations would be willing to place His devotees' wellbeing so highly.
Today, what mattered more than the miracle of Rishabh being restored to life - more even than Rishabh acknowledging openly the faith he has never truly given up on, and setting aside his grudge against his divine friend - was Madhu taking that first major step away from the simple devout girl she has always been.
A girl who was straightforward, naively idealistic, and for whom her mother and foster father mattered immensely.
Today she faced off against the very Lord she has trusted no matter what until now - for a man she acknowledges only duty and commitment to, but feels for on the most inherent primal plane.
And so too, she may someday have to face off against the mortals she adores and choose that man over them all, however much it may agonize her.
That day may not be in the near future, but when it comes, will the girl who told Bappa so clearly that she would lose faith in Him if anything happened to RK truly take any other path?
She may hesitate and dither with mortals as she did not with Him. She may even perhaps choose them briefly. But will the Lord who has gone to such lengths to unite his two beloved devotees permit such qualms to weigh with her when push comes to shove? Really don't think so.
Another point which came up at the end of today's ep was the shooter. Articles have implied that Shamsher Mallick being suspected of shooting RK would lead to Madhu returning to her maayka.
Until the end of today's ep, it seemed assured that RK accepting Mallick as being to blame would be outlandish and unreasonable. But no longer.
Mallick is hot-tempered and dotes on his daughter. He landed in the hospital after trying to physically harm RK, in the process humiliating Bittuji by almost pulling his trousers off, and smashing sundry other people around.
Bittuji's rage at the man was quite understandable for both the personal humiliation and the attempt to harm his 'Chief'. He overreacted much as Mallick had, and made physical violence a stick with which to beat the one who brought it in.
But would Mallick have been more restrained if he had free hand to harm RK? Would he not then have stopped short at the same point - just a little shy of killing?
And so, if the shooter Kukku hired to fake underworld connections did *not* shoot RK, why would it be unreasonable of RK to believe Shamsher is capable of such an action?
Shamsher's character is inclined to striking openly.
But would not a father believing his daughter to be enduring hyperbolic torture in a 'living hell' not be willing to set aside a lifetime's principles of courage and striking from the front to rather do whatever it takes to free her at the soonest from the 'nightmare' she was in?
I truly do not consider it to the detriment of Mallick's character as a righteous person, no matter whether he did shoot RK or not. Either option upholds a virtue. Either courage and integrity, or paternal protectiveness willing even to be murderous.
It will shatter Madhu if she refuses to believe the accusation, and it finally turns out to be true. But she will surely at some point understand the emotions that would guide such an action.
Also, there is RK - with a father who apparently took a coward's approach and killed himself, abandoning his wife and son to face the music, and a mother who believes her son to be at fault in every matter rather than admit even to herself that she erred grievously in the person she chose as her second husband and a father for Rishabh.
Will RK not to some extent understand the impulse driving a father who is proactively protective as Mohan Kundra apparently was not?
He already has reason to understand that Madhu's mother Padmini - RK's own saasuma - is nothing like his own mother Radha, though he does not yet wish to acknowledge this, perhaps for fear of examining yet another in his formidable repertoire of emotional hurts.
Today, in the scenes that overtly showcased faith, I saw yet another aspect of faith - that of Goddess Kali the Destroyer, whose rage once ignited could be stopped in its tracks only by her absolute love for her husband and her regard for him.
Today, for a husband she does not love and yet could not countenance the thought of losing to the Lord they both adore, she was willing to turn away from that Lord if her first ever plea/demand were not met.
What of when she does love Rishabh? What lines will she not be willing to cross then?
Rishabh is becoming more caring, more protective, more gentle for her, but I doubt that she will ever cease to be his berserk button.
And when he too becomes *her* berserk button, when she stands in his defence and support for all, what a formidable pairing they will make, capable of being buffetted only by each other and yet holding fast no matter what.😳
To see what misunderstandings may develop and where his ego may fail when he raises her up to stardom is going to be magnificent with such a love as the canvas on which the vision of ishq and junoon will emerge.
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Frigging fantastic.⭐️ Ab-so-lute-ly *brilliant*.👏👏👏 The gradual juxtaposition in some points in the character traits of Madhu and RK is mindblowing.

