Is it right to change someone's religious views? - Page 3

Originally posted by: AshRun

Before I go on to say anything, I just want to clarify that I am not bashing any character or religion. This discussion has a lot to do with what's happening in the show currently. I just thought of making this post because I want to know the opinion of a bunch of people. I am a fan of this show too, and I've made two very positive posts on this forum, so yeah I'm just stating the above beforehand to avoid fights.

Now, I just wanted to know how many people think that it is right to try to change how someone feels about God. Personally, I find it odd that Madhu is so interested in trying to change the way RK feels about God and that too, by doing what he is against, that is, bringing Ganpati into the house. Maybe she wants him to be blessed by God and have a more blissful life, but I just don't seem to see how she's helping him by literally forcing him to believe and upsetting him in the process. It's good that she stood up for her beliefs and asked RK not to say anything bad about her God, but ...

Is it right of her to try to bring the God into RK's house without his permission ??

Is that the correct approach to try instill God's love into someone's heart?

Would you do the same thing if you were in her place? Would you even attempt to change an atheist's views ??

Would you use a different approach, maybe??

Please let me know, and again, I hope the discussion that I want to have does not culminate into a fight :) peace and love 😊

Originally posted by: AshRun

Before I go on to say anything, I just want to clarify that I am not bashing any character or religion. This discussion has a lot to do with what's happening in the show currently. I just thought of making this post because I want to know the opinion of a bunch of people. I am a fan of this show too, and I've made two very positive posts on this forum, so yeah I'm just stating the above beforehand to avoid fights.

Now, I just wanted to know how many people think that it is right to try to change how someone feels about God. Personally, I find it odd that Madhu is so interested in trying to change the way RK feels about God and that too, by doing what he is against, that is, bringing Ganpati into the house. Maybe she wants him to be blessed by God and have a more blissful life, but I just don't seem to see how she's helping him by literally forcing him to believe and upsetting him in the process. It's good that she stood up for her beliefs and asked RK not to say anything bad about her God, but ...

Is it right of her to try to bring the God into RK's house without his permission ??

Is that the correct approach to try instill God's love into someone's heart?

Would you do the same thing if you were in her place? Would you even attempt to change an atheist's views ??

Would you use a different approach, maybe??

Please let me know, and again, I hope the discussion that I want to have does not culminate into a fight :) peace and love 😊

also i must comment on some of the others above " a born athiest "

Agree with everyone who is criticizes the 'born atheist' analysis but just had a thought. RK's disbelief is not grounded in any form of rationality or questioning, but is a knee-jerk reaction to his tragedy. He hasn't really resolved his feelings for god and the supernatural, but is festering under a sense of betrayal. Exactly the same case as his feelings for his mum. Now that is a situation that calls for healing, isn't it? I suppose Madhu is trying to do just that. I do not approve of it, but I see her pov. I wish there won't be any forcible conversions, though.

She is not forcing him to change his views, She is just following her religous views n celebrating Ganpati for her own Happiness, Situation is gonna force RK to change his views...

Originally posted by: madhubala.fan

also i must comment on some of the others above " a born athiest "

nobody is a boren ahiest or a thiest.

a baby is simply born too innocent to get grasp of notions like these.

a person becomes an athiest AFTER acquiring a certain amount of knowledge when he ananlyses his surroundings. pehle khuda khud ko to bacha le fir insaano ko bachayega.

there is no such thing as a born athiest.

and another thing it is wrong to associate athiesm with immorallity.

it is again a prejudiced notion.

athiests are scientific and rational people ... while some thiests can be horribly curroupt since they think praying and worshipping they can get away with anything.

and to be frank god/religion single handedly is responsible for a major share of miseries around this world. it compartmentalises human being sinto hindu muslim blah blah and gives rise to disputes and bloody wars.

Originally posted by: bhoomi.s

Agree with everyone who is criticizes the 'born atheist' analysis but just had a thought. RK's disbelief is not grounded in any form of rationality or questioning, but is a knee-jerk reaction to his tragedy. He hasn't really resolved his feelings for god and the supernatural, but is festering under a sense of betrayal. Exactly the same case as his feelings for his mum. Now that is a situation that calls for healing, isn't it? I suppose Madhu is trying to do just that. I do not approve of it, but I see her pov. I wish there won't be any forcible conversions, though.

Originally posted by: Foucaults-qalam

Agreed. As I mentioned earlier, in this case this is a matter of psychological healing. But if handled badly, which it will be, it APPEARS to contradict every tenet of a secular nation. It may be seen as forcible and normative inclusion into a belief system in which RK, as a lapsed Hindu, no longer participates.

And really, how much hope do we hold out that Madhu will show that she appreciates the distinction between the two positions?

Also, my unease also lies with the idea that theistic belief is seen as the de facto logic of Tv land. It is universal and normative, so much so that Madhu's position is not a position, but the position to hold. Why?

Secularism in India is very diff from elsewhere. In other countries, it means separation of state and religion, in India it manifests as respect to all religions. Those of us who don't agree are encouraged to shut our traps. It's not right, but that's the way it is. Need to think of ways to change this.

Re RishBala, don't think the CVs are thinking so much. Someone just pointed out that RK's done Ganesh puja already which makes this whole discussion moot.