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Posted: 14 years ago
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"That we'd sit back and clap our hands going: "Oooh, Naku's going to end the game, end Kala, yada yada yodle ee-ooh🤣I can imagine myself doing that🤪lallaaaaaaa Nakusha is going to end the gameeeee oooooohhhhh sooo I can drool at D's face laaaaaa😆 *suvi skips away*
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahalaxmik

I read all the posts in this topic. 😔

I have not seen today's episode and I do not intend to watch any till I can see more of Mishal in my screen. Very bluntly and crudely put, I only switch this serial on to see MR's acting. That does not mean that all the others do not act well. They all are great actors, but for me, Mishal steals everyone's thunder with his very presence. And that is the very reason that I sorely feel his absence.

It saddens my heart beyond measure to see how a beautiful serial can be assassinated for reasons unknown to the audience. 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 I am really saddened to see what some lack of dedication can do to the end-product.

And yes, we do seem stupid, don't we??? Otherwise, we would have been taken more seriously and our demands would have been taken care of. 👎🏼 👎🏼 👎🏼 👎🏼 👎🏼

The question that is still foremost in my mind is: Why is the production house still so quiet??? Have they nothing to say to us??? We are waging a war with the channel openly for their product!!! Or am I mistaken in assuming their innocence too?????


Lots of questions and very few answers, if any at all!!!!!👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼


Please do not go by forum posts and think that the characters or the show have been assassinated. Watch today's episode (and yesterday's which had some great Dutta moments, if you haven't already) to gauge and analyze for yourself and I am sure you will see a little differently. Yes, things aren't the same as before, Dutta isn't exactly pulling out his gun and in total control, but situations and times have changed. And they will change back the other way soon too. I request that we stop letting the off-screen concerns cloud our judgement of what is actually on-screen: episodes that are head and shoulders above what we saw in January. I don't see Dutta going anywhere. I don't see him becoming permanently passive. I don't see this lull in his screenspace as assassination.

As for why Colors is doing something or the PH chooses not to clarify, those are questions which we can never answer and probably will never get proper answers to because of one bottom line: they want to milk this for all the suspense, publicity and unpredictability the show can have re: its future track. If we choose to split hairs over it and ignore what is actually being put on-screen for it and draw our own conclusions, speculating to no end, it is entirely up to us. And really, this is what I feel is actually the worst aspect of all this behind the scenes drama...it sabotages the enjoyment and judgement of what is actually being produced on reel, which is such a pity and unfair at that to those who are working hard to put out these episodes that are being either over-looked or nitpicked at, while they have been relatively good, tense and LTL-like all this time.
Edited by make-believe - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very well said make-believe - sorry dont know your name :)
I agree with you completely. We should not let the off screen happenings cloud what is happening on screen.
As for Dutta not being all gung-ho, that is the demand of the hour at the moment. He is recovering and I am sure he will bounce back. They didnt get Naku huffing and puffing there for no reason. She will heal him as always and they will both devise a fultu plan to get rid of Kala.
I think we need to give some kudos to the writing team for coming up with such a nice twist - so that Dutta can once again become the hero that he is meant to be :)
Keep the faith and fire burning ladies :)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Elysia

Smile, people. I'm not writing another depressing thread. I'm just asking a very simple question:

Do they think that we're stupid?
Now you're thinking: Who are "they"? Read and you'll find out.
Today's episode was alright. No painful cheesiness, and most importantly Dutta was present in the episode more than once. I think that this time he had more than three minutes on screen. Call me daring, but I say that's progress. Kind of.
Pros:
1) Dutta.
2) Dutta.
3) Oh, and did I mention Dutta?
4) Last, but not least, the final scene between Kala and the family was most definitely a pro as well in today's episode. The conversation between her and her mother, her taunting her sisters, Baji standing up and threatening her life, Kishore speaking up and calling her Kalavati - it all was just so intense that I loved every second of it.
Honestly, when Mishal's face showed on the screen, I smiled. For the first time in days.
Cons:
1) Editing glitches, once again. Oh, and the bloopers continues to grow stupider and stupider. Call me crazy, but I think that the recent bloopers are signs of carelessness rather than a woops.
2) The TaSha scene was shot awkwardly, but thanks to the brilliant actors and the fact that it was TaSha, I managed to ignore it and just enjoy that Dutta had his hand on her shoulder.
3) It annoyed me to no end that Baji said: "You started the game, Kalavati, but Nakusha is going to end it." No. No. No. No. Nakusha isn't going to do anything. Dutta is going to end this game. This war is between Dutta and Kala. Nakusha will do nothing, because Dutta will do everything.
You know what bothered me the most about this dialogue? Firstly, it was coming from Bajirao Sriram Patil. Baji would never say that Naku would end this game. He would say Dutta. So clearly, this was out of character. Whose idea was it to have him say Nakusha's name, I wonder? Secondly, this whole scene reeks of the one thing that we're all familiar with: Someone's trying so very hard to put Naku in focus, to make her character the dominating factor, to make her oh-so-strong that Dutta won't be needed. Someone's trying to suppress Dutta, to make him fade even more into the background. I don't think it's just one person standing behind this anymore.
My question is thus: Do they think that we're stupid? So stupid that we won't notice these small but significant details? That we'd sit back and clap our hands going: "Oooh, Naku's going to end the game, end Kala, yada yada yodle ee-ooh"?
Get one thing straight, Colors, CVs, whoever is coming up with it: Dutta is the one who's going to end this game. Dutta is the dominating character on this show. Dutta is the strongest male lead ever seen on Indian Television, so cut the crap and stop playing these mind games with the intellectual viewers of LTL.
We're not stupid, lovelies. Don't ruin LTL for us. It's not a warning, it's a request 😆



