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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

You ladies are right, it is a sweet love story, and I understand this being their first true loves. Hence, the awkwardness, the past bad experiences, etc. BUT sometimes I feel like I'm watching awkward 13 year-olds--staring, peeking a look, giving each other cute smiles....but they don't TALK. Even 13 year-olds talk! Isn't the point to get to know each other...to want to just sit and talk, not just to be in the same room? It's a bit odd, to me. It's like watching adults have the love story of pre-teens.

I don't mean to offend anyone with that opinion. It's just that between this and seeing Dutta get all googly eyed, it's been a bit strange for me to absorb, and I have no idea why. I guess we all see things, not necessarily, as they are, but as we are (as said by a fave author).





I agree with you and I had the same feeling when I was watching Dutta all shy and acting like a teen..it looks cute on him but this 70s kinda romance doesnt go with his character...the way he was ........they were always so comfortable with each other and Naku use to talk a lot and now she too is just staring at him and not saying any thing...it is kind of weird .........I want them to sit and talk...with such a nice dialogue writer ...they can get some good dialogues betweem them with out being too filmy.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very good points raised by everyone...I think this phase is neccessary after Dutta's telling Naku he wnt force her for anything. A proposal from his POV scared her off into running away. So he's trying to woo her and also get to know her this way. I mean c'mon...Dutta wasnt even able light a match stick? Do you expect me to believe that? Obviously he was hanging around a place where he knew Naku wud come and was trying to kill time doing some deco. Yes I know thats very teenage...but I will say let them take the romance one phase at a time rather than jump into the man-woman thing. Let them be boy-girl and then grow up to be man-woman.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Wow! This indeed is one thought provoking discussion!!! 👏 Gp, you took my humor bone allegation too seriously is it? 😛 Kidding... 🤗 Lovely discussion and love the way it is shaping up... and i love each, each of your perspectives.

Mine, would run closer to DD's - she has just summed up everything I want to say. So has Ruby, Vaish, Sara and others.

I agree with you GP on the fact that this is a change in Dutta that is hard to perceive, given that he has never been seen like a man who can be so love-struck. But he is love-struck in a very real way. In fact, calling him love-struck, outside a joke would also be very demeaning to the whole emotion that his character is going through right now. So my apologies for using that term. Dutta is not love struck - he is just touched by love - a feeling so powerful that it has calmed down a lot of hatred inside him, it has let him go of the bottled emotions. This love, has allowed him to clear his own vision and look into his own eyes in search of himself. It is a feeling of being wanted, loved, cherished and treasured. Yes, he has always been "loved" by his sisters and mother and always been "wanted" too, but all that has been for a purpose. All his relationships have needed him to fulfill an obligation of "give and take" - more give and less take. But, this is one relationship where someone has loved him so selflessly that he is able to see how he is wanted, without being expected to give anything in return. How he is cherished to a point that his hurt seems bigger to this woman than her own, even when he was the one doing her a lot of "wrong". How her love has healed every wound he has suffered, with much sensitivity, patience and her unselfish actions. Treasured to an extent that this woman would not think of running away from him even in the face of death. This is a feeling that has helped him introspect his own "closed" mind to emotions - an emotion that he had stacked away deep within him for the fear of being seen as vulnerable, almost suppressing that part of him which yearned for true love (not physical, but emotional) too! This woman came into his life and without making any sound, unwound all his locked doors with so much ease that he did not even realize how he was just completely changed. In this process of introspection, he has also come to realize that someone who could have died for him, with him cannot be a person who can cause him harm - an analysis he had always refused to get into, being the hardened person that he was. This analysis, after being touched by the love, gave him the strength to apologize to this woman in front of his family, servants, guards, workers, subordinates - but most of all, for his own peace! However, even in that apology he ended up expecting her to react the way he wanted to and when she did not, he almost ended up hurting her again. But this time, there was a difference - he too feared losing her if he hurt her too much.

For all this while, Dutta has taken his relationship with Nakusha - be it that of a confidant, a friend, a wife, a lover (he always knew she loved him and would do anything for him -that is why he had asked Baji to place the knife in her dupatta in that temple scene - he knew she would run after him if he walks withe goons, which no one else from his family would do or he could have asked Baji to give it to his sisters too, isn't it?) for granted. This is because of this inherent security that "she will always be there". But, her running away from his proposal has got him to think about her fears about the relationship and her hesitation with it. Remember, he married her in a fit of rage and she accepted his decision. But when he had "set her free" her from the marriage, she had not accepted his decision as whole-heartedly as the marriage, but complied with it for it made no sense to reason out with a man not wanting to stay in that marriage. And now, while he has asked her to re-marry him with all respect, she has yet to say a resounding "Yes", even though she continues to love him with all that she is, she can be and will ever be!

