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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi Hammie, thank you for the updates :)
Twinkle: honestly you don't need me to say this, but yes we do love the time and effort you take to provide us with gifs :)

Baji the victorious: Normally I always write Bechara Baji, but not today. Although his act could be classed as foolish by most-it was and will remain-true to his character. One of the most genuine things he has done. Baji like Dutta is not great with words. Yes he is far more vocal. Yes he is more open about his inner feelings. Yes to all of that. BUT he isn't that great with getting his view across; the passion of what he wants to say the zeal of his heart; yes they all come across in abundance but his actual words flail somewhat. Indeed Hammie you are right this is a case of actions speal louder than words. Especially when that mantra is what Dutta believes in himself.

In fact I think it is that as opposed to anything else which makes him realise who are his true allies. Yes he does take his sweet time in coming to that realisation (as we shall see in the next couple of months) but nonethless it is actions that speak to him more than actual words. Perhaps it is for this reason that while Kala does appear to succeed in brainwashing Dutta somewhat with her 'whispering and emotional blackmail' it is always temporary. If anything to me that is what Kala always suffers from: temporary victory. She goes all out and makes her evil move yet although it looks like she may have won, it's only ever for the time being. As they say; true love (romantic or otherwise) does indeed conquer all.

Dutta & Aye: Now these are the kind of scenes that we needed. It's great and wonderful to see Tasha and even the budding friendship of Duji but this mother son moment-which we are deprived of a lot on this show-was surely missed. It warmed my heart. Mostly because I was pleasantly surprised at Dutta's tale. The story he spoke of with the boy and the mother's heart is actually something I was taught as a child at mosque. It was one of the first religious tales/hadith that was mentioned to us as children so that we could truly understand and appreciate our mother's role in our lives.

the second reason why I loved this scene was because it showed us Dutta's vulnerability. He isn't the don, the gangster, the bhau, the great man. He is Dutta, son of {I forgot her name] but yes he merely a son in that moment. A son who is hurting. A son who is tired. A son who has grown weary of the burdens and pain he has been harboring for a long time. A son who feels defeated. A son whose only solace is in the laps of his dear mother. You don't have to be a mamma's boy to feel that sukoon and that is what we saw today. Discussion aside of whether indeed Dutta is a mamma's boy or not, this was a plain and simple telling of a young boy hurting and being comforted by his mother.

I mentioned vulnerability. As I was writing the above it just struck me. This entire episode seems to have been focused on the idea of vulnerability. There was Dutta with his (as I have mentioned above) then there was Baji. Baji's vulnerability shone through his 'singing' first but mostly through his view of 'ar ya par' notion in the game of russian roulette. For him to do that without batting an eyelid pointed out someone who has nothing left to lose. Technically he did still have his life to lose, but in Baji's eyes if Dutta is not part of his life, then it is no life at all. SO he was not afraid of losing it.

Yet these two were not the only vulnerable ones. Kala is too. Now that I found most telling. Not does her nightmare speak volumes about her insecurity in regards to the Tasha bond. But note how in her nightmare, Dutta is shown as merely evicting her from his house. Even in her deepest subconscious, there is something there which tells her that he will not kill her. It's as though Kala is so consumed by her need to be the 'don' of the place to be the Queen Regent so as to speak that the idea of being evicted from her Palace is more frightening than the thought of her brother killing her. It's as though she can lose her life but she cannot lose her power. If anything she really reminds me of Cercei Lannister (game of thrones books) at this point. The woman who's lust for power is slowly maddening her. The madness in Kala is evident through her desperation (Ie her recent encounters with Naku), her tactile moves (planting bombs, double dealing with everyone) and even her nightmare.

next update;

"Yeh dosti hum nahin todenge"...And just like that our awesome twosome are reunited. Love live Duji ey? ;)

[edited] I actually had quite a bit to say (what is new) but then realised it's more relevant to the next update so I took it out.

