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Posted: 15 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: MBee


I feel that Babi notasking or questioning Dutta is better. I feel that if she questions him he will feel comppelled to feel guilty and may chaqnge his mind as a rebound to being questioned.


We have seen Dutta in dilema about his feeling, and it this dilemea that will bring him closer to Naku.He needs to work it out for himself, only then will Naku get the true pure love that she so deserves. Only then will she harbour the ruits of her pain and tears. Any other way would be a cheated shortcut that she does not need. Dutta does not need anyone to tell him what need to be done, all he needs is his heart to waken up and tell him that the pain he is feeling is due to his distance from Naku.


At present, he knows that what he did was wrong. He also knows that Naku loves him. He is in a dilema because he cannot weigh up the fact that Naku could geniuinely love him after the torture he put her through. He actually feels that Naku would want to be released from him.


What ever Babi was doing in changing Naku's colour was done for her protection. In all cultures the stigma of being married and the marriage being broken is looked down at in society. This is worse when you are from a poor family and exploited. Naku has been exploited by Dutta and his family. Babi understands that Naku's future is bleak without Dutta.




Naku is right that without love on both sides this relationship has no meaning. Babi is right when she wants to stand up for her daughters future. Dutta thinks he is right by releasing Naku. The person whom is most wrong is Aai Sab. She prays on those beads and talks of peoples Naseeb being in their forhead but has made no attempt to rectify what wrong is happenning in her household

I too am glad that Babi did not approach Dutta or AS. Ask Ayi Sahib "Is it okay for Dutta to dump his wife like this?" And what is Ayi Sahib going to say..."I'm so sorry. I should have treated Naku better...I think Dutta should NOT leave Naku..." Come on, Babi and Naku would have looked like conniving people overstaying their welcome--to AS and the three witches. NOT TO ME, to be clear. What if AS said, "but this was not a true marriage. He was drunk. And this marriage is NOT what Dutta or we want. Leave him in peace." What then does Babi say? Yes, Naku was exploited, but NOW WHAT? WHAT type of future would she have in the niwas without Dutta's acceptance of her as his wife? I am upset, like all of us Naku devotees, of how she was treated. It was wrong of Dutta...and no, drunkeness DOES NOT absolve him of his guilt in this. It is not an excuse. But my question is, what is BABI trying to gain for Naku exactly? Because I'm really confused? To let her continue to be married to Dutta, but live with her family in the outhouse? I just don't get it. Babi can't be that stupid to think that things would change.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@GP: Babi was clutching at the straws. Lets not forget dutta does pretty much as he please. so irrespective what anyone tells him now he wont change his mind till he himself wants to. Naku understands that...but not babi as she doenst know dutta as well as naku.
but looking at it from babi's pov naku is looking at a bleak future...she loves the guy and even is his wife. will she be able to move on even if they decide to remove the black paint from her? dutta being a rich and good looking guy can prolly move on pretty quickly if he wants to. what's the guarantee that even if naku wants to move on her past of being married to dutta at one time in her life wont catch up with her? babi is a desperate mother. she is perhaps hoping proximity will make dutta fall for naku...if necessary he can atleast fall in lust with naku's beauty.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shreya,
I think Babi is so loving of her daughter that like any loving mother, she cannot see her daughter heartbroken and abused/hurt. So, in that way, I understand her wanting Naku to fight for her love for Dutta and a future with him.
But, it seems to me at least, that in desperate times, Babi makes really bad decisions--as if her back is to the wall and she's trying to push back. She did the same after what happened to her first daughter. I am not faulting her...she made the decisions as best she could to protect Naku. If only she could see the soundness of Naku's thinking...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

Shreya,
I think Babi is so loving of her daughter that like any loving mother, she cannot see her daughter heartbroken and abused/hurt. So, in that way, I understand her wanting Naku to fight for her love for Dutta and a future with him.
But, it seems to me at least, that in desperate times, Babi makes really bad decisions--as if her back is to the wall and she's trying to push back. She did the same after what happened to her first daughter. I am not faulting her...she made the decisions as best she could to protect Naku. If only she could see the soundness of Naku's thinking...



I dont blame her for wanting to do what she wants to do. now c'mon even anu and i wud want babi to question dutta and ask him if he thinks he is god to play with naku's life. also from viewers pov it wud have been weird if no one from naku's side thought of questioning dutta.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

I totally see your point about her anger. But I honestly have to ask what did Babi expect? That Naku stay and get what? A husband who does not love her? A family that hates her? A marriage in which she was never accorded the rights or respect of a wife and bahu? That she never have a chance to be a mother?.