@bold Yep it was a total turn off watching Baji say Naku will end the game. He has been singing Naku vahini's praise for some time now. Don't know why. Can't believe it's coming from the same person who used to call her Koel all the time, I know he didn't intend it in any derogatory manner back then, but still. Also, i really miss those scenes were Baji used to tell her off too, like when she was so adamant about "Saab ko bolne ka, Supriya vahini ke baare mein samjhane ka etc etc".. But everyone else in the family were talking about Bhao's return only.

Maybe they decided to give him Naku instead because otherwise imagine Baji saying "Bhao will end the game", that doesn't sound like him. Baji is not some sort of sub-ordinate to Dutta who is waiting for him to come and save him. He is a strong guy of his own right who can take care of himself well. So if they had given him a line with Dutta will come save me,like the rest, it would weaken his character make it kind of damsel in distressy, make it even more ooc, hence Naku I guess.......

Originally posted by: make-believe

Errr, I think that last dialogue was supposed to point to the fact that Nakku is the trooper who has gone from their side to activate the biggest piece and game-changer, Dutta. She is the tangible messenger, who upon reaching the destination, will begin the end of Kala's charade by revealing everything to the only man who can really and truly shut Kala down. So don't worry, it is and will be the inevitable clash of the Titans...Nakku will stay put in awe and pride while her Saab, her biggest strength, will finally deal with Kala and be their saviour.



So well said👏.........

Ah, Clash of the Titans, I already have goosebumps thinking about Dutta-Kala confrontation😍...
Edited by rayjst - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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"Oooh, Naku's going to end the game, end Kala, yada yada yodle ee-ooh"?

So basically this sentence, triggered off your anger, Ely????😆
I would have also thought, had I not noticed, the character developement of Baaji's role after the mega episode. He has developed this sarcastic edge. Did you notice the way he said 'Ae Kalavati!'. He is using voice modulation. And I am loving it so much...
Coming to the topic starting sentence:
I personally believe that it is Baaji at his sarcastic best... like the way he said that 'I am Dutta Sriram Patil's Brother' knowing Kala hates Dutta for using her middle name as his!!! Nakku has forever paltofied her game, and the tussle between Nakku and Kala is open now, Dutta, whereas is totally unaware of this whole thing. And that is why Baaji is using Nakku's name ...he is demeaning Kala....

Secondly, it is human psychology, a woman would hate a woman's challenge....Kala cannot deny Dutta's superiority of Dutta over her, She has already accepted in her own sarcastic way, when she had taunted AS about giving priority to him. But Nakusha's preference over her, she could not tolerate, basically that was the thing, which had triggered her into taking this drastic step. It was Dutta preferring Nakku over her, which had made Kala lose it finally. And after all the show was promoted as Nakku's story, She has to be the pivot on which all the equations of the relation between the Hero and the vamp would turn 180 degrees....

Third, the whole family is surviving on Nakku's faith. Only she had talked to Dutta, even Baaji did not have a first hand interaction with Dutta. and so more than anything, he believes in power of Nakku's love to bring him back...

And fourth and the most foremost thing...Baaji knows, he just knows, Dutta cannot have a hand to hand with his Tai... I know many of you would not like this...But can we imagine Dutta slapping Kala??? The image just won't live up to the image of Dutta we have in our mind.... He had not even laid a hand on Seema, ten years back (or is it 7, as per Seema's version??) when he caught her red handed, and even after he finished the killing spree.....He does not lay hands on any woman, and he would definitely not lay his hands on his sister, however sinister, and that is why I have been saying that the Kala face off before Dutta, will be something I have been waiting for since the mega episode, because it is not going to be hand to hand meeting, but a heart to heart meeting. It is going to be a fabulous episode, with MR and AG, two power house actors at their best...

So guys, don't lose heart, the PH is silence, because it is loving the build up to a high point of the show, except Tasha reunion, this is going to be a mega event....And so let us not get all riled up and miss the Tasha moment ... It is going to be V-day yaar.... We need to be all pink and dolled up and not all red and riled up..Ely...the eyebrows please😳

By the way Pooji, Make-believe, Shreya, Crystal, Mahalaxmi, rayjst and droopy asleep....great discussion guys...👏

Originally posted by: make-believe


If we choose to split hairs over it and ignore what is actually being put on-screen for it and draw our own conclusions, speculating to no end, it is entirely up to us. And really, this is what I feel is actually the worst aspect of all this behind the scenes drama...it sabotages the enjoyment and judgement of what is actually being produced on reel, which is such a pity and unfair at that to those who are working hard to put out these episodes that are being either over-looked or nitpicked at, while they have been relatively good, tense and LTL-like all this time.



