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Posted: 18 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: BabyStone

Okay before you get mad, just listen to what i'm trying to say.

Damini brought up a few good points in her little chat with her hubby Gautam. Even though Gautam is Mihir and Tulsi's own blood, Karan always does everything for them.

Because Gautam never did anything for his parents but always caused trouble

Originally posted by: BabyStone


Even though Gautam and Sahil are capable of doing it as well.

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But did they ever do anything..no one stopped them from helping. Once when Sahil helped Karan & SN in solving some money problem (regarding Mihir's law case with some company) didn't mihir give him Rs.2 mill and everyone appreciated him

Karan did not ask them ...they came to him saying they will help him and later acted as their wives told them...still Karan did not tell his Parents that they were not helping

Mihir did not help any of his grandkids, Karan's kids or Sahil's kids, He was drinking and crying for Tulsi...before the 20yrs leap upon Sahils insistence he split his business to all his kids equally....Karan was successful, while Sahil lost everything..so why should Mihir help only Sahil..it was Sahil's foolishness he lost everything


I don't think Gautham & Sahil are a least bit guilty for taking Tulsi's money & for mistreating their parents.

In the end all that matters as Lakshya said that you get credit only if you get the work done.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#22
Hi Folks,
What is all this everyone is fighting about. The whole money issue is a tricky one and legally has come down from Shri Govardhanji (grandfather of Mihir, and Ba's husband). SN existed then and is also existing now. The Virani business empire is an extention of the Govardhanji's business.
None of the people now in SN, except BA, can claim absolute possesion of the property, since Ba is the legal heir, being Govardhanji's wife.
For the rest it is an inherited one (after the death of Ba) and as per the Indian law all the legal heirs have equal rights. Under such a circumstance, Karan, Eklayva,Tanya,Bhumi could be the losers.
In addition to all this please note that no one can just transfer all property by just signing 1 peice of paper and say " aaj se yeh sab kuch tumhara hua". It has to also undergo a process, with the consent of BA, who is the whole and legal heir of the entire property unless she has transferred this to some one with the consent of all other legal heirs. Even a power of attorney will not serve the purpose. So i really wonder how Karan, Tanya, and some others claim possesion of the entire property, making the actual heirs beg for money.
However if anyone has started their own business like this catering one of Mihir-Tulsi, then, no others have any stake in that unless it is proved that BA or Govardhanji are the founders of this
Lets not get into all these who is who because it is a total mess up of relations, each Virani man, starting from Mihir's generation have 2 or more relations/wives and still maintain Maryada Purushottam (Lord Rama) status, and claiming Rama-Sita jodi.
Take examples of Mihir(2 wives-Tulsi & Mandira, and 1 affair with Meera), Karan (3 wives), Sahil(2 wives) Gautam(2 wives),Ansh (2 wives), Bhumi(2 men in life till now)
Ekta and group- please donot tarnish the image of Lord Rama and Sita, alongwith the rest of the charachters of our great Epics.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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and the truth is that no matter what:

you should be with your parents and give them your support. parents raise you, provide you with their love and support, and this is NOT how you act with them.

Karan does get the credit but Karan goes through the PAIN of providing them the support too. Since Karan has found out that Tulsi is a good human being, he has been there for her through her ups and downs, when even MIHIR wasn't there for her.

He was ready to sacrifice his child so his mom can have justice. Whereas Gautam threw a fit over Damini giving his child to Sahil.

Yes, he let Bhoomi and Tanya influence him at one point but he realized his mistakes. But have Sahil and Gautam realized their mistakes?

And Sahil got the division b/n the 3 houses, and when he split up and set his own business, he failed as a businessman whereas Karan SUCCEEDED. Which is why Gautam became Karan's sidekick because Karan was successful and Sahil wasn't.

Where has Gautam tried to prove himself as the elder of the house? He is elder than Karan but it is Karan always who has been there as the TRUE son to Tulsi. Was Gautam there for Tulsi when Mihir kicked her out?

