Karan as a husband: success or failure? - Page 4

Originally posted by: ndn_ash

i 100% agree with yah 😉 😉

same here

To clear further doubts, watch this episode, where Karan clearly tells Tanya he had fallen for her...and tht he had failed her...
http://www.badongo.com/vid.php?file=13TH+DEC+KYUKI+BY+JSSING H__2005-12-13_13th+dec+kyuki+by+js.wmv

Originally posted by: komal_life

if uknw nk's history u wont repeat such questions time n a g ain . like is aid karan's sin was 2 marry tanya and tht also under pressure and then when tulsi said u gave to accpet her as nandini wont come and tanya is yr wife iknw he was wrong but he got a very bad punishment for tht . period! we all knw wht he went thru , so i would take tht as a punishment for karan . coming to tanya wht on earth was she thinking all the time tht frgt it nandini is a history kra is mine now ! karan's mind had become num and stupped with nandini but hers was working 2 actively!

and wht did karan do in 20 yrs to her / beat her ? send her to prison ot wht >? all he couldnot do is love her . is tht a crime?he dosnt love ger means dosnt ! he knew he made a sin in even marrying her so wht to do kill karan bcause he didnt love the becahri tanya?FORGOD'S SAKE !and 20 yrs 20 yrs of tanay , sje lived a very luxuries life , karan never did any thign bad to her he always respected her till she showed her true colours.....y to nlame only karan ! we knw from beg karan's chracter is really weak he is totall uder his tulis' maa pressure and had raken oglif ation more over lobe its only in these past yrs he realised wht mistake did he make !every 1 makes miskateks and im not justifing him for the sin he did , but he got punished for it 2 lekin wht on earth is this MAHANNNN DEVI , SATI SAVITREI PAKEEZA NEEK TANYA DOING?.........................all the time making plans to keep nk apart? charcetrs like tanyas triptis and meera are totally redicilious, jave no self respect just they wau meera knew mihir love tulsi she kept falling on him same tanya had been doing and sad part is tanay knew very bit of nk's messed life she saw it by herself yet she made it even miserable!hats off to nk for being the most decent and dignified people ard ! and hatts off to karan for bearing tanya for so long! had he kicked her oi tht time only then yr question would have made sence tht yes he did bad to her but he didnt do tht infact he g ave her ever luxuty in the world only thing h e couldnt give her is himself his love ! and no 1 can force any 1 2 do tht

Don't like answering questions, please dont bother! I am tired of your "you cant force anybody to love" statements anyways! i never told Karan had to love tanya, but since he himself agreed tht he loved her in those 3 years, and tht he was guilty, he had an obligation towards tanya , to not make her feel tht she was not an integral part of his life!!It was Karan's mistake, tht he could not be honest to Nandini, tht he could not give Tanya the happiness!

The discussion is centred around whether or not Karan is a success in his duties as a spouse, which to me, means its in relation to Nandini. Tanya isn't even in the picture for me, she isn't his wife, she is the second lady!

It's only about Karan being fair to his wife (Nandini)! It's not about Tanya! And we have to admit, that he has been pre-posterously unfair to Nandini. Earlier, he had erred, now its rectified! He knows what he wants, and thats the Karan we had known and wanted! 😊

CoolKitty, as for your question about what Tanya's fault is, her fault is that she knew what she was getting into, she knew she was marrying somebody else's man, but now she pretends as though things have been grossly unfair to her! U may even excuse Karan for having been pressurised, but how would you excuse Tanya for having married her best friend's husband, inspite of her being alive?!

main ne aap dono k comments parhe to mujhe ye lagta hai k komal is rite agar hum past story line par ghor kare to taniya kahi se bechari nahi lage gi is liye k wo ye janti thi k KN loves eachother par wo unk bech aai ur humesha aati rahi sirf ur sirf karan ko pane k liye agar wo karan se pyar karti to kabhi bhi karan ko nandani se alag nahi karti par usne aisa kiya q k wo galat thi buri thi ab jaha tak karan ki baat hai to main yahi kahon gi k usne kabhi koi chiz buri nahi ki usne humesha wahi kiya hai jo usko usk ghar ne tulsi maa ne kaha usne kabhi apne aap kuch nahi socha usne apne se zada apne ghar ki khushi ko importance di hai iska andaza is baat se laga sakhte ho aap k jab usse laga k ghar ki khushi is me hai k nandani ki shadi ansh se ho to usne apne pyar ko tiyak diya phir usse taniya se shadi karni pari to wo bhi usne khud nahi kiya wo bhi usse tulsi ma ne kaha to mere khayal me to wo humesha theek hi raha hai is liye k uska charater hi aisa dekhaya gaya hai ur yaha phir main komal ki baat ko lao gi k uska charater weak dekhaya hai is liye sab hai to mere khayal se to taniya is the 1 who do all this

