Babi, take a look at yourself in the mirror!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi everyone,
It's so good to be back on the forum after a long-weekend away. So, I caught today's episode and much to my chagrin, Babi was giving her speech to Naku about her rights and my particular favorite, who was Dutta to decide about the marriage? God?

I found this humorous...matter of fact, I found Babi's shock at what was happening to be humorous. At how her daughter was being disrespected and deprived of her rights and future. How she was going to take Naku to Dutta and AS and demand her rights. [GP00 rolls her eyes at the irony of it all]And I also found it irritating...very irritating, just as I had found Ganpat telling Naku that Dutta's family will now embrace you after saving them. Setting up false expectations, even unreasonable ones, is heartbreaking for Naku because Naku knows what the situation truly is right now...Dutta has given her her freedom, it was HIS choice, and there was nothing she or anyone could do about it.

Perhaps, these days, I like Babi less because of her hypocrisy. I respect and admire her love for her daughter. But she forgot that SHE is the one who first sabotaged her daughter, while trying to save her and give her a future. With each stroke of the dark coal/soot or whatever onto Naku's face and hands, she deprived her daughter of respect with HER OWN hands. She deprived her daughter of a chance at life and at love...all to protect Naku and herself from pain. And I think that was the whole point of Babi's decision: to protect Naku and herself from pain and separation...fear...it was an act arising from fear.

Further, Babi was angry at Dutta for what he was doing to Naku. When Babi said he filled your maang with sindhoor, I was thinking, well, he was drunk off his a**, was enraged, and had mistreated/abused Naku, and she wanted Naku to fight for her love, when she was NOT loved back, but rather hated by her husband. [Of course, we know Dutta's feelings run much deeper for Naku, but as far as Naku, Dutta, and everyone else is concerned, this has not be expressed so far or understood]. And she wants Naku to fight for her due rights and respect?

I was dumbfounded. I wanted to say to Babi who are YOU to get angry? You too have been unfair, even slightly, to your daughter. Your actions have made it impossible, so far, for her to live. It is her face that people see first, that makes them not take her seriously or belittle her, and NOT the purity and love in her heart. And now you are angry at Dutta's reaction...his desire to set things right? As if he took away her life, her future? Babi, take a good look in the mirror.

And, by the way, is the anger you are feeling at everyone for what is happening at Naku also because of the guilt you feel too?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Interesting thought...but Babi has every right to be angry. Dutta made the decision himself...its not as if they tried to influence him. In a fit of rage he married naku to get himself a punching bag. and now that he is not so sure of her guilt and also unable to carry out his revenge as he is grateful to her what does he do? he just dumps her and tells her to erase everything that happened and start life afresh so that he doesnt have to live with the burden of guilt of punishing an innocent. while maybe the past can be kind of erased in a new place with new people what abt naku's feelings? can those be erased at will? i think babi was more angry on account of naku's feelings and the fact that she might never be able to move on from him.
if u go to see in a way babi's worst fears came true despite all her precautions. a rich man used her daughter and then cast her aside when he had no need for her.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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GP , totallly understand ur pt. But I kind of agree with shreya here, even though I hate Babi for that black-makeup solution which kind of trampled her daughter's life forever. But today I kind of am on Babi's side. Anyay sehna bhi gunaah hai and today Nakku was on the receiving end of a bad decision, so she had everyright to fight for it. Babi was so enraged today because she understands how badly her daughter loves Dutta. Babi when she applied that blackmakeup mustve not realised that Nakku may fall for a guy who will reject her. That happened long back and so we cant blame her for what Dutta is doing today. Thats for some other time. Today's issue is Dutta's decision. I wouldve agreed with u if Dutta decided to break his ties with Nakku because of her looks. But that isnt true, we very well know that. So Babi's gunaah doesnt come into pic today. Its only Dutta's injustice which was the burning issue of the day and Nakku shouldve fought back but again she believes in a "Set ur love free and if it comes back to u its urs , other wise it never was" concept.

Babi isnt as mahaan as Nakku naa. She is aam-jantha types , like us. We believe in voicing against injustice and so was she. She couldnt see her daughter's heart break so badly ,sply since the pretext on which she was married and the pretext on which she was being dumped are all wrong allegations. Thats what was killing her and not her guilt.
She wanted to ask AS and Dutta if a married woman can be so easily dumped. I really wished she went and asked that. I wanted to know Dutta's reply for that. Sply since he has three sisters and he can never see them being dumped after shaadi. So how come Nakku;s shaadi diff from theirs? Isnt she a woman?. Will ppl spare her from taunts ? Will Dutta come and shut everyone's mouths when Nakku leaves PN? Srsly is he a GOD to decide a person's fate? Babi was bang on with that Q.
What right does Dutta have on Nakku to dump her so bad? So what did he do to cover up his mistake? Offer them money ,place to live ? Kya bakwaas . He acts like a demi-god and its time someone tells him on his face that he aint god .........and he stop acting like one.
Neverthless all my frustration over Dutta vanished the moment I saw him sad in his room 😆......... I so adore that Gadha that inspite of so many blunders I root for his happiness 😆.
Anu
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