Instead I will say this: their was some air of finality in the way Dutta left home, don't you think? The way he walked, the way he interacted with people I couldn't help but feel as though there was a deep sense of foreboding. May be it's because I have the benefit of hindsight but I dunno I had that chilling effect when he moved through the house (and this if you take the Kala plot out of the equation,)
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Posted: 11 years ago
hi hamletfab ud
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: goody2shoes

Hi Hammie, thank you for the updates :) happy saturday.. lardki..

Twinkle: honestly you don't need me to say this, but yes we do love the time and effort you take to provide us with gifs :) yeah twinks you make us all happy..😛

Baji the victorious: Normally I always write Bechara Baji, but not today. Although his act could be classed as foolish by most-it was and will remain-true to his character. One of the most genuine things he has done. Baji like Dutta is not great with words. 👏 Yes he is far more vocal. Yes he is more open about his inner feelings. Yes to all of that. BUT he isn't that great with getting his view across; the passion of what he wants to say the zeal of his heart; yes they all come across in abundance but his actual words flail somewhat. Indeed Hammie you are right this is a case of actions speal louder than words. Especially when that mantra is what Dutta believes in himself.
naila thujhe pata hai.. dutta knew how baji would react.. he wanted suddy to see where his loyalty stands..

In fact I think it is that as opposed to anything else which makes him realise who are his true allies. Yes he does take his sweet time in coming to that realisation (as we shall see in the next couple of months) but nonethless it is actions that speak to him more than actual words. Perhaps it is for this reason that while Kala does appear to succeed in brainwashing Dutta somewhat with her 'whispering and emotional blackmail' it is always temporary. If anything to me that is what Kala always suffers from: temporary victory. She goes all out and makes her evil move yet although it looks like she may have won, it's only ever for the time being. As they say; true love (romantic or otherwise) does indeed conquer all. so true..

Dutta & Aye: Now these are the kind of scenes that we needed. It's great and wonderful to see Tasha and even the budding friendship of Duji but this mother son moment-which we are deprived of a lot on this show-was surely missed. It warmed my heart. Mostly because I was pleasantly surprised at Dutta's tale. The story he spoke of with the boy and the mother's heart is actually something I was taught as a child at mosque. It was one of the first religious tales/hadith that was mentioned to us as children so that we could truly understand and appreciate our mother's role in our lives. ..mother's love usually unquestioned.. it was apt inclusion though, especially where he confesses the angst he causes her.. mishal's acting, his eyes were so telling .. what was beautiful here ,that aye is his foster maa.. mind you some questioned are raised about her nurturing.. she herself admitted once that when dutta was going astray she should have intervened.. but didn't for a good life that dutta got for her and the girls..

the second reason why I loved this scene was because it showed us Dutta's vulnerability. He isn't the don, the gangster, the bhau, the great man. He is Dutta, son of {I forgot her name] but yes he merely a son in that moment. A son who is hurting. A son who is tired. A son who has grown weary of the burdens and pain he has been harboring for a long time. A son who feels defeated. A son whose only solace is in the laps of his dear mother. You don't have to be a mamma's boy to feel that sukoon and that is what we saw today. Discussion aside of whether indeed Dutta is a mamma's boy or not, this was a plain and simple telling of a young boy hurting and being comforted by his mother.. he asks for TLC.. Peace...

I mentioned vulnerability. As I was writing the above it just struck me. This entire episode seems to have been focused on the idea of vulnerability. There was Dutta with his (as I have mentioned above) then there was Baji. Baji's vulnerability shone through his 'singing' first but mostly through his view of 'ar ya par' notion in the game of russian roulette. For him to do that without batting an eyelid pointed out someone who has nothing left to lose. Technically he did still have his life to lose, but in Baji's eyes if Dutta is not part of his life, then it is no life at all. SO he was not afraid of losing it.

