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.scorpio10

@.scorpio10

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Damn what a waste ...spl coming from a person Rahul Bose

Reform and forgiveness is for a person , a human not beast ...

Rahul Bose comments on gangrape accused, gets flak on Twitter

Recently, actor and activist Rahul Bose voiced his views in favour of giving the Delhi gang-rape accused a chance to reform. "We have to ask ourselves of the five or six of the rapists of the December 16, is there anyone who wants to change, who wants to reform...

Nobody is saying about commuting any sentence, the sentence stands as it is but while it stands, can we create a gender warrior among them?" commented the actor.

The irony of the situation though is that the prime rape accused in the case, Ram Singh, committed suicide in Tihar Jail today. He was found hanging in his cell early morning today.

The Twitter populace on the other hand, reacted strongly in stark criticism against the above statement made by Rahul Bose. Here are some of reactions on twitter...

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@ivy_11

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#22

The recent rape cases and abuse against children are once again in the media. If it is disturbing for us to read and hear about these incidents ...the trauma of the victims and their family is something that cannot be put into words.

These criminals against whom there is more than 200% evidence of their ghastly, sick crime should be publicly executed. IMO...if nothing else, it may instill the fear of death in the minds of some would be rapists and act as a deterrent.

Educating the public, introducing moral science classes and changing the mind-set are long term measures...they are required...but something needs to be done NOW too.

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-bharti-

@-bharti-

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Ivy, agree with you..

But ive to ask myself when were women/girls safe? There was always oppression, exploitation n abuse.. Its almost an accepted norm to keep women subjugated, if they were not abused by strangers they would have been by their own families. Its only now we have begun to question those regressive mindset.

Earlier there was no media bombarding us with 24/7 coverage. Even thou every act of violence is condemnable n deserves to be taken up with utmost seriousnes, the flip side is that the constant media glare paints a general gloom n erodes our trust with one n all. There is also a danger of alienating people further.

The police - political nexus, things are getting nowhere. With media unrelenting we are only voicing our outrage n frustrated with the lack of concrete actions on the ground level. Any change in laws/acts/punishments wil not deter criminals unless we understand n fix the shortcomings. The malaise may never be eradicated but we can atleast try, prevent n deter..

Instead of limiting our discourse to highlighting one or two cases we would do ourselves a great service if we nail the underlining issues. The overall degeneration is in our system. We should raise our voices at setting things in order, putting efficient systems in place n fixing Accountabilty

Look at our police force. They are stuck in the pre-independance era when maintaining order was the need of the hour. The force has not seen the daylights of reforms with changing times. It reflects in their conduct. The force lacks vision, leadership, independance from political intervention and mostly the sensitivty.. They are told to weild lathis at the slightest of provocation. Where is the accountability when an officer crosses his/her authority.

The public is outraged when cases drag in courts, but why does it? The skewed ratio of police / judges /courts to the population is mind blowing. The political class is not interested in change as their stranglehold to manipulate them to their needs would be lost.

So the need of the hour is Police reforms n Judicial reforms, other than that we wil only be goin in circles without a difference. The politicians, police know public memory is short, after a few days of outrage n the lip service n some cosmetic fixes we move on.. Only to be back with the same.

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Hamlet53

@Hamlet53

Sparkler

Posted: 12 years ago

#24

friends, this is regarding.. guriya...sadly... raw nerve touched again..
these are some pov's I read in a UK news paper on line today.. regarding guriya..incident
some views may be offensive so take it as public opinion and not as the absolute truth.. its gives a perspective into what some people across the world think...

Absolutely shocking !!! Hope the scum rots in hell. Having said that the double standard demonstrated by the readers here is revealing of the hypocrisy and denial .Didn't the Baby P incident happen here ??? What about Philpot ??? In these instances it's just the particular individual but when it happens in India its the entire nation that's barbaric and its' the entire nation that abuses women and what an ignorant as well as arrogant comment about tolerating Indians just because they were part of the commonwealth .The term your looking for is occupation and pillaging for a century!!!

Seoul, South Korea, 20/4/2013

my heart was breaking reading the awful trauma that this beautiful, innocent child had to endure. What in god's name is the world coming to and why is there not enough being done in India to safeguard vulnerable children and women??? As a female of asian origin, I can safely say that I will never step foot in India. I know that not all indians are bad people but these stories do seem to be a common occurence in that region and I think the Indian Government and police force should be ashamed of themselves. Disgusting human rights abuse.

london, 20/4/2013

50,000 children disappear in India every year. What happens to them?

, Belfast, United Kingdom, 20/4/2013

DEATH TO HIM AND OTHER PEDOPHILES.

the hague, Netherlands, 20/4/2013

Rape is a horriable crime but in india it seems so much worse -the women are dying from it

Stevenage, United Kingdom, 20/4/2013

The world should boycott India as a tourist destination until they stop this disgusting savage behaviour. I know I will never go there again.