She wanted to ask AS and Dutta if a married woman can be so easily dumped. I really wished she went and asked that. I wanted to know Dutta's reply for that. Sply since he has three sisters and he can never see them being dumped after shaadi. So how come Nakku;s shaadi diff from theirs? Isnt she a woman?. Will ppl spare her from taunts ? Will Dutta come and shut everyone's mouths when Nakku leaves PN? Srsly is he a GOD to decide a person's fate? Babi was bang on with that Q.
What right does Dutta have on Nakku to dump her so bad? So what did he do to cover up his mistake? Offer them money ,place to live ? Kya bakwaas . He acts like a demi-god and its time someone tells him on his face that he aint god .........and he stop acting like one.
Neverthless all my frustration over Dutta vanished the moment I saw him sad in his room 😆......... I so adore that Gadha that inspite of so many blunders I root for his happiness 😆.
Anu




Exactly...I just wish someone esp Babi wud have questioned Dutta if its ok to dump his wife like that. What wud he have felt if one his sister's husband did what he did? He was attempting to play god's Naku's life since the wedding day. First wanting to control it...his words like she will die when he wants her to die pointed at that. and then now too when he tells her to forget that horrible night just as he has. From his flashbacks he obviously hasnt forgotten the night...so how can Naku do so irrespective of whether she is a dhokebaaz or not.
Also another question is what is the guarantee if Naku moves on with life...even gets married to another guy that her past with dutta will not follow her?
and anu gud point...babi wud have been guilty here if dutta wud have dumped her becuz of her looks/color but thats not the case here. both marrying naku and dumping her were dutta's decision over matters on which Naku or Babi had no hand.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002



Exactly...I just wish someone esp Babi wud have questioned Dutta if its ok to dump his wife like that. What wud he have felt if one his sister's husband did what he did? He was attempting to play god's Naku's life since the wedding day. First wanting to control it...his words like she will die when he wants her to die pointed at that. and then now too when he tells her to forget that horrible night just as he has. From his flashbacks he obviously hasnt forgotten the night...so how can Naku do so irrespective of whether she is a dhokebaaz or not.
Also another question is what is the guarantee if Naku moves on with life...even gets married to another guy that her past with dutta will not follow her?
and anu gud point...babi wud have been guilty here if dutta wud have dumped her becuz of her looks/color but thats not the case here. both marrying naku and dumping her were dutta's decision over matters on which Naku or Babi had no hand.

Looks like power got into Dutta's head .......thats why he doesnt realize that he is just a normal human and not God to decide someone's fate. He has become kind of arrogant bcause everyone around is scared of him and treat him like God.
Babi shouldve asked him that one Q afteast to please us. Even if Dutta doesnt answer her atleast that Q will haunt him badly. Uptil now he used to hear Dead-ppls voices .......... now he will hear Nakku and Babi's voices 😆.
Ya this is not Babi's mistake. Dutta-Nakkus realtion was never effected because of her decision so she is blameless in this case. Dutta never saw a woman's beauty to pursue a relation , he isnt so shallow. Hope Kishore asks Dutta if its right to dump a gilr like that.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I feel that Babi not asking or questioning Dutta is better. I feel that if she questions him he will feel comppelled to feel guilty and may chaqnge his mind as a rebound to being questioned.
We have seen Dutta in dilema about his feeling, and it this dilemea that will bring him closer to Naku. He needs to work it out for himself, only then will Naku get the true pure love that she so deserves. Only then will she harbour the ruits of her pain and tears. Any other way would be a cheated shortcut that she does not need. Dutta does not need anyone to tell him what need to be done, all he needs is his heart to waken up and tell him that the pain he is feeling is due to his distance from Naku.
At present, he knows that what he did was wrong. He also knows that Naku loves him. He is in a dilema because he cannot weigh up the fact that Naku could geniuinely love him after the torture he put her through. He actually feels that Naku would want to be released from him.
What ever Babi was doing in changing Naku's colour was done for her protection. In all cultures the stigma of being married and the marriage being broken is looked down at in society. This is worse when you are from a poor family and exploited. Naku has been exploited by Dutta and his family. Babi understands that Naku's future is bleak without Dutta.
Naku is right that without love on both sides this relationship has no meaning. Babi is right when she wants to stand up for her daughters future. Dutta thinks he is right by releasing Naku. The person whom is most wrong is Aai Sab. She prays on those beads and talks of peoples Naseeb being in their forhead but has made no attempt to rectify what wrong is happenning in her household
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anu-Reddy

