Episode Discussion: 12th Oct 2012

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dramago

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Posted: 12 years ago

#101

Leela,SD...You girls rock.I am amazed at your in depth analyses...I am having a blast peeking now and then on a busy day...Thank you...😊

Leela...re your point of why Madhu didn't say to bappa that she would loose faith on him

when Shamsher was near death the way she did with RK inspite of the guilt factor on both occassions...My take...

Madhu did carry the guilt of being unintentionally responsible for Mallik's condition...But,the

source of her actions resulting in the guilt was her ideal of fighting for justice of an injured man...

In case of RK her guilt has its source in her and RK's conflict regarding the

faith on the power of bappa when you place yourself at his will...In a way she was fighting

on behalf of bappa...taking his side...Now when she sees that RK eventually

overcame all his resentment not by experiencing any miracle or sort but, because of sheer strength of pure Love he carries towards his friend...When this guy shouts Bappa's name in celabration of him with every breath in his body and gets shot at the very moment and falls at the very Lords feet it shook Madhu...it questioned her faith...questioned her stand in defending Bappa ...so,she challenges her Lord to prove that her faith in him is right, to prove that he indeed is worthy of the prayers,trust and Love one holds for him...They say that a devotee with their power of Love and Faith can even force the Lord to change the destiny...and that is what happened...

Why Madhu didn't do the same for Shamsher...Well,the point leading to it was not ones faith on and the Power of Bappa where as in RK's case its precisely that...RK set aside his pride,his anger and gave into Bappa so,the onus to prove himself lied with Bappa...otherwise he might loose her...

Would she have really lost faith if RK was not resurrected...??? well I think no...

she would have just gone through the same phase as RK...angry and resentfull

towards Bappa until one day when she eventually gives up her fight and gives in to her love for bappa and to bappas love for her...so,did she place RK above GOd...I think no...but,probably in the same plane as her mother and Mallik...😉😊..I feel both Madhu and RK are very similar in their reactions many times only difference is what pushes their buttons...that's it.

Uff..It took quite some time and work for me to put my points across as my English language vocabulary is quite limited ...hope I made sense...😊

Edited by himbin - 12 years ago

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Shridevi Gaddam

@0-SD-0

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Posted: 12 years ago

#102

Leela,

Should share this with you. I was trying to collect my posts that seem to be scattered everywhere and I found this. written on 5th Sep. 😆 Helps to let us know the story is being consistently told by the CVs 😊

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/64487111�

I am sorry for becoming such a seemingly callous person. However what makes me write like this, inspite of all that pain and need for vendetta, a certain degree of logic should prevail within the protagonists to make them ask what's happening and why its happening. MB has conveniently forgotten to thank the benefactor who helped her in winning her round. That causes her to go down for Event 3. And yet, she may win in all round sympathy factor for losing everything that she cares for. But what she clearly fails to understand is it her who is dogging RK and making him bring out his darker side. To begin with it was never RK who planned anything bad for MB. Its such a paradoxical situation that on the surface RK seems to be the villain, but to me in reality it is MB who keeps on attacking RK unwisely in ignorance and she ends up hurting everyone in the process. She hurts RK, herself and her family. MB should slowly start thinking of her follies in the whole game that she started with RK. Unless she understand and corrects her act, it is going to endless and mindless vendetta and a monotonous game to watch.

Doesn't this sort of match with yours? 😉

Madhu - so simple, gentle, sweet and so very open about how much her relationships matter to her. And yet, her Achilles heel is not her righteousness but the point at which it becomes self-righteousness, driven by her vanity to be the one making a difference.

This has happened twice now, and each time has been a turning point in her life.

In the matter of Mukund, she worked to the detriment of Mukund and his family by not wanting them to take the settlement. His injury would soon be healed, but the settlement would have solved many of his family's difficulties. Fighting for truth and justice as she did when the boy was not crippled or dying made no sense. I cheered on the family fighting for justice in the Amitabh Bachchan-John Abraham starrer 'Virrudh', because irreparable harm *had* been done there. But in the Mukund situation, Madhu wanted to fight to see the powerful rich brat superstar either humbled or punished.

Perhaps she thought that since RK surely did not have the viciousness of Balraj which had prevented the mother and daughters from ever seeking justice against him, she would prevail. But she was wrong - about RK, his background, and just how many ways there are to retaliate against someone. And how many limits need not be crossed even to ensure revenge - though the last she took a long time to admit or acknowledge.

And then the second time, when she wanted to be the good bahu. She wanted RK to reconcile with his friend Bappa, but that altruistic noble intent became tainted by her desire to be proven right. RK must hurry up and come round, so that she could get praise not only from her mother-in-law but perhaps even from RK as well.

Perhaps it says something about Madhu as a person that even her character flaws are so innocent in their ambitions.😳

And RK - Rishabh - so contemptuous of relationships, and yet selflessly giving without receiving anything in return in every relationship in his life. Badmouthed, betrayed and harmed by those who shamelessly live off him and always expect more, and he is yet to say even years later "Enough!". So apparently ruthless, and yet so guaranteed to be passive to his loving but untiringly disloyal mother.

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#103

Hima,

Agree with your point of view on why MB does not lose faith in Shamsher's case. Noon time, I wanted to complete that explanation as well, but I left it at that. And you covered that point as well.

I agree word to word there. 👏 👏

So I guess, Leela touched all points and we covered everything. No ? 😆 Wonderful job done !!!