Originally posted by: coolkitty_23

when tanya tried to understand karan's feelings she never support to him .and when tanya kickout nandini from sn what karan did bad with her infact he stand against tulsi just because of tanya.and as you said its her jelousy so whats the differnce b/w ansh'slove towards nandini and tany's love towards karan. plus as you people are supporting tanya it proves infront of one side lovers if they didn't get their love they they shoud turn negative and did bad things with his or her love and with his or her family.

Adeela, correction, i am not supporting Tanya atall....trying to get a different perspective on wht karan does, DOES NOT mean supporting Tanya. I do not support wht she became, I though feel bad for how it turned out for her, which I agree, to a lot was her own doing!! Do not mis understand my words.
i cant understand why you people feel bad for her because in my opnion tanya showed infront of us bura admi bura hi rehta hai kabhi nahin sudharta because 20 years back she helped ansh for seprating karan nandini and now once again she turn negative for her one sided love.

Originally posted by: komal_life

hina, he falied as a husband to nandini, he had alwats been a fool to have listened to his maa even in beg he sac nandini for this tulsi !but tanay ????? crap man ? i dont even understand why is the fuss of 20 yrs of crting abt her? she wasnt told to stay karan never told her to stay and do allthis , she did it bec she wated 2 do it !but no 1 willever talk abt nk's life geing sacrificed 4 her

When have I made a fuss about 20 years, or about Tanya. I didn't even consider her in my post. There isn't a question of being fair to her or not, infact she doesnt even deserve the status that she has lavished for 20 years as Mrs Karan Virani! I merely left Tanya out of my post for I didn't feel the need to drag more of the unpleasantness into a healthy discussion.

Originally posted by: coolkitty_23

when tanya tried to understand karan's feelings she never support to him .and when tanya kickout nandini from sn what karan did bad with her infact he stand against tulsi just because of tanya.and as you said its her jelousy so whats the differnce b/w ansh'slove towards nandini and tany's love towards karan. plus as you people are supporting tanya it proves infront of one side lovers if they didn't get their love they they shoud turn negative and did bad things with his or her love and with his or her family.

I totally agree what you said underlined in red.

I dont think if I was in Karans place, I would ever be able to forget my past love (Nandani), Tanya did give 20 years of her life for him, but what did Bhumia dn Manthan turn out to be? 2 spoilt brats. It was totally not Karans fault, he didn't do anything, he couldn't forget his love, and also, he tried to bring the best in his children, so if they did something wrong, they would learn from them (ex. When Manthan was drinking (drugs) he went jail for drugs and Karan taught him his lesson, but Tanya spoils him and takes him out of Prison, another one where Bhumi was about to kill Tulsi!!! And she accidently shooted Eklavya, she went into jail, but Tanya wanted Bhumi to get out of jail but Tulsi bailed her out)

Tanya did alot for Karan but she should understand that it is hard to forget your first love, she should understand that Karan only loves Nandani, but she didn't seem to realise or understand that. But I guess it was hard for her as she married Karan for the sake of Bhumi & to be there for Karan.! But still, Karan should have still have realised earlier that Tanya gave out 20 years of her life for him and for the children, Bhumi and Manthan, lekin phir be...

Tanya wasnt a very good wife, she spoilt the children, didnt care if they did wrong things, went against her mother-in-law, didnt really bother when Karan realised that he had to forget his Past, etc.

And Karan wasnt a very good husband as he didnt relalise what Tanya did for him for 20 years of her life, and meeting Nandani, without realising that he has to be with his wife and not be meeting his past, etc.

Karan: His good qualities were that he taught the children a lesson, he cared for his children, when he realised that he had to forget his Past, with Nandani, he tried to be a good husband to Tanya.