Dutta is realising this feeling – and he is giving her exactly that attention which she deserves, but will not ask for. He is giving her that love which he has not experienced himself before in the 30 years of his life - nor has Nakusha for that matter. He is making her feel as treasured as she makes him feel - to be able to rekindle the lost friendship in their relationship. And not just for the sake of getting it right, but also because he wants to GIVE her everything that is rightfully hers and his love comes first on that list for her! It is that phase of life which people experience at a younger age, when they are more carefree and jovial – for Dutta, that phase of life passed away with blood on his hands and deep, deep scars on his mind – at having been ridiculed by a woman who "pretended" to be in love as well as the course of life he had chosen to displace his frustration, killing innocent people. The third time he killed someone, his hands had stopped trembling as the boy-next-door was silenced. The kind of life he has lived, makes him that much more intriguing a lover. He is not someone who can express himself in flowery words and he perhaps never will because emotions that have been stifled for over a decade do not find the right words, instantly. Plus, the upheaval that both of them have gone through has left them, as most of you pointed out, tongue-tied. Yet, he is going through this phase as any person falling in love for the first time would – because this time the love is mutual – perhaps stronger from the part of the woman in his life – a fact he could never deny and may be will never be able to overlook. Love at any age brings along immaturity – and people do things that is not really expected of them, that would surprise them too for they would never have expected to be doing what they are doing. There is no love, regardless of the age of the lovers, that is not immature for that age 😊 So, I think silent conversations between people who have too much to say to one another, but are waiting for that moment when they will just let go of everything else, are the most beautiful conversations they can have – and in the end, it is these silent conversations that will help them connect with one another in times when one of them seems like a "different" person. These unsaid interactions are bringing the warmth back into their interactions – and perhaps that warmth will bring back the words too. 😊
Like DD said, Dutta had got lost in the way and changed – so he is not changing now – Nakusha is bringing his life back on the path he had abandoned for hatred! 😊
Edited by adithinks - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@gp

Hota hai ye sab pyaar me, trust me! Even the most hardened of men get swayed by love. I find it very natural that Dutta acts shy around her, and keeps staring at her. Hey, he's falling in love, deep and hard. And forever. 😊

See, I'm thankful they aren't giving us Star One *R* rated romance scenes! The TaSha love scenes are cute, and soul deep. The way they're falling for each other, and taking it slow just makes my heart go into overdrive! Their chemistry's awesome, and there's magic in the air when they look at each other!
What I want to say is, I'm loving the romance, and want it to go on.
Pardon me, I'm lovesick.😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

You ladies are right, it is a sweet love story, and I understand this being their first true loves. Hence, the awkwardness, the past bad experiences, etc. BUT sometimes I feel like I'm watching awkward 13 year-olds--staring, peeking a look, giving each other cute smiles....but they don't TALK. Even 13 year-olds talk! Isn't the point to get to know each other...to want to just sit and talk, not just to be in the same room? It's a bit odd, to me. It's like watching adults have the love story of pre-teens.

I don't mean to offend anyone with that opinion. It's just that between this and seeing Dutta get all googly eyed, it's been a bit strange for me to absorb, and I have no idea why. I guess we all see things, not necessarily, as they are, but as we are (as said by a fave author).

Ohhhhhhhhhhh GP,What can you xpect from "Two Shy Souls In Love"............Nakku can break this .She just has to speak her heart out .But,her hidden truth is stopping her being close to Dutta.
Ab Dutta to Bachcha hain................. .........
Dont you know?????????????????????????????



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dancingdoll

GP, I know that right now Naku is the center of his life, she is the apple of his eye and his life right now revolves around her but that is not because he is wrapped around her in the sense that he has lost the touch with reality or outside world. This love is the recent change in his life and anything new, even love is exciting...You are in the exploration mode, exploring new turfs, new high and low points, getting to know each other, understanding what breaks or makes that person and how I can stabalize that, what tiny miny things can make the other person smile, what all are MUST KNOWS and what all classify as GOOD to KNOWS....Till this exploration period lasts, everyone looks wrapped around their partner, but its just a journey that has to be taken. Once the exploration phase is over, life returns back to normal, ofcourse with love still intact in your heart but the epicenter has either changed or widened to include lot of other things!!!

