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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolkitty_23

Disclaimer: All K-N fans, please do not attack me with comments of karan cant be wrong or kn are best, we all know tht..i am just asking you to look at it from a different perspective. And yes, I am not saying tanya was right to do ugly bad things against tulsi, i am not even talking abt those things. Please feel free to share open minded comments and correct me if I am wrong anywhere.


I have watched kyunki since its inception days and I know the whole history of the KNT triangle etc. But I feel Karan, even though succeeded as a lover, friend, son, father etc, I think he really fell short off being an ideal husband. We all know the history of how Tanya remained married to karan, with all of Nandini's sacrifice etc, but for 20 years, karan really did not give Tanya a wife's place, he never really gave it even a chance. Agreed he loved Nandini, but wht was Tanya's fault in those 20 years for not being accepted by Karan as his wife, as someone who rightfully deserved his love?? He hardly made an effort to be a good husband, how much did he expect from Tanya, to give her love and bring up bhoomi n manthan and not get anything in return? Living for 20 years knowing tht your husband isnt yours tht he still loves his old flame,even though he is married to you, no woman in tanya's place can take it, No one!! Wasn't he selfish to marry her for bhoomi's sake, if he didn't love her, he didnt need to marry her, he could have had a maid or his mother itself to care for her? Even if he consumated his marriage against his wish, he did so, and right there at that point, in his mind was Tanya, not Nandini.
May be , for one sec, even though its just a serial, put yourself in Tanya's place, would you have not done anything n everything remotely possible by you to make your husband, yours, wholeheartedly?? And finally, when he tried to make an effort, he did not even tell Tanya what and why he and Nandini decided not to be with each other, all tht did was create more misunderstanding..and ultimately ruin their marriage.




you have said it. totally agreed.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: AryanDipikaFan



you have said it. totally agreed.



Thanks Aryan 😳
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Posted: 18 years ago
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i totally disagree with you.its totally tanya's fault she knew it very well on her first day of marriage karan was agreed to marry with him just for bhoomi's sake and first first three years he didn't gives her wifes rights when tulsi came back after completing her 3 years prision she said to him then he gave her wifes rights but when nandini was comeback from coma docter called him he left tanya in their wedding anniversary and happiliy went to met nandini.when nandini was faint when she read his diary karan told infront of tulsi and tanya maine woh sare rishte khatam kardoga jo mere aur nandini ke beech ayen ge.when nandini got 14 years prision karan told him clearly you will never takes place nandi's place in my heart .then why not tanya except it nandini is karan's life and i am nothing infront of nandini in karan's life.then whynot she left him.thata means she is the most chipko woman.zabadasti pyar karo tanya said to karan so many times when nmandini will retuen i will leave you but she never fulfil her promise ,she said to karan i always respect your and nandini's love oh thats why she kicked out nandini from sn that means she is a biggest lier.plus when she knew abt nandini's marriage she said so many bad things to nandini then why not she was happy in that time and if she was sincerely thinking abt karan thats why she said so many bad things to her then why not she is happy right now and reunite karan nandini.no she was showing jelousy that meanshe is a double standard woman.

as you are talking abt giving a chance why you all forget when karan made a decision living with tanya he wanted to moved on with her.but what tanya did with him.

Exactly, wht did she do?? she couldnt have done much, bcoz she never knew karan decided to be with her...she is not a mind reader now! why you forget karan asked her tumhe mujhe chor ke jane main meri khushi hai then tanya said tumhari kushi ke liye main tumhe chordongi but i cant live without you .then karan said to her tum mujhe kabhi chor kar najana and hugged her.but when mandira called to tanya she told her abt karan nandini then why tanya went to nandini's house whnot he believed karan after all tanya sped 20 yers with him and she knew it very well karan never lie to her .plus when she saw karan nandini hugged with each other and thought now nandini wanna come back in karan's life then why not tanya left karan as she said

to karan so many times when nandini will retuen i will leave you but she never fulfil her promise ,she said to karan i always respect your and nandini's love oh thats why she kicked out nandini from sn that means she is a biggest lier.plus when she knew abt nandini's marriage she said so many bad things to nandini then why not she was happy in that time and if she was sincerely thinking abt karan thats why she said so many bad things to her then why not she is happy right now and reunite karan nandini.no she was showing jelousy that means she is a double standard woman.

and as you are talking abt what tanya did .first she herself kickout nandini from sn.

tanya said to karan i said you were not here because you were deep in your thought and obviously you were thinking abt nandini.

shameless woman if you thinks karan still loves nandini and she is still living in his herat then why not you left him.that means you have no selfrespect.

plus she said to him i gave you and your family 20 yares of my life.

oh thats why karan ko zabardsssasti tanya se pyar karna parega.

she said to karan i always respest your and nandini's love.

oh thats why you kicked out nandini from sn.