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Sonu

@applenpeaches

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Posted: 12 years ago

#104

SD, You brilliant brilliant woman.. Opening this Discussion thread was a great great idea from your side.. I was just reading the back threads now.. Have reached nowhere.. All of us (me not so much, but I do provide some entertainment 😉 with my goldfish comments) share our thoughts and interpretations here.. Its a treat for anyone to read and understand the show.. The interactive nature of this thread is amazing.. Not to speak of the bonding of everyone in this thread.. 🤗

Ok.. Rambling over... Let me go back and read the rest..

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#105

Peach,

Even I am super confused with regards to Dipzy. Yesterday, u know, literally I ignored her so that I understand the rest of the episode.

She seems desperate to have RK back in her life. And increasingly RK and MB are getting closer through stranger events that she is having to witness.

Since I don't get it 😆 To understand this situation, let me give you filmy examples.

HAVE FUN !!! 😆

Mithun Chakravarty and Yogita Bali are married and have 1 or 2 kids. Sridevi and Mithun have affair, have a secret marriage (yes while still being married to Yogita). Yogita gets to know, tries killing herself. Mithun gets back his senses and goes back to his Yogita forever.

AB and Jaya Bacchan are married, have kids. Rekha and AB have affair. Jaya succeeds in keeping her hubby to herself.

Kamal Hassan and Vani Ganapathy were married. KH was having affair with Sarika and got her pregnant. Vani got to know and she divorced KH. KH and Saarika then married.

Same that kind of KH story repeated with Boney Kapoor and Sridevi. Mona Kapoor was livid and she too divorced.

So many stories there.

So what will happen once RK sends off MB. Dipzy may try to become the other woman and some kind of drama may happen 🤣

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Sonu

@applenpeaches

Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#106

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
Peach,

Even I am super confused with regards to Dipzy. Yesterday, u know, literally I ignored her so that I understand the rest of the episode.

She seems desperate to have RK back in her life. And increasingly RK and MB are getting closer through stranger events that she is having to witness.

Since I don't get it 😆 To understand this situation, let me give you filmy examples.
HAVE FUN !!! 😆

Mithun Chakravarty and Yogita Bali are married and have 1 or 2 kids. Sridevi and Mithun have affair, have a secret marriage (yes while still being married to Yogita). Yogita gets to know, tries killing herself. Mithun gets back his senses and goes back to his Yogita forever.

AB and Jaya Bacchan are married, have kids. Rekha and AB have affair. Jaya succeeds in keeping her hubby to herself.

Kamal Hassan and Vani Ganapathy were married. KH was having affair with Sarika and got her pregnant. Vani got to know and she divorced KH. KH and Saarika then married.

Same that kind of KH story repeated with Boney Kapoor and Sridevi. Mona Kapoor was livid and she too divorced.

So many stories there.

So what will happen once RK sends off MB. Dipzy may try to become the other woman and some kind of drama may happen 🤣

Thats real life.. 😔 Reel life is nothing like real life.. 😃

How can they separate them, esp when they are in love? Their feet is just above the love hole.. Any minute now, both will lose their balance and fall in.. The main audience for this show are DVD fans, right? Will they allow Dipzy coming between Rishabala?

I strongly register my protest for that... Who all are with me?

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How do you know all these things? I didnt even know that Sridevi and Mithun had an affair.. I have heard abt the Boney Kapoor one.. She tried it twice and succeeded once!!! Why do people have to wreck another's home to build their own?

Edited by applenpeaches - 12 years ago

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zoya_naziya

@zoya_naziya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#107

Wow Shri and Leela you guys have taken it to a different level... I am yet to understand what each of you is trying to say and assimilate things...

But kudos to you guys for opening this thread and all of you just coe up with amazing character analysis👏👍🏼

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zoya_naziya

@zoya_naziya

Dazzler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#108

Shri what are you hinting at by providing examples of these extra-marital affairs?

Mera RK bohut shareef hai... Khud ki biwi ka blouse ki dori baandhne mein itni hichkichahat... yeh kya kisi aur aurat ke saath affair karega😆

On a serious note, I have been confused about Dipz from the time she went and stood outside RK's OT... Do you think it was her guilt(assuming she was behind the shooting and Mads was the target) that what i intended to happen and that now RK is in this condition coz of me? She wants RK back at any cost and she would go to any lengths to achieve it.

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zoya_naziya

@zoya_naziya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#109

Originally posted by: applenpeaches

Thats real life.. 😔 Reel life is nothing like real life.. 😃
How can they separate them, esp when they are in love? Their feet is just above the love hole.. Any minute now, both will lose their balance and fall in.. The main audience for this show are DVD fans, right? Will they allow Dipzy coming between Rishabala?
I strongly register my protest for that... Who all are with me? The audience will never ever like such a thing to happen.. So everyone is with you... And RK loaths her for the fact that she ditched him for money and am sure he would never ever give her a second chance...

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How do you know all these things? I didnt even know that Sridevi and Mithun had an affair.. I have heard abt the Boney Kapoor one.. She tried it twice and succeeded once!!! Why do people have to wreck another's home to build their own? Its love my dear.. No one can choose who to fall in love with.. It just happens... Ultimately its the choices one makes...Some choose duty and make peace with their wives(if wife is willing to) as in the case of AB-jaya... Some follow their heart / when the wives simply can't take it , they get married to their lovers.. And Bollywood is full of all these romances...