Sahil is the same age as Karan but has Sahil proven himself in anyway like Karan?

And now Sahil-Gautam are complaining about Karan getting the blessings and credit. But hello? When Karan had come to them and they said yes, why did they get influenced by their wives? Why didn't they realize what their wives were trying to do like Karan did?

Its like Lakshya said in Aug 22 episode:

You can only get credit and blessings by being there for the adults when they need you the most.

And I'll add to his dialogue:

To get credit and blessings of parents, you also have to face a lot of difficulties but at the end, still be there for your parents, like Karan has.

Originally posted by: BabyStone

Okay before you get mad, just listen to what i'm trying to say.

Damini brought up a few good points in her little chat with her hubby Gautam. Even though Gautam is Mihir and Tulsi's own blood, Karan always does everything for them. Even though Gautam and Sahil are capable of doing it as well. Karan as never bothered asking if they wanted to be apart of something but now that he has nothing he comes pleeding to them. In the office Gautam and Sahil do a lot of work yet Karan gets the credit.

Tripti told Sahil that Mihir has never tried to help Sahil, which he hasnt. For the 20 years that Tulsi wasnt in the house Mihir was and regardless he did not try to help Sahil finacially or in any other way. Yet aparently he graduated from any ivy league school.

I'm not saying that I hate Karan or I'm against him, but when you look at carefully all these things are true but they go unnoticed. Dont you think?

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Posted: 18 years ago
#24

You are getting all technical here. And in Ekta's serial, there is no such thing as real-life law 😆

This is the story:

Baa's husband is the sole owner. When he died, he passed it down to his 3 sons who transferred it all over to Mihir's father.

When Mihir's father passed away, he transferred all of his property and money to Karan.

Then when there were quarrels in the house between Karan, Gautam, and Sahil (when Mihir-Tulsi were out of town) Gujral took the opportunity and bought their shares and their business.

Because Gujral wanted Bhoomi and Nandani back, he used to threaten them about leaving them on the streets, etc. In fear of Bhoomi being affected by Gujral, Nandani killed him.

In Gujral's will, Nandani had share and was care-taker of Bhoomi's share as well 75% of it had gone to Nandani and Bhoomi. The rest of the 25% had gone to Shraddha, Eklavya's birth mother.

Now I'm guessing when Nandani went to jail, she transferred it all to Karan and Tulsi to take care of the money because Karan was Bhoomi's legal guardian.

Simple.

Originally posted by: rangam1933b

Hi Folks,
What is all this everyone is fighting about. The whole money issue is a tricky one and legally has come down from Shri Govardhanji (grandfather of Mihir, and Ba's husband). SN existed then and is also existing now. The Virani business empire is an extention of the Govardhanji's business.
None of the people now in SN, except BA, can claim absolute possesion of the property, since Ba is the legal heir, being Govardhanji's wife.
For the rest it is an inherited one (after the death of Ba) and as per the Indian law all the legal heirs have equal rights. Under such a circumstance, Karan, Eklayva,Tanya,Bhumi could be the losers.
In addition to all this please note that no one can just transfer all property by just signing 1 peice of paper and say " aaj se yeh sab kuch tumhara hua". It has to also undergo a process, with the consent of BA, who is the whole and legal heir of the entire property unless she has transferred this to some one with the consent of all other legal heirs. Even a power of attorney will not serve the purpose. So i really wonder how Karan, Tanya, and some others claim possesion of the entire property, making the actual heirs beg for money.
However if anyone has started their own business like this catering one of Mihir-Tulsi, then, no others have any stake in that unless it is proved that BA or Govardhanji are the founders of this
Lets not get into all these who is who because it is a total mess up of relations, each Virani man, starting from Mihir's generation have 2 or more relations/wives and still maintain Maryada Purushottam (Lord Rama) status, and claiming Rama-Sita jodi.
Take examples of Mihir(2 wives-Tulsi & Mandira, and 1 affair with Meera), Karan (3 wives), Sahil(2 wives) Gautam(2 wives),Ansh (2 wives), Bhumi(2 men in life till now)
Ekta and group- please donot tarnish the image of Lord Rama and Sita, alongwith the rest of the charachters of our great Epics.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: BabyStone

Okay before you get mad, just listen to what i'm trying to say.

