Evolving Dutta, evolving needs?

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gp00

@gp00

Dazzler

Posted: 14 years ago

😆Hi ladies, gentlemen!

Just a quick caveat:

If Dutta & Naku are your modern day equivalents of the sacred Romeo & Juliet, then this post is not for you.😆😆

If you consider Dutta & Naku jodi with reverence, then this post is definitely not for you.😆😆😆

Okay, now with the formalities out of the way😉....

I've always felt LTL has done a tremendous job with the Dutta character...I am transfixed at his complexity. It's because I empathize with his character...perhaps because of my own personality or psychological makeup. Dutta is definitely a handsome guy, but I love his embattled self more. Frankly, he is NOT boring to me.

Over the past few weeks, as I've kicked my LTL watching habit briefly and now started up again, I had a thought occur to me. And again, I think it is a byproduct of my own thinking or bias, but I thought of how Dutta will always evolve. He is what I call ALIVE on the inside...he'll never be one place for long, will change many times in his lifetime. He is introspective, aware.

I'm posting my warning again, if you cannot think of Dutta and Naku as anything other than perfect for each other...stop now!😆

As I've become more appreciative of Dutta's complexity, his aliveness, I become somehow more aware of Naku's relative dullness. Relative to him. Without a doubt, Naku's character was meant to be gentle, loving, sacrificing, with the occasional sherni thrown in--special occasions only like Anna!😆. But I find her to be a bit boring. My short-coming is that I bought into the CHARACTER of Naku as this all-understanding, self-sacrificing (for Babi, for Dutta), brave little girl who has suffered from soot all her life...how she was MADE for Dutta. WHY? Because I wonder if she will be still made for Dutta 10 years down the road.😲😲😲

I can hear the whispers now, much as Madhia darling hears her special whispers.😉 What the hell is GP saying? Has the girl gone bonkers?

I do not want to start a riot. But I was just thinking of a thought that occurred to me and that is that Dutta is too alive, too full of passion and contradictions for someone like Naku. Yes, Naku clearly has her own contradictions (her righteous speech to AS on lies😆). However, I wish the girl that Dutta was with could match him in strength, in complexity, and NO, this person is not Naku. To me, of course. I am only speaking my mind.

Naku is loving and that is what Dutta needs most. But I also think he needs someone who can meet him eye-to-eye, is not afraid to challenge him, etc. There is noone in his life that can do that--not Baji as a friend, not his family, and I'm sorry to say, not Naku, despite her occasional show of sherniness. Perhaps, I "do not understand the character".😆

I'd love to get your thoughts on this. It's just my rambling mind at work today.

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Bushra Iqbal

@Sanely_Insane

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Posted: 14 years ago

Nice topic. O.k. I agree wid u that Dutta is vry lively, aggressive, full of passion, etc.... And on the other hand Nakku is vry shy, though she shows her shernipan😆 at times. But still there is sumthng that i miss in her wen she is around Dutta. So i agree wid u r post. And i wish that she leaves all her inhibitions after her fairself is revealed. I want to see a new Nakusha.😊

Kuch zyada hogaya nai😆

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ltl_fan

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Posted: 14 years ago

@GP: I always appreciate how much thought you put into the complexity that makes up Dutta. But don't you think that even Nakku is evolving. Who would have expected her to shut Dutta up completely when he was ordering her to get out of the car at the car falling off the cliff scene. Also when they were friends it was Nakku's boldness that allowed her to break his shield and got him to talk to her about his past. I liked how Adi had nicely put it: Dutta is the ocean sometimes rough and sometimes calm and Nakku is the sailor who understands the ocean well.

Once her guilt of hiding her face is over I think we will see Nakku challenging Dutta regarding his actions - more eye to eye. Currently her own guilt is not allowing her to step up. If you recall in one of the scenes where Baaji had arranged a sangeet program for Supriya and Dutta and Dutta was throwing tantrums not wanting to attend the function. Even then Nakku had the guts to ask him to smile and be happy.

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Amber10

@Amber10

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Posted: 14 years ago

Have to agree, though Nakku is pretty (have appreciated her beauty with the soot make-up), always willing to help and swallow the burden of other peoples problems.. I find her vividly imaginable as the life long companion for Dutta as she is at present.

