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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lkb79

Jane Austen was a feminist. She was a feminist in a time when being one would have gotten her in serious trouble. She understood that it was important to spread positive ideas about gender equality by writing her female characters with as much depth and care, if not more, as her male characters.

Ekta is an opportunist. She understands what her audience wants and caters to that alone for profit, shying away from any duty or obligation to promote positive, progressive values.


The only commonality between both of their works is the fact that both stories depict two sisters. That's it.

Agreed. Ekta just changed the storyline for TRPs and to interest her audiences. In her shows, female character is tortured like a doormat till she realizes her own self-respect.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It's more disappointing to know they had a good story, solid characters in their hands which already had all the masala ingredients (can you imagine the trps for when purab would have betrayed bulbul for money or the reveal of abhi being engaged beforehand). They chose dumb it down so much that it insults the audiences intelligence.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahabhootni

It's more disappointing to know they had a good story, solid characters in their hands which already had all the masala ingredients (can you imagine the trps for when purab would have betrayed bulbul for money or the reveal of abhi being engaged beforehand). They chose dumb it down so much that it insults the audiences intelligence.



omg! love these suggestions. though i don't see how abhi as abhi would've gotten involved with pragya in that case. probably why they decided not to write abhi remotely as edward. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

well its just an adaption...there is no rule that it says adaption needs to be exactly the same as original...minor changes can happen here and there...and ekta during KKB launch interview did mention that she has made lots of changes from the orginal novel...

i don't mind if it doesn't matches the original...because it can never be...a novel doesn't need a twist and turn...its straight and neat with either happy ending or tragic ending...or sometimes leave it open for the next edition...but daily soaps doesn't work that way...they need twist and turn and most of the time complicate situation...Jane Austen works are master piece...Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility is a few of her great works...noone can do justice to it...each characters and the chemistry she creates b/w her couples are class apart...we have Darcy-Elizabeth and Edward-Elinor as examples...she is goddess when it comes to her story telling...i don't really relate KKB with Sense and Sensibility

KKB is old ekta shows in new bottle...all the tracks are recycled from her decades all shows and her current shows...

what disappoints in KKB is characters...its a disaster...though i would like to say ekta did shape up Purab in a good way unlike Willoughby...i am glad abt it...and BB being fiery...but completely destroy abhi-pragya as characters...

i agree too...many wanted Willoughby to be given a 2nd chance...i was one of them too...he really loved Marianne...his feelings were genuine for her


As i said to mina that i have no problems with adaptation twiks but what disappoints me is the characterization. KKB would have been acceptable iif ekta wanted to actually tell a different version of ththe novel but she is not interested in it. She only wants trp and used austen's name for the sole purpose of promoting a show that was not well thought of or well conceived. And ththis beong an austen fan hurts me.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Meena_

well, she already mentioned that she's gonna make some changes and not make a full-fledged copy of the novel. her other serial , YHM, is another example, supposedly based on a novel, later changes are made.

I know that...i had read custody before though i never completed it since i had to return the book but it is different from yhm.
Ishita was married there not just engaged and shagun and raman both had equal importance in the case. But yhm is positive adaptation for the wroters took the trouble of doing justice to the original plot and that was the fight for ruhi and its affect on her and adi.
Sense and sensibility was a story where austen showed that both sense and sensibility have equal importance in life.
Ekta changed it to a 'totorture pragya insult pragya dramatize bubulbul hurt ra bul' story. This was never an adaptation because it was never meant to be
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: berrysweet

In the first place , the show should never have been promoted as S and S . It's not!

S and S is a timeless classic . Its a sin to compare them! Poor Jane Austen . If she only knew that she would be used for promotion for a degrading show like this , she would never have picked up her pen!


I love you you know...this is exactly my point which you said so easily. Ekta hurt the feelings of jane austen fans when she used her name to promote this show...i in my next post was going to mentionmention how this resembles any other novel than sense and sensibility. Ekta has mocked Jane's writing with this one
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lkb79

Jane Austen was a feminist. She was a feminist in a time when being one would have gotten her in serious trouble. She understood that it was important to spread positive ideas about gender equality by writing her female characters with as much depth and care, if not more, as her male characters.

Ekta is an opportunist. She understands what her audience wants and caters to that alone for profit, shying away from any duty or obligation to promote positive, progressive values.


The only commonality between both of their works is the fact that both stories depict two sisters. That's it.


True...exactly jane was a feminist. Her point was to show how woman were not doormats...and this had got her book pride and prejudice banned for the sole rereason that it showed Elizabeth rejecting marriage proposal. To a woman with such progressive thoughts wouldnt such a show be an insult?
She is a writer who desrves tribute instead she is being used to garner trps.
In fact jane austen wrote stories knowing that it may not sell for having such progressive views but she still wrote them. Isn't using the work of such a writer as a base for trp gaining illogical storyline a sin?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -mina-



honestly, i'll have to disagree. perversions down the road wouldn't or oughtn't have stopped the artist from her work. also i think jane would just be amused and gratified that in this distance of time and from such a different place, her work is still being looked to for inspiration.



True she wouldn't have cared or be amused with it. But it is hard for me to believe ekekta was aactually inspired by the book. To me it looks like she just heard the story decided lets put my trtried and tested formulas in there and present it to audience for trp. So instead of tthe story i think it was its success tjat inspired her. If sshe was inspired by the story she would not hahave butchered the characters the way she did.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahabhootni

It's more disappointing to know they had a good story, solid characters in their hands which already had all the masala ingredients (can you imagine the trps for when purab would have betrayed bulbul for money or the reveal of abhi being engaged beforehand). They chose dumb it down so much that it insults the audiences intelligence.

You know this is what i have decisdecided to address in my next post why kkb fails to be an epic. There is so much wrong with this show even though it had everything to make it amazing. And it all starts with not using austens name here. Because then aaudience expect pragya to be strong which obobviously ekta cannot provide.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is the best post I've read in this forum so far! Loved the way you analysed each main characters in the book and in the show. I wouldn't have minded if the story was changed into something better. The show had promising characters despite the differences and inconsistencies between the original and adapted characters, which I was fine with. But now it has been nothing but disappointment. I don't know where they are even going with the storyline anymore ( and it's unpredictable in a horrible manner ATM)! Will be eagerly waiting to read your next post.

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