Its like if you get a new gadget, arent u excited about it for few days, u just concentrate on it, ignore other routine stuff, the difference is that after certain amount oftime, the gadget becomes a run of the mill but love still holds a special place!!!


Now, coming to Dutta, He is in love and he very well shows it...Do, I call it lovesick baby, No!! I phrase it as a man who is never shy in showing his feelings. He is same inside and out, when he hated Naku, he showed it internally and externally...shidaat se nafrat ki.....and hence, when he is in love, he is showing exactly what he feels like....shidat se pyaar bhi kiya....

He is not being different inside and out....Love blossoming inside and exterior still being a hrd turf, thats not Dutta!!...as he had once told Naku - "Mere Dil mein jo hota hai, mein wohi boltaa hoon"


The changes in him are changes that I would welcome with both my arms....We actually need to keep in mind his background here...Dutta was not always such an aggressive, hard turf....he was a normal guy, strong willed but happy-go-lucky.....Circumstances forced him to become the angry young man, with a stone heart....What has Naku's love done - Made him take a U-Turn and got him back on the spot, showed him what he truly was and is currently making him envelop his original happy-go-lucky image!!!.....So, Isnt that a good change?....It isnt Naku's love thats changing him, It's other people's betrayal that changed him, Naku just brought him back.....So, I wouldnt call him being a puppy!!!....What we are seeing is an original Dutta but just tht he is now more matured and responsible!!!


On the truth thing, Although, I enjoy every lovey-dovey scene between the two even now immensely, but I always have the "truth" lurking at the back of my mind, wondering, how long would it last, what journey would that take Dutta to, how hurt would he be? I know it wuld be shortlived, but even in those few days, what would he go thru', so, yes, that kinda takes my 5-6% passion away but Dutta is so good in his conviction that I still enjoy their romance.....I still hav a smile throughout the scene!!....ofcourse with a flicker of sadness in the eyes!!




👏 👏 👏 Need I say more? 😊 you should know that the road less taken is waiting for you! 😊 This post has STOLEN MY HEART! esp the word "shiddat!"
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: adithinks


Wow! This indeed is one thought provoking discussion!!! 👏 Gp, you took my humor bone allegation too seriously is it? 😛 Kidding... 🤗 Lovely discussion and love the way it is shaping up... and i love each, each of your perspectives.

Mine, would run closer to DD's - she has just summed up everything I want to say. So has Ruby, Vaish, Sara and others.

I agree with you GP on the fact that this is a change in Dutta that is hard to perceive, given that he has never been seen like a man who can be so love-struck. But he is love-struck in a very real way. In fact, calling him love-struck, outside a joke would also be very demeaning to the whole emotion that his character is going through right now. So my apologies for using that term. Dutta is not love struck - he is just touched by love - a feeling so powerful that it has calmed down a lot of hatred inside him, it has let him go of the bottled emotions. This love, has allowed him to clear his own vision and look into his own eyes in search of himself. It is a feeling of being wanted, loved, cherished and treasured. Yes, he has always been "loved" by his sisters and mother and always been "wanted" too, but all that has been for a purpose. All his relationships have needed him to fulfill an obligation of "give and take" - more give and less take. But, this is one relationship where someone has loved him so selflessly that he is able to see how he is wanted, without being expected to give anything in return. How he is cherished to a point that his hurt seems bigger to this woman than her own, even when he was the one doing her a lot of "wrong". How her love has healed every wound he has suffered, with much sensitivity, patience and her unselfish actions. Treasured to an extent that this woman would not think of running away from him even in the face of death. This is a feeling that has helped him introspect his own "closed" mind to emotions - an emotion that he had stacked away deep within him for the fear of being seen as vulnerable, almost suppressing that part of him which yearned for true love (not physical, but emotional) too! This woman came into his life and without making any sound, unwound all his locked doors with so much ease that he did not even realize how he was just completely changed. In this process of introspection, he has also come to realize that someone who could have died for him, with him cannot be a person who can cause him harm - an analysis he had always refused to get into, being the hardened person that he was. This analysis, after being touched by the love, gave him the strength to apologize to this woman in front of his family, servants, guards, workers, subordinates - but most of all, for his own peace! However, even in that apology he ended up expecting her to react the way he wanted to and when she did not, he almost ended up hurting her again. But this time, there was a difference - he too feared losing her if he hurt her too much.