South london, 20/4/2013

For all those Indians who go ahead and abort girl babies should learn from these crimes which are increasing in India. There are now more men than women in India. What do you think will happen if you only want to produce male children, the families who accept their little girls are going to pay the price.

Kolkata, India, 20/4/2013

What shocks me even more is the fact that the police tried to bribe the victim's family ...Who wants to live in India

pisa, 20/4/2013

Withdraw all support to the Indian government, be it money, medical or trade, see how swift the dont care powers that be act. I thought I if I hoped hard enough that Millie Martin was the last, it would be true, this vile just keeps on going. No prison sentences would ever be much of a deterrent, kill them all, just kill them and give as much protection for our children - no matter where they may be from, the UK, India or anywhere

Cardiff, United Kingdom, 20/4/2013

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-bharti-

@-bharti-

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: Hamlet53
friends, this is regarding.. guriya...sadly... raw nerve touched again..
these are some pov's I read in a UK news paper on line today.. regarding guriya..incident
some views may be offensive so take it as public opinion and not as the absolute truth.. its gives a perspective into what some people across the world think...

Absolutely shocking !!! Hope the scum rots in hell. Having said that the double standard demonstrated by the readers here is revealing of the hypocrisy and denial .Didn't the Baby P incident happen here ??? What about Philpot ??? In these instances it's just the particular individual but when it happens in India its the entire nation that's barbaric and its' the entire nation that abuses women and what an ignorant as well as arrogant comment about tolerating Indians just because they were part of the commonwealth .The term your looking for is occupation and pillaging for a century!!!

Seoul, South Korea, 20/4/2013

my heart was breaking reading the awful trauma that this beautiful, innocent child had to endure. What in god's name is the world coming to and why is there not enough being done in India to safeguard vulnerable children and women??? As a female of asian origin, I can safely say that I will never step foot in India. I know that not all indians are bad people but these stories do seem to be a common occurence in that region and I think the Indian Government and police force should be ashamed of themselves. Disgusting human rights abuse.

london, 20/4/2013

50,000 children disappear in India every year. What happens to them?

, Belfast, United Kingdom, 20/4/2013

DEATH TO HIM AND OTHER PEDOPHILES.

the hague, Netherlands, 20/4/2013

Rape is a horriable crime but in india it seems so much worse -the women are dying from it

Stevenage, United Kingdom, 20/4/2013

The world should boycott India as a tourist destination until they stop this disgusting savage behaviour. I know I will never go there again.

South london, 20/4/2013

For all those Indians who go ahead and abort girl babies should learn from these crimes which are increasing in India. There are now more men than women in India. What do you think will happen if you only want to produce male children, the families who accept their little girls are going to pay the price.

Kolkata, India, 20/4/2013

What shocks me even more is the fact that the police tried to bribe the victim's family ...Who wants to live in India

pisa, 20/4/2013

Withdraw all support to the Indian government, be it money, medical or trade, see how swift the dont care powers that be act. I thought I if I hoped hard enough that Millie Martin was the last, it would be true, this vile just keeps on going. No prison sentences would ever be much of a deterrent, kill them all, just kill them and give as much protection for our children - no matter where they may be from, the UK, India or anywhere

Cardiff, United Kingdom, 20/4/2013
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Thanx hammie for the article but its on expected lines, only shows the herd mentality to jump into conclusions without understanding the ground realities.

Is it a social malaise, yes our heads hang in shame, is it a system failure a big YES ! But instead of logically addressing the issue, generalising the entire population is laughable.

But i would dare their Govts to withdraw support n stop monetary assistance ??? (I would like to know what monetary) What India gets from UK is peanuts to some social causes, compared to the GDP of India. And let them boycott India as a tourist destination as this nation was never dependant on that 😆 We are one too many for our tourism to be short of visitors 😉

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-bharti-

@-bharti-

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#26

Read this during the aftermath of Dec 16 incident in delhi, the media in its earnest efforts to highlight the issue had actually ripped my delhi,s image... 😔 And now with hammie,s post couldnt wait to defend my city, my country in a way. Cmon yaar itni bhi bure nahi hai hum... 😉

Read this friends, an account of two New yorkers living in delhi who posted this on the media blitz in dec 2012.. Ofcourse im in no way brushing under the carpet the burning issues, but a city of 16million, with largely migrant population from all corners of the country one would expect it to be reeling under all sorts of urban issues 😉

is Delhi actually that dangerous?

Posted on December 9, 2009 by jenny and dave |

Conventional wisdom holds that Delhi is a riddled with crime. Our neighbors and coworkers assured us that Delhi was a haven of danger. Criminals lurked around every corner, they declared; we were taking our life into our hands every time we rode in an auto, walked through the Old City, or generally left our house after sundown.

But after eighteen months in the city, during which our only brush with crime was four scary six-year-olds, our question is this: why isn't there morecrime in Delhi?