Yet these two were not the only vulnerable ones. Kala is too. Now that I found most telling. Not does her nightmare speak volumes about her insecurity in regards to the Tasha bond. But note how in her nightmare, Dutta is shown as merely evicting her from his house. Even in her deepest subconscious, there is something there which tells her that he will not kill her. It's as though Kala is so consumed by her need to be the 'don' of the place to be the Queen Regent so as to speak that the idea of being evicted from her Palace is more frightening than the thought of her brother killing her. It's as though she can lose her life but she cannot lose her power. If anything she really reminds me of Cercei Lannister (game of thrones books) at this point. The woman who's lust for power is slowly maddening her. The madness in Kala is evident through her desperation (Ie her recent encounters with Naku), her tactile moves (planting bombs, double dealing with everyone) and even her nightmare.
plus she is obsessed by being slapped, by naku..i.e..suffering moral defeat by naku
next update;and kala repeats that she hates to be defeated. once she said

"Yeh dosti hum nahin todenge"...And just like that our awesome twosome are reunited. Love live Duji ey? ;)..yeah..for me LTL had some unforgettable pairinend of LTL1gs.. duji .. is number one for me.. kala /dutta , 2, aye/dutta 3..

[edited] I actually had quite a bit to say (what is new) but then realised it's more relevant to the next update so I took it out.

Instead I will say this: their was some air of finality in the way Dutta left home, don't you think? The way he walked, the way he interacted with people I couldn't help but feel as though there was a deep sense of foreboding. May be it's because I have the benefit of hindsight but I dunno I had that chilling effect when he moved through the house (and this if you take the Kala plot out of the equation,) well yes... but i tried not to point out.. but will do now.. last time dutta with sight .. the lingering look he gives naku.. is the first/last.. as fair naku... after this scene.. he will not be able to see her.. till the end of LTL1.. .. thanks for reading and commenting naila.. love and we all wait for your comments.. much love hammie.

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Posted: 11 years ago
Hammie, aah love your feedback.
I honestly felt that there was a subtle attempt to show that today when Dutta leaves the house he may not return. I know we have the benefit of hindsight, but I feel then when it was shown for the first time, there was an attempt to convey that. Whether it was a deliberate intention on part of the creative heads is another matter entirely but looking at from a clear point of view with no spoilers I can't help but feel that uneasiness that something is going to happen.

Having said that for me this is where LTL ended for me. I know Mishal is still in it for the next couple of months (with the whole blindness and Kala getting her comeuppance but) to me this is where as someone who accidently ended up watching this show, then Youtubed Dutta's scenes, this for me is where LTL ended. I Don't quite know how to say it in words (I know of all people I am saying that, the shock horror that I am lost for words, I know!) but I do feel that from this point onwards the show is no longer laagi but somewhat of a spin off. The character's may still be there but the heart and soul somewhat vacated the building by this point.

I will still watch and I will always comment here but for me, this is the point where I would normally tune out of a show.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: goody2shoes

Hammie, aah love your feedback. oyeee tere ahhh😛... makes me want to roarrr... aacha jokes apart.. good you gave jawab..

I honestly felt that there was a subtle attempt to show that today when Dutta leaves the house he may not return. I know we have the benefit of hindsight, but I feel then when it was shown for the first time, there was an attempt to convey that. Whether it was a deliberate intention on part of the creative heads is another matter entirely but looking at from a clear point of view with no spoilers I can't help but feel that uneasiness that something is going to happen.
its almost like his way out.. told you he wanted to leave.. for what ever .. PH couldn't cope with it..
Having said that for me this is where LTL ended for me.
for me too.. i was and still am bitter..wanted to see the two M's in there normal good looks interacting with each other.. they did interact, in the beginning but she was koel naku.. not that she was not attractive.. later on she was made to look like a dusky beauty... but but..when dutta recognizes his pyar for her.. tu dutta ko blind kar diya.. blind to naku ke outer beauty..
the actress remained gorri with actors playing dutta replacement and the other guy who was the layabout digu... its only with Mishal to me...the lovely actress beauty was kept low key.. but phir bhi.. Mishal/dutta ke saath mahi ke best chemistry rehe..