Not sure though once her FR is done, if egoistically I would want them to be together

Dutta is very much 'Alive' man, and he needs his partner to be positive, perceptive and not suffer emotional breakdowns at every turn. Nakku could change and become a stronger character (has shown traits on rare occasions) BUT then Nakku is the first who loves him despite knowing his background and work ethics…remember how Supriya hated him and his bloody hands

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gp00

@gp00

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: ltl_fan
@GP: I always appreciate how much thought you put into the complexity that makes up Dutta. But don't you think that even Nakku is evolving. Who would have expected her to shut Dutta up completely when he was ordering her to get out of the car at the car falling off the cliff scene. Also when they were friends it was Nakku's boldness that allowed her to break his shield and got him to talk to her about his past. I liked how Adi had nicely put it: Dutta is the ocean sometimes rough and sometimes calm and Nakku is the sailor who understands the ocean well.
Once her guilt of hiding her face is over I think we will see Nakku challenging Dutta regarding his actions - more eye to eye. Currently her own guilt is not allowing her to step up. If you recall in one of the scenes where Baaji had arranged a sangeet program for Supriya and Dutta and Dutta was throwing tantrums not wanting to attend the function. Even then Nakku had the guts to ask him to smile and be happy.

Hey Ruby,

Great points and I agree with you on what you said.

Yes, I do think Naku has evolved...in reverse. I think she has become weaker, because of her secret and fear of losing Dutta. I understand that.

I think it was her honesty that got Dutta to open up. And I liked that Nakusha, I really did.

I think after the marriage, she will stand up to some degree. Absolutely. But keep in mind, her nature. When it comes to Dutta, she is not all that brave or upfront. She will try and she will succeed because she does say things that are reasonable, but I don't see her as the type I was talking about.

I mean this as my opinion only and Adi is aware of my opinion too: I DO NOT believe that if Dutta is the ocean, then Naku is the sailor that understands the ocean well. IN THEORY, yes, it is a beautiful, poetic basis to build a romance around. However, I have not seen this in a long time. I think Naku feels for him, understands what makes him so riled up, she idolizes him even today, but I DO NOT think she understands him as deeply as the show would like the audience to think. They absolutely have the same needs--to be loved unconditionally, they've been deprived of it, a world that sees them from a certain way, yet inside there is more to them. Well, that's like everyone else in the world.

I think it is far-fetched to believe they get each other when they don't even talk. And yes, many a love story uses this mental ESP type connection to show what a grand even destined jodi something is...but it's odd. Observing is one way to understand someone, but talking is much more revealing.

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gp00

@gp00

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Amber10
Have to agree, though Nakku is pretty (have appreciated her beauty with the soot make-up), always willing to help and swallow the burden of other peoples problems.. I find her vividly imaginable as the life long companion for Dutta as she is at present.

Not sure though once her FR is done, if egoistically I would want them to be together

Dutta is very much 'Alive' man, and he needs his partner to be positive, perceptive and not suffer emotional breakdowns at every turn. Nakku could change and become a stronger character (has shown traits on rare occasions) BUT then Nakku is the first who loves him despite knowing his background and work ethics'remember how Supriya hated him and his bloody hands

Hello again Amber!

You're absolutely right that he needs a positive, perceptive, mentally strong person.

You raised an interesting point: Naku is the first person who loves him despite knowing his background....THAT is true BUT how many people did he shut out that could have understood him as well? Naku would not have been in the house if she had not saved his life, and AS had not asked them to stay on. Just by these actions alone, Dutta was curious, a bit more open, perhaps even a bit trustful....

Supriya was just a freak. I don't even think of her. She's a non-issue.😆 But can I ask you--if you met someone like Dutta who did what he did, with all the blood on his hands, even though he is nice on the inside, do you think you would accept him? I hate Sups just like everyone else, but she represents a valid perspective too. Eg. if there was a terrorist who occasionally hurt people yet was a darling on the inside, does that even matter? Would you want to be associated with a person who kills and hurts other people? I know we talk a lot about Naku's acceptance of Dutta, but is THAT normal? We talk about her accepting Dutta as something VIRTUOUS? But is it virtuous, or desperate? Or is she a little girl who never had a chance at romance, who now idolizes Dutta as someone who saved her, and is devoted to him, and is creating that romance? Looking for someone to love, to understand? Just questioning here.

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-Carrie-

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Posted: 14 years ago

Hey Parul. I must say a rather bold but very thoughtful question.

I agree with u that I find nothing remarkable about Nakusha. I'm sometimes truly amazed by the "sherni","one of a kind" Dutta-is-lucky" adjectives attributed to her.Frankly as the days pass I'm finding her a rather mousy girl.Claims that she turned Dutta a human from a jaanwar are plainly ridiculous. DUTTA WAS NEVER A JAANWAR IN THE FIRST PLACE. That Nakku & her family are alive & well today is because Dutta is Human & not any ordinary human but someone with a remarkable kind heart.He is so kind & considerate that he not only saved their lives but sensed the family was hungry & stopped at that eatery thus risking his life again.Surely not a behaviour of a jaanwar.Yet only Nakusha is credited with saving his life that night.

Of course Nakku is good girl with a pure heart and she loves Dutta only for him & not for what he can provide. But are these qualities enough for someone to become a life partner of the very mercurial & complex Dutta?