The demographics and economics of Delhi suggest that the city should be a warzone. The city skews young and male: 55% of Delhi is male, as compared to 52% across India and a global average of slightly more than 50%; and over 53% of the city is under the age of 25, compared to about33% in New York City. Poor young males in America turn to sex and violence to vent their energy and aggression, but Delhi is such a conservative culture that it's very hard for young men to engage in the former. The city's economic gulf is incredibly wide and incredibly visible, like Ferraris-driving-past-pavement-dwellers visible. And the hardships of the city ' heat, cold, traffic, pollution, water shortages, high population density, insults and indignities ' are overwhelming even to people who can afford to overcome them.

Most cities would be torn apart by these social forces. But not Delhi.

The statistics reflect our observations. We don't argue with reports that show Delhi to be India's "crime capital". But while Delhi may be dangerous by Indian standards, it's positively tranquil as compared to American cities. The Delhi region had 495 murders in 2007, or 2.95 murders for every 100,000 people by the National Crime Records Bureau's population estimates. In that same year, however, New York City had 5.94 murders per 100,000 people ' and that was a year that New York City was named the safest big city in the United States. There's a similar story for rape in 2007: 3.57 per 100,000 in New Delhi, 10.48 per 100,000 in New York.

It's fair to assume that a lot of crime goes unreported in Delhi. But it's hard to imagine that three murders for every 100,000 people go unreported, or seven rapes for every 100,000 people. Which means, from our limited and admittedly amateur statistical analysis, that while Delhi has all of the demographics to make it a warzone, it has none of the actual crime.

It's clear even from the newspapers that Delhi's day-to-day dangers are nowhere near the level of even the safest American cities.The papers report every crime as if it heralds the end of days, but the fact that simple robberies make the news as often as they do suggests that bigger crimes are not occurring at a comparable rate. "Rs 1 lakh stolen from Punjab trader on bus," shouts one headline for a seven-paragraph article ' a petty crime that, while unfortunate for the victim, wouldn't garner even a sentence in an American paper because so many bigger crimes would elbow it out of the way.

We just can't understand why Delhi's so safe. Not only do we not understand why angry young men haven't taken full control of the city, we can't even understand what keeps the grizzled old parking attendants from stealing the cars to which they're entrusted. In places like Defense Colony Market, rich businessmen routinely hand the keys to their million-rupee cars to a parking attendant with the accompanying promise of a ten-rupee tip. How could these poor men, when faced with such a quick ticket to easy street, not take advantage of it?

Never mind what Delhi's apocalyptic news media says. The real question is this: what's keeping a city of poor, jealous, sexually-frustrated young men from unleashing their aggressions and turning Delhi into Gotham City?

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FASSBEN

@FASSBEN

Navigator

Posted: 12 years ago

#27

HI Hamlet

Thanks for the article I said this before and I still say this women are always treated this way and no one can and will not stop these animals. young girls and even boys getting abuse and sold all over the world. They always say it the women fault now what can they say when a children are getting raped what did she do for this to happen to them.

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mirage123

@mirage123

Navigator

Posted: 12 years ago

#28

its a shame & this country has worst record of child absue ..India needs to wake up..i 'm indian not shocked by the views coz they are true

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.scorpio10

@.scorpio10

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#29

The issue is not only abt Crime against women and children ...Rape being a major part of it ...Its mentality towards these issues ...

I am not gonna point fingers at anyone...If say the politicians are to blamed as they are not taking action ... Then think u are the ones , who gave them the power ...We need think before , we vote and if we do not ...then , we do not have even the right to complain .

No right candidate is not an excuse to be given ...

The question is not what action being taken after the crime ...is what action should be taken to prevent such crimes

The recent incident in Delhi is shameful ...But its not rare and its the only one

But why are blaming only Delhi ...this happens everywhere ...I live in Mumbai , and sometime had not very pleasant experience... it freaked me ...scared me for a while ...

Someone of u , know abt it ... thanks for the support and love

But are realized ...my fear , our fears ...make such ppl feel stronger

Decided next I see the fool ... to beat black and blue , drag him to cops ...whatever comes to my mind ...to his good luck , he did not show his face again

So I would like to say ...If someone tries harm u , share it with our friends , family and ppl around ...clam down and think ...to fill u with strength and act

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Nakusha

@Nakusha

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#30

hi hamlet

those comments are expected ,you can hide thing under carpet but how long & i sincerely hope some international pressure can do some miracle,moral bankcruptcy is wht i can say till now it was always abt women & their dressing (they ask for it) dented & painted is wht it was always described

wht abt child? read the report & it breaks u down , you feel unsafe for kids in ur fly & around india..its shameful & crime to compare these creatures with animals

UN has taken note of this hopefully some resolution is passed its just not one case its everyday thing

thanks for sharing hammiee