I know Mishal is still in it for the next couple of months (with the whole blindness and Kala getting her comeuppance but) to me this is where as someone who accidently ended up watching this show, then Youtubed Dutta's scenes, this for me is where LTL ended. I Don't quite know how to say it in words (I know of all people I am saying that, the shock horror that I am lost for words, I know!) but I do feel that from this point onwards the show is no longer laagi but somewhat of a spin off. The character's may still be there but the heart and soul somewhat vacated the building by this point.
I will still watch and I will always comment here but for me, this is the point where I would normally tune out of a show.
for me.. the day mishal was packed off in the black van.. LTL 1 ended.. will stop doing wu.. koi interesting point nehi hai.. may watch it???humm? but i know it will wind me up..
love hammie..

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Posted: 11 years ago
Episode~ 246
Hi hammie lion🤗
such a heart wrenching update dear.❤️...enjoyed it sooo much..❤️..dutta singing for naku.❤️.rishtey changing the original songs???.😲..why???.😕.ltl's original songs are really soulful and precious..❤️...loved the emotional scene between dutta & baaji.❤️..awee baaji..❤️.heart wrenching scene
❤️...Loyalty test...Dutta knows how Baji will react ,he just wants Suds to see Baji's devotion and loyalty..❤️👍🏼..
..loved Suds ki reaction,when dutta taking out his gun.🤣...loved the update soo much❤️..Take care...will be back soon hammie lion🤗


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Posted: 11 years ago
hi hammieeloved the ud...thali scene & thread was too good😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Twinkle; it is safe to say that Suds soiled himself in that scene...that's my story and I am sticking to it ;)

@Hammie: I totally get what you mean about the lack of interaction as a 'in love and married couple' between Tasha (as in Mahi and Mishal) I recon that is what is most annoying about the show. As much as I enjoyed seeing Mishal stretch his acting abilities by playing someone who becomes blind, and as sweet as it was to see that Nakusha still loved him, if anything, loved him even more, I do feel bitter than just when things seem to be getting on track. Puff it's all taken from us.

Making Dutta blind may have been to parallel the love between them. When Nakusha was supposedly the 'ugly duckling' (I shall use that phrase ALthough I have A LOT to say on colour stereotypes and racism...) but yes when Nakusha was an ugly duckling, Dutta fell in love with her. In fact it was clear that he was physically attracted to her too. For that reason when the tables turn and it is now Dutta who is seemingly imperfect it was nice to see Nakusha love him. It kind of put to bed any reservations anyone may have about NAkusha's love ie that she was only attracted to the knight in shining armour. In the sense that Dutta was her saviour and in more ways than one to her a knight. A knight who is now injured, with his blindness yet Naku still loves him with all her heart.

Nonethless despite the sweetness of the above and the fact that Mishal got to exercise his acting chops more. For me I think, had they not dragged the stroylines on for so long post being lost in the jungle, ie the whole wedding saga then it would have been entirely possible of us as the audience to have witnessed some 'happy blissful' moments between the two anchors of the show: Mishal and Mahi.

But there is no point of crying over spilled milk. All we can do is watch what was given to us and analyse the living day lights out of it and then go ahead and create our own sweet moments via vids, sigs and FF :)
Edited by goody2shoes - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@ Naila
awee dear.🤗..Yeah sudarshan soiled himself...he deserved it🤣...awee dear you views are always interesting ❤️...superb dear..🤗..such a treat to read them ❤️...so sweeet of you...big teddy hugs from Twinky baby🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: twinkle-star

@ Naila
awee dear.🤗..Yeah sudarshan soiled himself...he deserved it🤣...awee dear you views are always interesting ❤️...superb dear..🤗..such a treat to read them ❤️...so sweeet of you...big teddy hugs from Twinky baby🤗


Yes and further proof he did? The way he looks shiftily (Well I suppose he does that all the time) but here he looked extra shifty and he swiftly exited, presumably to change his pants ;)

Awww Twinkle that is sweet of you, but really all I do is have one giant rant and you lovelies on this forum are victims to my long ramblings. But I am glad I provide some entertainment :)
Edited by goody2shoes - 11 years ago

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