Damini brought up a few good points in her little chat with her hubby Gautam. Even though Gautam is Mihir and Tulsi's own blood, Karan always does everything for them. Even though Gautam and Sahil are capable of doing it as well. Karan as never bothered asking if they wanted to be apart of something but now that he has nothing he comes pleeding to them. In the office Gautam and Sahil do a lot of work yet Karan gets the credit.

Tripti told Sahil that Mihir has never tried to help Sahil, which he hasnt. For the 20 years that Tulsi wasnt in the house Mihir was and regardless he did not try to help Sahil finacially or in any other way. Yet aparently he graduated from any ivy league school.

I'm not saying that I hate Karan or I'm against him, but when you look at carefully all these things are true but they go unnoticed. Dont you think?

Hey when I read your post I see that yoou have expressed your feelings and there is nothing wrong with it. However, Let me tell you a couple of things for the sake of clarification:

First of all Sahil and Gautam DID have many chances to prove themselves and they blew every one of them. For example, the latest one. For God's sake, they did not care about what would have ahppened to their mother when that psycho moved next door. It was Karan who went to the extreme to rescue his mom form this evil. He was so considerate about how his mom got terrified everytime Thakaral's name came up. Did these two wimps even think about any of that?

Moreover, I dont know if you have been watching the serial all along or not but it was Sahil who asked for batwara (seperation). Mihir did not want the family to devide but because of that vamp Tripti Sahil wanted his share and if he blew all teh money out as a result became poor what do you expect Mihir to do? Parents always want their children to learn from their mistakes. So I agree with Mihir. Not one, not two but Sahil has made a mountain of mistakes and if he is in this situation or was in a situation it is all due to him not anyone else.

Now about Karan, I belive he has proven himself from time to time that he cares about this family from his heart. At least he is not a total waste like Gautam and Sahil who are complete wimps. He is getting credit because he deserves it the most. 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: desiflavour101

and the truth is that no matter what:

you should be with your parents and give them your support. parents raise you, provide you with their love and support, and this is NOT how you act with them.

Karan does get the credit but Karan goes through the PAIN of providing them the support too. Since Karan has found out that Tulsi is a good human being, he has been there for her through her ups and downs, when even MIHIR wasn't there for her.

He was ready to sacrifice his child so his mom can have justice. Whereas Gautam threw a fit over Damini giving his child to Sahil.

Yes, he let Bhoomi and Tanya influence him at one point but he realized his mistakes. But have Sahil and Gautam realized their mistakes?

And Sahil got the division b/n the 3 houses, and when he split up and set his own business, he failed as a businessman whereas Karan SUCCEEDED. Which is why Gautam became Karan's sidekick because Karan was successful and Sahil wasn't.

Where has Gautam tried to prove himself as the elder of the house? He is elder than Karan but it is Karan always who has been there as the TRUE son to Tulsi. Was Gautam there for Tulsi when Mihir kicked her out?

Sahil is the same age as Karan but has Sahil proven himself in anyway like Karan?

And now Sahil-Gautam are complaining about Karan getting the blessings and credit. But hello? When Karan had come to them and they said yes, why did they get influenced by their wives? Why didn't they realize what their wives were trying to do like Karan did?

Its like Lakshya said in Aug 22 episode:

You can only get credit and blessings by being there for the adults when they need you the most.