For all this while, Dutta has taken his relationship with Nakusha - be it that of a confidant, a friend, a wife, a lover (he always knew she loved him and would do anything for him -that is why he had asked Baji to place the knife in her dupatta in that temple scene - he knew she would run after him if he walks withe goons, which no one else from his family would do or he could have asked Baji to give it to his sisters too, isn't it?) for granted. This is because of this inherent security that "she will always be there". But, her running away from his proposal has got him to think about her fears about the relationship and her hesitation with it. Remember, he married her in a fit of rage and she accepted his decision. But when he had "set her free" her from the marriage, she had not accepted his decision as whole-heartedly as the marriage, but complied with it for it made no sense to reason out with a man not wanting to stay in that marriage. And now, while he has asked her to re-marry him with all respect, she has yet to say a resounding "Yes", even though she continues to love him with all that she is, she can be and will ever be!

Dutta is realising this feeling ? and he is giving her exactly that attention which she deserves, but will not ask for. He is giving her that love which he has not experienced himself before in the 30 years of his life - nor has Nakusha for that matter. He is making her feel as treasured as she makes him feel - to be able to rekindle the lost friendship in their relationship. And not just for the sake of getting it right, but also because he wants to GIVE her everything that is rightfully hers and his love comes first on that list for her! It is that phase of life which people experience at a younger age, when they are more carefree and jovial ? for Dutta, that phase of life passed away with blood on his hands and deep, deep scars on his mind ? at having been ridiculed by a woman who "pretended" to be in love as well as the course of life he had chosen to displace his frustration, killing innocent people. The third time he killed someone, his hands had stopped trembling as the boy-next-door was silenced. The kind of life he has lived, makes him that much more intriguing a lover. He is not someone who can express himself in flowery words and he perhaps never will because emotions that have been stifled for over a decade do not find the right words, instantly. Plus, the upheaval that both of them have gone through has left them, as most of you pointed out, tongue-tied. Yet, he is going through this phase as any person falling in love for the first time would ? because this time the love is mutual ? perhaps stronger from the part of the woman in his life ? a fact he could never deny and may be will never be able to overlook. Love at any age brings along immaturity ? and people do things that is not really expected of them, that would surprise them too for they would never have expected to be doing what they are doing. There is no love, regardless of the age of the lovers, that is not immature for that age 😊 So, I think silent conversations between people who have too much to say to one another, but are waiting for that moment when they will just let go of everything else, are the most beautiful conversations they can have ? and in the end, it is these silent conversations that will help them connect with one another in times when one of them seems like a "different" person. These unsaid interactions are bringing the warmth back into their interactions ? and perhaps that warmth will bring back the words too. 😊
Like DD said, Dutta had got lost in the way and changed ? so he is not changing now ? Nakusha is bringing his life back on the path he had abandoned for hatred! 😊

Hey,Thx a lot for xplaining it sooooooooo wellllllllll................. .........
I hope GP got her answers.............................................



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Posted: 14 years ago
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@kateleode: Ab GP ki maaya toh GP hi jaane 😛 i am just sharing my mind, not trying to explain 😊 she has her own right to her perception, so even if she thinks it is immature, it is 😊 thanks for the response though. 😊 Means a lot!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi Saakshi,

I too agree -- DD explained it very well.

I don't quite know why I feel this way. It just IS. Rationally, I understand what everyone is saying. It occurred to me to when writing the post initially. Yes, the romance needs to play out this way to make sense, given the natures of Dutta and Nakusha and their past experiences. I understand the newness of first falling in love, the exhiliration, the rush, it's electric and overwhelming. And that is what we're seeing with Dutta. For me, though, despite my rational side getting it, I'm just not there intellectually.

I don't think I have questions, per se, that I wanted answers to. It's just this perception, interpretation, and the topic that I wanted to discuss. 😛 And it's been pretty fun!
Edited by gp00 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: adithinks

@kateleode: Ab GP ki maaya toh GP hi jaane 😛 i am just sharing my mind, not trying to explain 😊 she has her own right to her perception, so even if she thinks it is immature, it is 😊 thanks for the response though. 😊 Means a lot!

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