LOOKT AT KARAN'S SITUATION.AND COMPARING B/W NANDINI AND TANYA.
NANDINI WHO SHOWED INFRONT OF HIM HER FAKE MARRIAGE JUST FOR TANYA AND WHEN KARAN KNEW ABT IT HE WANTS HER RETURN IN HIS LIFE BUT NANDINI GAVE HIM 24 HOURS ULTIMATE BECAUSE SHE WANTS KARAN WILL REALISE TANYA GAVE HIM 20 YEARS OF HER LIFE AND ITS NOT EASY YOU WILL BREAK YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HER.
TANYA WHO SAID TO KARAN EK AURAT SaBKUCH BARDASHT KATRSAKI HAI DOSRI AURAT NAHIN THEN WHY NOT YOU WERE THINKING ABT NANDINI WHEN YOU WAS MARRIED WITH KARAN AND NANDINI IS KARAN'S FIRST WIFE YOU ARE KARAN'S SECOND WIFE PLUS SHE SAID TO HIM NANDINI LEFT YOU 20 YEARS BACK TANYA NANDINI LEFT HIM BECAUSE SHE GOT 14 YEARS PRISION NOT FOR HER OWN WISH AND THAT MEANS IN TAHT TIME YOU WERE THINKING NOW KARAN IS ONLLY MINE AND NANDINI WILL NEVER COME BACK.
NANDINI IN one episode EPISODE KARAN SAID TO HER KABHI KABHI TO MANN KARTAHAI SUB KUCH BULAKAR AND NMANDINI STOPPED HIM AND SAID TO HIM TUMHE APNE AAJ MAIN REHNA HAI.
TANYA WHEN KARAN SAID AAJ BUHAT THAK GAYAN HOON SHE SAID TO HIM TO APNI THAKAN GUeST ROOM MAIN JAKAR MITALO AND MERA HUSBAND MERI DOST SE PYAR KARTA HAI,USE KABHI NA BULNE KA dAwA KARTA HAI.TANYA WHY NOT YOU WERE THINKING ABT NANDINI HOW WAS NANDINI'S SITUATION WHEN SHE KNeW MY BEST FRIEND WAS MARRIED WITH MY HUSBAND.BUT LOOK AT NANDINI SHE NEVER ASKED HIM ANYTHING ABT HIS AND TANYA'S MARRIAGE INFACT WHEN WHEN KARAN WENT TO MET HER in jail she ALWAYS SAID TO HIM TANYA DESERVES ALL HAPPINESS AND LOOK AT TANYA'S BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS NANDINI.
NANDINI TULSI WAS INSULTING HER INFRONT OF EVERYONE BUT NANDINI DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABT HER.
TANYA SHE SAID TO KARAN TUMHARI MAA WAPIS KYUN AYEN MAR KYUN NAHIN GAYEN.
NANDINI BHOOMI SAID TO HER CHARACTERLESS WOMAN,I NEVER EXCEPT YOU AS A
MOTHER AND TUM ABTAK GAYEN NAHIN BUT NANNDINI DIDN'T SAY TO HER ANYTHING JUST FOR TANYA. and tanya she was using bhoomi against nandini.

I dont understand this, how and where did she use bhoomi against Nandini? yeah, she kept quite, which was wrong, but how did tht become using her??why you forget she said to bhoomi nandini karan ki zindagi main wapis ana chati hai and she always portrayed infront of bhoomi and manthan her one sided story thatys why bhoomi and manthan called nandini dusri aurat.

NOW PLZZZZ TELLME HOW KARAN FORGET NANDINI AND MOVE ON WITH TANYA.IN WHICH ANGLE TANYA DESERVES KARAN' LOVE PLZ TELl ME.