In this marriage Nakusha's only contribution will be her love which I whole heartedly agree is the most imp aspect of any relationship but its not the only one. Because its a myth that love alone sustains all. There are innumerable other aspects that go into making a realtionship a success. First & foremost being completely honest & truthful followed by trusting that ur partner will stand by u no matter what.She should stop protecting him this way.She should stop making decisions for him.It'll only prove to him she thinks he is a weakling.She'd already made that wrong judgement in Sups case.Instead of allowing him to face the reality that Supriya was not for him & letting him decide what he wants to do abt it she made the decision for him.She had no right to do so.And now this "FR" thingy.She's at it again. She has decided for him yet again.He is weak hence must be protected. So lets put off revelation such a huge truth of her life indefinitely.Where is the honesty,where is the trust?

And what "sherni"? Her scumbag of a father is robbing Dutta (Gold Bars, for goodness's sake) yet she stands there mute.

I'm sorry if I offended anybody.Parul asked & I replied.

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@ImmaculateDream

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Posted: 14 years ago

It depends upon what we Expect from Dutta's Wife.. I think .. Dutta doesn't want a wife who can take his decisions.. or help him in his business or whatever it is being called.. And I don't think If she is able to Take "right " decisions for him can Make her or qualify her to be a SHERNI .. which most of us love to call her ..

Dutta needs someone. Who can understand him upside down.. an is able to deal his mood swings well … who has a lot of stamina to stand by him as we know his life is not a bed of roses … And he Need a person who can CALM the Sadness! Unhappiness and emptiness around him … who is able to Break that shell and Awake the real him … It tells how much demanding a person he Is when it comes to his life partner..

Now IS nakusha is eligible to fit this bill??? I don't see any reason to find a NO!...

See .. nakusha is not a SUPERWOMAN.. and ITS not NECESSARY that Every decision taken by her for DUTTA has to be RIGhT! .. and If its WRONG that doesn't qualify her not to be worthy of his wife! But It also opens up another Bitter aspect of our society… IF a women is not lucky for her husband they try to tag her with "manhoos" and wit other suck un pleasant names… Ignoring how much she has gone through for that person just for his wellbeing.. for his happiness.. It really upsets me when ppl actually take nakusha in that sense… and try to prove that she is not worthy of him im talking Generally here.. no offenses meant to any one btw…

AS ruby pointed out.. Nakusha has guts! She is the one who has even tried to calm him down when he is in his ROARING modes… she has made him smile! When no one from his family even dared to do so… she has made him THINK!

And Nakusha is still young .. and it would be very un realistic if they show every move taken by her to place her and her Dutta at right Spot! Its mistakes and a character;s faults which makes him/ her learn … and Grow more… Nakusha has to learn a lot.. and she will.. that's what the story is all abt .. Its abt naksuha .. isn't it?

So, a wonderful crafted character like nakusha., who look simple and can be misunderstood. for a time … but I for one has seen some great shades in her.. which has drawn a character like Dutta from The Day they met…

There has to be something special abt her … ..I think so … like th voiceover of the initial promo said .. "kuch to hai ussmain " per kya??

@ GP U really wake me up from my slumber ..and want me to Dig more and more abt nakusha …😊 .. Interesting topic yet again … keep them coming!

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Khushi

@--khushi--

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Posted: 14 years ago

good topic gp.... u raelly put a lots of efforts. I completely agree wid u that dutta is lively, confident, and full of passion. that's why we love him. and i too respect ur thouhgt. but i think nakku is equally sherni who is perfect for dutta.. though her charactor is shy and sacrificing, but she is not weak or scared of things. thats her secret which let her down. another ways we had a lots of tasha scenes in which nakku keeps her opinion infront of dutta very strongly.

and the most important that i think, the story is abt love and passion of two completely different people for each other. thats why it named as LAGGI TUJHSE LAGAN.

Its just my view. I am not at all against of ur views or topic. Hope i am not hurting u................

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gp00

@gp00

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: khushi0318
good topic gp.... u raelly put a lots of efforts. I completely agree wid u that dutta is lively, confident, and full of passion. that's why we love him. and i too respect ur thouhgt. but i think nakku is equally sherni who is perfect for dutta.. though her charactor is shy and sacrificing, but she is not weak or scared of things. thats her secret which let her down. another ways we had a lots of tasha scenes in which nakku keeps her opinion infront of dutta very strongly.

and the most important that i think, the story is abt love and passion of two completely different people for each other. thats why it named as LAGGI TUJHSE LAGAN.

Its just my view. I am not at all against of ur views or topic. Hope i am not hurting u................

Arre, NOT AT ALL! I am just glad that you found it an interesting topic and responded with your opinion. Thanks!

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