Spot on!!! We are having a wonderful track right now....let us enjoy it to our best😊
Edited by -Srushti- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Elysia, inconsistency is the way the serials are made in Hindi Tellydom. What bugs me, no adherence to quality or remaining true to characterisation is paid. I very much feel the creatives are most of the time sitting on the fence, trying to steer the story which will give them more TRPs, or send shockers around so that we fans become frenzy and shout no no, please don't we want this, by the time they give what we want, after enough dragging, bloopers, bad editing you are not sure if you wanted to see that at all or not....
I am waiting for a day when I will get to see water tight narration of a serial without flaws, creatively superb and at the end I will sit back and say it was worth it...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Srushti-

"Oooh, Naku's going to end the game, end Kala, yada yada yodle ee-ooh"?

So basically this sentence, triggered off your anger, Ely????😆
I would have also thought, had I not noticed, the character developement of Baaji's role after the mega episode. He has developed this sarcastic edge. Did you notice the way he said 'Ae Kalavati!'. He is using voice modulation. And I am loving it so much...
Coming to the topic starting sentence:
I personally believe that it is Baaji at his sarcastic best... like the way he said that 'I am Dutta Sriram Patil's Brother' knowing Kala hates Dutta for using her middle name as his!!! Nakku has forever paltofied her game, and the tussle between Nakku and Kala is open now, Dutta, whereas is totally unaware of this whole thing. And that is why Baaji is using Nakku's name ...he is demeaning Kala....

Secondly, it is human psychology, a woman would hate a woman's challenge....Kala cannot deny Dutta's superiority of Dutta over her, She has already accepted in her own sarcastic way, when she had taunted AS about giving priority to him. But Nakusha's preference over her, she could not tolerate, basically that was the thing, which had triggered her into taking this drastic step. It was Dutta preferring Nakku over her, which had made Kala lose it finally. And after all the show was promoted as Nakku's story, She has to be the pivot on which all the equations of the relation between the Hero and the vamp would turn 180 degrees....

Third, the whole family is surviving on Nakku's faith. Only she had talked to Dutta, even Baaji did not have a first hand interaction with Dutta. and so more than anything, he believes in power of Nakku's love to bring him back...

And fourth and the most foremost thing...Baaji knows, he just knows, Dutta cannot have a hand to hand with his Tai... I know many of you would not like this...But can we imagine Dutta slapping Kala??? The image just won't live up to the image of Dutta we have in our mind.... He had not even laid a hand on Seema, ten years back (or is it 7, as per Seema's version??) when he caught her red handed, and even after he finished the killing spree.....He does not lay hands on any woman, and he would definitely not lay his hands on his sister, however sinister, and that is why I have been saying that the Kala face off before Dutta, will be something I have been waiting for since the mega episode, because it is not going to be hand to hand meeting, but a heart to heart meeting. It is going to be a fabulous episode, with MR and AG, two power house actors at their best...

So guys, don't lose heart, the PH is silence, because it is loving the build up to a high point of the show, except Tasha reunion, this is going to be a mega event....And so let us not get all riled up and miss the Tasha moment ... It is going to be V-day yaar.... We need to be all pink and dolled up and not all red and riled up..Ely...the eyebrows please😳

By the way Pooji, Make-believe, Shreya, Crystal, Mahalaxmi, rayjst and droopy asleep....great discussion guys...👏



Spot on!!! We are having a wonderful track right now....let us enjoy it to our best😊

Very well said SrushtiClap....... And I jst love it when Baji is being sarcastic👍🏼, it hits bang on..... Even with Dutta, Baji's sarcasm works wonders............
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Elysia
i agree to u on every point
seeing Dutta on screen was enough for me to watch the show !

Even when he is quiet his eyes speaking
Mishal aka Dutta
Best actor in the world!
i sooooooo love his acting
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree wid ur pt. of view elysia. My whole family was amazed at dialogue of baji. The serial began with indirect war which was started by kala 25 years ago but it will definitely end directly by dutta as dutta was the person who lost e.thing in his life 4m childhood due to kala. Viewers r nt fools. May be channel is preparing mentally that LTL is a story of only nakusha, that's why they r sidelining dutta.
The way serial is moving right nw i wish serial shud be wrapped up by end of march. wid mishal's exit and mahi's marriage serial's story wil definitly change a lot in future. And personally i feel LTL can be a masterpiece if they end it nw. I hav already sent many mails to channel 4 mishal, but i think channel shud nt start making serial wid such concepts if they cant complete it logically.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I guess I am letting the off screen drama ruin the on screen drama for me.

I should shrug it off and enjoy the drama while it lasts in its entirety.
Thank you guys for bringing that to my notice. I shall try not to rain on the parade.😊

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