The angle of having been there for those 20 years, when karan and his kids needed someone to care of them n the house! Any body will come down to blackmail if they see tht the 20 years they selflessly gave to another person, is for nothing. it is not too much if tanya asks karan not to go after having lived with her for 20 years! if karan hasnt been able to forget nandini in 20 years, then tanya who also loved karan, how can she let go of him?? tanya herself choose that kind of life because karan told her clearly you will never takes place nandini's place in my heart then why not tanya left karan in that time she herself choose living with that man who madly in loves with her first wife and eagerly waiting of her return plus in whole 20 years karan never gives her high hopes .and as you are talking abt anybody come down to blackmail not every body only selfish person like tanya .and as you said selflessly its totally wrong because in whole 20 years she was demanding him love .if she was not demanding him anyting then we said selflessly took care of karan and his children.

and in which angle tanya truely loves with karan.she loves with karan thats why she is always blackmailing him,pushing him i gave you 20 years of my .life thats why mujhe pyar karo,i loook after your children thats why mujhe pyar karo sacha pyar karne wale ehsan jata kar pyar nahin mangte.

Sacche pyaar karne wale choubis ghante ka mahurat bhi nehi dete..aur agar apne pyaar ko bachane ke liye, ehsan jatana pade, to harz hi kya hai??nandini ne 24 ghante ka time srif aur srif karan ko isliye deua tha tajke woh tanya ke saath 20 aaal ke saath ko ralise karpaye aur sacha pyar kane wale kabhi bhi ehsan nahin jatate kynki un ki kushi srif aur srif jise woh pyar karte hain use khush dekne main hoti tanya ki tarah nahin zabardsati pyar karo.

she loves karan thats why she kickout nandini from sn.if you truely loves with somone then your happiness is your lover happiness not like tanya zbardasti pyar karo.she loves karan thats why she said to him apni thakan guest room main jaa kar mitalo.she loves karan thats why she said for tulsi infront of him maar jati to acha hota wapis kyun ayen infact she knew it very well what is the meaning of tulsi in karan'slife.she loves karan thats why she canceled jewerlly order .she loves karan thats why first she herself kickout nandini from sn but still taunting over karan you were not here because you were deep in your thought and obviuosly you were thinking abt nandini .shameles woman if you know nandini is stll leaving in karan's heart then whynot you left him that means you have no selfrespect.she loves him thats why when karan deeply in hurt with his behaviour towards tulsi and mhir and saw bhoomi with abhir instead of supporting him she was planning how to take revange with tulsi.


Your sarcasm amazes me.As for wht she did and said, thts purely out of jealousy, and Karan never gave a thought to why she felt tht way, he never tried to understand Tanya's feelings and emotions. She turned mean and when you r seeting with anger n jealousy, you are bound to say things tht are ugly.

when tanya tried to understand karan's feelings she never support to him .and when tanya kickout nandini from sn what karan did bad with her infact he stand against tulsi just because of tanya.and as you said its her jelousy so whats the differnce b/w ansh'slove towards nandini and tany's love towards karan. plus as you people are supporting tanya it proves infront of one side lovers if they didn't get their love they they shoud turn negative and did bad things with his or her love and with his or her family.
Edited by adeela - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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hi,

if i marry a person , whom i loved, against his wish, i dont become a devi..

tanya always loved karan, but knew karan loved ONLY nandini. she married karan , fully knowing that she wont have any place in his life. she is plane shameless, nothing else.

after nandini was back also, she pretended to go back, but never went for good. it was nandini who did the sacrifice.

karan was a reasonably good husband, considering that he never loved tanya. he gave her a home, family, and respect. he cudnt do justice to nandini, though... even when he loved her so much...

tanya got whatever she wanted, but karan cudnt give her smething, which he didnt have. his heart was with nandini, so he didnt give it to tanya, is it his fault?????

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Posted: 18 years ago
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yeah, well said, dude! 😉
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Posted: 18 years ago
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when tanya tried to understand karan's feelings she never support to him .and when tanya kickout nandini from sn what karan did bad with her infact he stand against tulsi just because of tanya.and as you said its her jelousy so whats the differnce b/w ansh'slove towards nandini and tany's love towards karan. plus as you people are supporting tanya it proves infront of one side lovers if they didn't get their love they they shoud turn negative and did bad things with his or her love and with his or her family.