And I'll add to his dialogue:

To get credit and blessings of parents, you also have to face a lot of difficulties but at the end, still be there for your parents, like Karan has.

well said!! 👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: rad_rose

dear watch kyunki from began to get to know what karan did to sahil & gautam when karan grandfather die i mean mihir father mansook virani he give his holl mony & business in karan name but karan give it to his other 4 bothorers when gutuam try to take nakul from sahil & ganga karan is the only one person turn agiants his own blood gutuam and back nakul to sahil & ganga in court & when mandra kindnaap gutuam karan is the one but his life on the resk leave SN & turn agints his own mother & save gutuam gutuam was very close from dearth and karan save him the is long long list what karan did of his own bother sahil & gutuam befor u post anythings watch kyunki in starvistav to get the ditles about what karan did for his family no one did it ok and first of all don't forget that SN was belong to karan & he allowed his bothers with thers wives to live in same house

wow never knew that i havent watched kyunki from beginning

so karan did a lof for this 2 useless brothers

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Posted: 18 years ago
#28
Yaa karan did a lot to SN family & to his parents.. After Baa, Tulsi , Karan is the best character in kyuni morethen Mahiri, as mahiri mostly influence by his mom, or meera or mandira, or family members, he is not allways supportive to tulsi whearas karan & baa are..

So Comparing karan with Sahil & gautham is the waste point, as when tulsi say that manthan is rapist & put him in jail, karan din't go against tulsi, but when mayanak who is the actual rapist , is sent to hospital even though tulsi is saying i din't do that..Gautham is against tulsi he didn't believe her...

After that karan also against tulsi, but for sometime, & proved his love for his parents.That's that best thing of karan's character..
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Posted: 18 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: desiflavour101

You are getting all technical here. And in Ekta's serial, there is no such thing as real-life law 😆

This is the story:

Baa's husband is the sole owner. When he died, he passed it down to his 3 sons who transferred it all over to Mihir's father.

When Mihir's father passed away, he transferred all of his property and money to Karan.

Then when there were quarrels in the house between Karan, Gautam, and Sahil (when Mihir-Tulsi were out of town) Gujral took the opportunity and bought their shares and their business.

Because Gujral wanted Bhoomi and Nandani back, he used to threaten them about leaving them on the streets, etc. In fear of Bhoomi being affected by Gujral, Nandani killed him.

In Gujral's will, Nandani had share and was care-taker of Bhoomi's share as well 75% of it had gone to Nandani and Bhoomi. The rest of the 25% had gone to Shraddha, Eklavya's birth mother.

Now I'm guessing when Nandani went to jail, she transferred it all to Karan and Tulsi to take care of the money because Karan was Bhoomi's legal guardian.

Simple.

I do agree that there is no real life law in K serials or many others like them. I read the property flow mentioned by you, and thanks to update me. I now fail to understand that how Karan's entire property is with Tanya. It was written in the update that Karan went to Tanya and asked money, which she was planning to use for having a deal with Karan to be with her once and for all. At some point of time it was all with Bhumi, later i saw in an update it was Eklavya, now it is Tanya. Does this mean that in Virani group property is always keeps transferring?? HUF of the income tax law needs to be amended.

Mr.P.Chidhambaram (Present Indian Finance Minister), please see this serial and probably also contribute your views to add to these confusions.

Thanks desiflavour101 for updating me on the property flow. Nowadays i dont watch the serial I only read the updates. Thanks once again.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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[QUOTE=blueash]Karan is given too much importance n gautam n sahil were neglected[/QUOTE ] well...gautam and sahil have done things many times against the people that really love them...agreed karan was bad in the begining but he didn't know the truth baout mihir tulsi and all that stuff. Gautam and sahil are gullable and they went against their own parents more than once but mihir and tulsi always forgave them.......Karan gets more attention because she actually cares for them and mihir and tulsi can converse with him and they know that he is with them...Gomzi and sahil on the other hand listen to their stupid wives...why cant sahil go against tripri like he did when she said bad things to and about ganga.

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