GP yaar , Nakku and her family are from lower -class in the society where a broken-marriage means the end of life. See Babi can bear her daughter married to a man and in a loveless relation than be dumped. According to babi, If Nakku is dumped there is no way to ever redeem Nakku's life. No other man will grab her hand and give her a life. Thats the way they have been bought up with and its true in most parts of India even today. A marriage is for keeps, whatever circumstances that may have happened.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002



I dont blame her for wanting to do what she wants to do. now c'mon even anu and i wud want babi to question dutta and ask him if he thinks he is god to play with naku's life. also from viewers pov it wud have been weird if no one from naku's side thought of questioning dutta.



It's really weird, Shreya, but for some reason, I don't feel it weird that no one from Naku's side did not think of questioning Dutta about this...just as they had never questioned him before about the marriage. He is Bhao, and quite frankly, everytime he opens his mouth, Babi, Ganpat, and Sethji are absolutely terrified of him...so I absolutely did not expect them to raise a peep. Yes, what Dutta did was an injustice, giving her "freedom"...just like marrying her was an "injustice". Actually, I would have been shocked, 😲, and even more 😲, had they approached Dutta about it. If they did, then would Dutta have changed his mind...seen the error of his ways, not through his examination of his own heart, but because Babi said something? Asking him if he was God, etc. would have been a nice parting shot, but nothing else.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

GP yaar , Nakku and her family are from lower -class in the society where a broken-marriage means the end of life. See Babi can bear her daughter married to a man and in a loveless relation than be dumped. According to babi, If Nakku is dumped there is no way to ever redeem Nakku's life. No other man will grab her hand and give her a life. Thats the way they have been bought up with and its true in most parts of India even today. A marriage is for keeps, whatever circumstances that may have happened.



True...its also their background that makes Babi react thus. Same applies to AS who is the boy's mother....for men its easier to move on. In our patriarchal society thats unfortunately the case. So AS is simply ignoring the marriage behaving as if it never happened. so i guess now it will be left to dutta only to again work on the marriage. now he wont get help from anyone...not even naku.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

I dont blame her for wanting to do what she wants to do. now c'mon even anu and i wud want babi to question dutta and ask him if he thinks he is god to play with naku's life. also from viewers pov it wud have been weird if no one from naku's side thought of questioning dutta.

Exactly. Not Questioning Dutta will only mean to Dutta and everyone in that house that Dutta took the right decision and thats why no one is asking him abt it. But is that right? . So what if Babi/Nakku dont get anything out of Q Dutta............that doesnt mean u will let the guy go scott free and do as he wishes right?. Voicing against injustice is a human right and Nakku is of a different mitti, so she doesnt want to ask , but Babi being a poor woman, a mother on top of it, who sees thru her daughters pains .............. cant keep her mouth shut at such a hard time.
If not Babi, I want kishore to ask Dutta. I really want someone to ask him that. Rest should be left to him but atleast ask him for godsakes..............and let him do whatever he wishes after that.
He made a big mistake by dumping Nakku........ and it needs to be pointed out to him. AS , Baaji, Evil-sisters, Sudarshan wont say a word.......infact they are quite happy with that decision......Its only kishore and Babi left .......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00



It's really weird, Shreya, but for some reason, I don't feel it weird that no one from Naku's side did not think of questioning Dutta about this...just as they had never questioned him before about the marriage. He is Bhao, and quite frankly, everytime he opens his mouth, Babi, Ganpat, and Sethji are absolutely terrified of him...so I absolutely did not expect them to raise a peep. Yes, what Dutta did was an injustice, giving her "freedom"...just like marrying her was an "injustice". Actually, I would have been shocked, 😲, and even more 😲, had they approached Dutta about it. If they did, then would Dutta have changed his mind...seen the error of his ways, not through his examination of his own heart, but because Babi said something? Asking him if he was God, etc. would have been a nice parting shot, but nothing else.




We know dutta wudnt change his mind. And I think its infact better this way. that way we will know dutta isnt doing anything out of guilt but out his own feelings whether its love or protectiveness.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

Exactly. Not Questioning Dutta will only mean to Dutta and everyone in that house that Dutta took the right decision and thats why no one is asking him abt it. But is that right? . So what if Babi/Nakku dont get anything out of Q Dutta............that doesnt mean u will let the guy go scott free and do as he wishes right?. Voicing against injustice is a human right and Nakku is of a different mitti, so she doesnt want to ask , but Babi being a poor woman, a mother on top of it, who sees thru her daughters pains .............. cant keep her mouth shut at such a hard time.
If not Babi, I want kishore to ask Dutta. I really want someone to ask him that. Rest should be left to him but atleast ask him for godsakes..............and let him do whatever he wishes after that.
He made a big mistake by dumping Nakku........ and it needs to be pointed out to him. AS , Baaji, Evil-sisters, Sudarshan wont say a word.......infact they are quite happy with that decision......Its only kishore and Babi left .......




I dont think Naku will let Babi question him...so I guess finally it wud be Kishore with Baji giving his expert opinion in between.

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