Madhu - the devout girl who thought RK was unreasonable to turn away from God after his father's death, and told him there must surely be some good even in that tragedy - today pretty much promised God that *she* would lose faith if He let RK die.

The subtleties in this Ganeshotsav track have been a trail of gems instead of breadcrumbs.
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Leela,

I am quite proud of myself today. Look here what I said on Tuesday, 9th October. I know you did read that . But I am just so happy my friend !!! I need to repeat !!!

I don't think she will think from the point of a wife when she goes to pray to Ganesha to ask for his life. I don't think it will be for compassionate feeling for a dying man. I think it will be more for herself. She saw the man yielding to her will, opening up to her and finally subjecting himself to his friend+God...She sure will have questions now...like RK asks Ganesha...why ? If part of her beliefs were absorbed by him, part of his doubts should flow back to her. Else why that look? Else, how the balance is going to be restored by the man's surrender. This time she will have to ask God on his behalf, why does he do things the way he makes them happen.

Now that's my take. I don't know what CV's have in store.


Everyone else,
pls check this


And for subtleties of Ganesha track, please check this

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Frigging fantastic.⭐️ Ab-so-lute-ly *brilliant*.👏👏👏 The gradual juxtaposition in some points in the character traits of Madhu and RK is mindblowing.

Madhu - the devout girl who thought RK was unreasonable to turn away from God after his father's death, and told him there must surely be some good even in that tragedy - today pretty much promised God that *she* would lose faith if He let RK die.
The subtleties in this Ganeshotsav track have been a trail of gems instead of breadcrumbs.😃
When RK's faith was restored, he received an unusual parting gift from his long-estranged friend Ganpati Bappa - Madhu's slow journey on the path to placing this man she's wedded to above God and every relationship in her life.😳
This is a girl who has never asked the Lord for anything, and accepted that He would show her a way in every difficulty. However hurtful the path she found, she never asked for an easier way. She asked the Lord for strength always, and counted on her faith to make that strength enough.😊


Leela

I am with you Leela👏👏 Awesome... Cv's did justice to this Ganpati track.. Hats of to them..
It is really the everyday, often overlooked actions of deep kindness and caring that restore our faith in humanity and to God.,e veryday kindnesses like Madhu's caring words, reassuring words and a helping hand-up in times of trouble..



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Posted: 12 years ago
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SD, I've already read your posts on each of those links.😃 Excellent stuff.👏 Just let me finish here, and then I'll head on to every one of those.😃 The electricity is dicey, so posting in stages.
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Originally posted by: leelaa9


The subtleties in this Ganeshotsav track have been a trail of gems instead of breadcrumbs.😃
When RK's faith was restored, he received an unusual parting gift from his long-estranged friend Ganpati Bappa - Madhu's slow journey on the path to placing this man she's wedded to above God and every relationship in her life.😳
This is a girl who has never asked the Lord for anything, and just accepted that He would show her a way in every difficulty. However hurtful the path she found, she never asked for an easier way. She asked the Lord for strength always, and counted on her faith to make that strength enough.😊
But today, she finally crossed that Rubicon - for a man she has fought and yet become bonded to on a level that goes beyond coherence and thought, reason and logic.😳


Leela,

Is it your Leela that I am beaming wide here ?
Beautifully expressed the Maya of God!!! 👏 👏

I wanna just watch the show now, but I can't. I will have to wait until nightfall! Sigh!!!

I am sure there were lot of directorial flaws and screenplay errors!!

But I guess, we will not care at all today.

Wonderful story !!!! They are taking MB and RK story in steady manner with lots of developments at each stage.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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great parfrmance dd love u jaan.
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