Adeela, correction, i am not supporting Tanya atall....trying to get a different perspective on wht karan does, DOES NOT mean supporting Tanya. I do not support wht she became, I though feel bad for how it turned out for her, which I agree, to a lot was her own doing!! Do not mis understand my words.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Komal_life,
I know the history of the KNT triangle, It has been repeated so many times, I almost know it by heart! Anyways, talking abt forcing someone to love, well I never said Tanya should force Karan to love her, the fact that, he willingly consumated his marriage on somebody elses suggestion (yuck) and then never bothered to understand wht tht person would feel, is rather selfish. Also the fact that he never gave Tanya n her feelings a chance, and when he did, it was too late. Not always things can work when karan wants them too...

And I want to emphasis on one statement : I for one do not support wht Tanya has done to Tulsi and Nandini, it is not abt wht she did, its abt how Karan dealt with her for 20 years! Ppl, please understand tht, this is not against KN.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: achuv

hi,

if i marry a person , whom i loved, against his wish, i dont become a devi..

tanya always loved karan, but knew karan loved ONLY nandini. she married karan , fully knowing that she wont have any place in his life. she is plane shameless, nothing else.

after nandini was back also, she pretended to go back, but never went for good. it was nandini who did the sacrifice.

karan was a reasonably good husband, considering that he never loved tanya. he gave her a home, family, and respect. he cudnt do justice to nandini, though... even when he loved her so much...

tanya got whatever she wanted, but karan cudnt give her smething, which he didnt have. his heart was with nandini, so he didnt give it to tanya, is it his fault?????


It is his fault since, he expected Tanya to do so much for his house and in turn she never got the status of his wife, from his heart! and tht is his fault. Doesnt it show tht Karan has a far more weaker heart than Nandini does, she realises the importance of the 20 years Tanys gave and she did not want to disturb tht, and Karan on the other hand merrily took tanya for granted! My question again, wht happened to karan's own thinking when he was asked and pressurized to marry Tanya, all he thought abt was bhoomi, why not think once abt wht it would make Tanya and tht he was getting into something life long only to suit his needs? and I though will say, tanya is one non-self respecting character, but no one still seems to be able to see her part of the sacrifice!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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The very fact that he has indulged in bigamy, proves that he is a failure as a husband.

His marriage to Tanya, according to me is void, so I'm not going to point that aspect.

As for his real wife, Nandini, he has failed miserably. The fact that he had to marry again for his daughter's upbringing when there were 6 other women in the household who merely traipsed around in glitter saris, is ridiculous. The reasons are implausible, and so was the track of his wedding to Tanya.

All in all, Karan's character has been flawed. It lost its integrity when the track of 'oh my mother matters the most to me so I'm giving away the love of my life' and 'I'll marry Tanya for Bhoomi' came in.

But all said and done, after the leap his character changed. Now I think he is lovely. Not because he loves Nandini, but because he is man enough to admit that Tanya means nothing to him, she was and will remain at the pedestal of a friend (which she isn't even worth currectly with her fretting and fuming). The realization of what his real wife deserves seem to have dawned on him.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: whimsical_soul

The very fact that he has indulged in bigamy, proves that he is a failure as a husband.

His marriage to Tanya, according to me is void, so I'm not going to point that aspect.

As for his real wife, Nandini, he has failed miserably. The fact that he had to marry again for his daughter's upbringing when there were 6 other women in the household who merely traipsed around in glitter saris, is ridiculous. The reasons are implausible, and so was the track of his wedding to Tanya.

All in all, Karan's character has been flawed. It lost its integrity when the track of 'oh my mother matters the most to me so I'm giving away the love of my life' and 'I'll marry Tanya for Bhoomi' came in.

But all said and done, after the leap his character changed. Now I think he is lovely. Not because he loves Nandini, but because he is man enough to admit that Tanya means nothing to him, she was and will remain at the pedestal of a friend (which she isn't even worth currectly with her fretting and fuming). The realization of what his real wife deserves seem to have dawned on him.



Couldnt agree more with you!

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