Tanya: The good qualities about her was that she gave 20 years of her life for Karan and was always there for him and was a good mother to the children even though she really spoilt them.

So they both have good and bad qualities about them. But it still wen Karan realised that he had to forget his past for tanya, he did, but what did Tanya do, had some misunderstanding but didnt try to clear it out but instead made it even more complicated!!!! And even said soo many bad things about KARANS MOM that she knows that her words would hurt Karan as Karan is very close to Tulsi, and says things that ''I Wish Tulsi was dead'' thats just very horrible to say to her husband, and about his mother tulsi!

[quote=adeela (Page1)] NANDINI BHOOMI SAID TO HER CHARACTERLESS WOMAN,I NEVER EXCEPT YOU AS A
MOTHER AND TUM ABTAK GAYEN NAHIN BUT NANNDINI DIDN'T SAY TO HER ANYTHING JUST FOR TANYA. and tanya she was using bhoomi against nandini.

NOW PLZZZZ TELLME HOW KARAN FORGET NANDINI AND MOVE ON WITH TANYA.IN WHICH ANGLE TANYA DESERVES KARAN' LOVE PLZ TELl ME.

and in which angle tanya truely loves with karan.she loves with karan thats why she is always blackmailing him,pushing him i gave you 20 years of my .life thats why mujhe pyar karo,i loook after your children thats why mujhe pyar karo sacha pyar karne wale ehsan jata kar pyar nahin mangte.she loves karan thats why she kickout nandini from sn.if you truely loves with somone then your happiness is your lover happiness not like tanya zbardasti pyar karo.she loves karan thats why she said to him apni thakan guest room main jaa kar mitalo.she loves karan thats why she said for tulsi infront of him maar jati to acha hota wapis kyun ayen infact she knew it very well what is the meaning of tulsi in karan'slife.she loves karan thats why she canceled jewerlly order .she loves karan thats why first she herself kickout nandini from sn but still taunting over karan you were not here because you were deep in your thought and obviuosly you were thinking abt nandini .shameles woman if you know nandini is stll leaving in karan's heart then whynot you left him that means you have no selfrespect.she loves him thats why when karan deeply in hurt with his behaviour towards tulsi and mhir and saw bhoomi with abhir instead of supporting him she was planning how to take revange with tulsi.

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I totally agree with you there!! Everything you said there was just right, because even I would've said that if I could have the energy to type alot, lol Anyways, I said what I said, but wow! Theres very good discussion here, so many good points people are making! 👏

Love, Simra x

He failed ONLY for Nandani. I have stated my reasons. A selfish woman like Tanya who married an already married man deserves what is coming to her. You sow what you reap. What comes around, goes around.

20 years ago she wanted Karan to be hers and would do anything to prove that he is married to her too, even if it meant killing Nandani.

Now the same thing is happening to her. The only d/f is that Nandani isn't doing it intentionally. Rather, she is his true friend by staying away and reminding him of his duties to Tanya and his family.

20 years ago did Tanya ever tell Karan to stay away from her when he came to her? NO. Because SHE would be the one to call him.

As a father, he's been horrible to Manthan. But again, what has Manthan done to deserve his father's love?

When Tulsi came back to SN, he plotted to make sure that Mihir-Tulsi don't reunite, unlike Laksh-KT.

He was ALWAYS disrespectful to Baa and the elders. And when he would disrespect Baa, it would always be Karan to scold him while Tanya would get hurt that Karan is scolding her precious son.

Karan is a mamma's boy. He was never a good husband. He DOES NOT deserve a woman like Nandani. He deserves someone like Tanya who will make miserable and make him realize WHAT PRECIOUS GEM HE LOST WHEN HE MARRIED THE SELFISH TANYA.

I am ONLY watching this show because I am a Hiten-Gauri fan and Nandani fan.

Humaira

Originally posted by: coolkitty_23

For once, I woudn't and secondly ever wonder tht karan could have chosen to live alone too?? it was his life, his children and above all, his love....if anything, i will agree, tht he fell short before Nandini too!

whts da use of this discussion yaar??kn are dying nxt week.

i support all da kn fans. kn hav alwayz sacrificed their luv 4 tanya.tanya is worse than even ansh.whateva he did,he did in front of all bt this tanya has alwayz bakstabbed them.

she is like a chameleon,who keeps on changing her colour accor 2 wot suits her.