Looks like power got into Dutta's head .......thats why he doesnt realize that he is just a normal human and not God to decide someone's fate. He has become kind of arrogant bcause everyone around is scared of him and treat him like God.
Babi shouldve asked him that one Q afteast to please us. Even if Dutta doesnt answer her atleast that Q will haunt him badly. Uptil now he used to hear Dead-ppls voices .......... now he will hear Nakku and Babi's voices 😆.
Ya this is not Babi's mistake. Dutta-Nakkus realtion was never effected because of her decision so she is blameless in this case. Dutta never saw a woman's beauty to pursue a relation , he isnt so shallow. Hope Kishore asks Dutta if its right to dump a gilr like that.
Anu



Babi isnt gone yet so I hope she does ask him the question. I wonder how a woman like Babi has kept quiet for so long given what all Naku has been subjected to.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: kshreya2002

Interesting thought...but Babi has every right to be angry. Dutta made the decision himself...its not as if they tried to influence him. In a fit of rage he married naku to get himself a punching bag. and now that he is not so sure of her guilt and also unable to carry out his revenge as he is grateful to her what does he do? he just dumps her and tells her to erase everything that happened and start life afresh so that he doesnt have to live with the burden of guilt of punishing an innocent. while maybe the past can be kind of erased in a new place with new people what abt naku's feelings? can those be erased at will? i think babi was more angry on account of naku's feelings and the fact that she might never be able to move on from him.
if u go to see in a way babi's worst fears came true despite all her precautions. a rich man used her daughter and then cast her aside when he had no need for her.



I totally see your point about her anger. But I honestly have to ask what did Babi expect? That Naku stay and get what? A husband who does not love her? A family that hates her? A marriage in which she was never accorded the rights or respect of a wife and bahu? That she never have a chance to be a mother?
Yes, Dutta made the decision...and Naku made the decision to allow it to happen. I will grant you that she did not have much of a choice (I do not fault her at all), but she could have stopped it...it would not have been easy...but it could have ended there and then. Maybe. But Naku went ahead with it out of her understanding of what he was going through, that she needed to be there to help him through this. That perhaps he would never let her go, because of his belief that she ruined his life. But, let's face it, this was a strange situation, leading to an "accidental" but destined marriage...what Naku said today was right and fair. I wish Babi had listened.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00



I totally see your point about her anger. But I honestly have to ask what did Babi expect? That Naku stay and get what? A husband who does not love her? A family that hates her? A marriage in which she was never accorded the rights or respect of a wife and bahu? That she never have a chance to be a mother?
Yes, Dutta made the decision...and Naku made the decision to allow it to happen. I will grant you that she did not have much of a choice (I do not fault her at all), but she could have stopped it...it would not have been easy...but it could have ended there and then. Maybe. But Naku went ahead with it out of her understanding of what he was going through, that she needed to be there to help him through this. That perhaps he would never let her go, because of his belief that she ruined his life. But, let's face it, this was a strange situation, leading to an "accidental" but destined marriage...what Naku said today was right and fair. I wish Babi had listened.




Naku was right from her POV. She loves him so much that living in a forced relationship with Dutta wud be painful for Naku. Naku wud rather live as his friend all her life rather than his wife as long as that relationship is not forced. But Babi cud only think of her daughter's heartbreak. Maybe she was hoping that with time Naku wud have been able to win Dutta's love and trust.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MBee

I feel that Babi not asking or questioning Dutta is better. I feel that if she questions him he will feel comppelled to feel guilty and may chaqnge his mind as a rebound to being questioned.
We have seen Dutta in dilema about his feeling, and it this dilemea that will bring him closer to Naku. He needs to work it out for himself, only then will Naku get the true pure love that she so deserves. Only then will she harbour the ruits of her pain and tears. Any other way would be a cheated shortcut that she does not need. Dutta does not need anyone to tell him what need to be done, all he needs is his heart to waken up and tell him that the pain he is feeling is due to his distance from Naku.
At present, he knows that what he did was wrong. He also knows that Naku loves him. He is in a dilema because he cannot weigh up the fact that Naku could geniuinely love him after the torture he put her through. He actually feels that Naku would want to be released from him.
What ever Babi was doing in changing Naku's colour was done for her protection. In all cultures the stigma of being married and the marriage being broken is looked down at in society. This is worse when you are from a poor family and exploited. Naku has been exploited by Dutta and his family. Babi understands that Naku's future is bleak without Dutta.
Naku is right that without love on both sides this relationship has no meaning. Babi is right when she wants to stand up for her daughters future. Dutta thinks he is right by releasing Naku. The person whom is most wrong is Aai Sab. She prays on those beads and talks of peoples Naseeb being in their forhead but has made no attempt to rectify what wrong is happenning in her household


MBee...welcome to the forum! Never seen u around here. Nicely expressed thoughts. And u maybe right...Dutta perhaps also thinks Naku wants to be released from him. afterall he didnt ASK her for marriage. She has said she never wanted to get him or win his love...after the judgement naku quietly agreed to his decision without a protest.
so maybe if the scene of naku returning the MS is a dream(or nightmare) of dutta's then i guess it will point to his feeling that naku too wants to be out of the relationship. thats why he feels she wud come to return the MS.

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