How to people like such regressive shows? DT Note Pg9 - Page 6

Originally posted by: RoopyJohal

Dare I say Pragya reminds me a lot of Ankita from Pavitra Rishta. How Ankita was mahan and left Naren life for his happiness and every single goddamn episode we'd have to see her cry with sad background music. Now this serial has Pragya crying to sad songs in every episode and being so weak for someone that hasn't been true to her and has only hurt her. They show the characters as modern and wearing westernized clothing, yet they act like uneducated irrational people with traditional thinking. Abhi calling himself a rockstar yet having traditional thoughts on how his wife should be.. yet his GIRLFRIEND can wear revealing dresses and model for the world, but when an mms of his wife comes out that looks completely innocent he'll jump to conclusions and make her life hell, what a sick and disgusting person. I absolutely hate Abhi in this serial he's less than smart.

Originally posted by: kitkataha

It's so sickening to watch Abhi manhandle Pragya daily and abuse her emotionally. On the other hand, it's even more sickening to watch a woman fall in love with someone who abuses her and mocks the sanctity of marriage.

Such regressive shit

Originally posted by: SaaraDON

I agree with the manhandling part...i don't like it either!

But KKB is A LOT better than the regressive and abusive crap that is and has been shown on other channels.

At least, we don't have Abhi physically beating up Pragya, raping her, torturing her in a brutal brutal way and driving her insane to the level that she ends up in a mental asylum???

Yes, he is always threatening her (of course, those death threats are never serious). If you've watched the show, he is a mouse in disguise of a lion...😆 He is shown to be the bad guy but he has a good side and a soft heart too. Which is what Pragya has fallen for (Yes, her falling for this was a little rushed...could have been scripted better).

The story was always about how destiny plays a role in bringing two people, who are poles apart and victimized by misunderstandings, together.

I am sure none of us is in favour of regressive behaviors. In the end, it's Abhi-Pragya's chemistry, Shabir Sriti's good acting skills and the idea of these two weird people falling in love that keeps us glued to the show. Doesn't mean we favour or support regressive shit!

Originally posted by: indi

Thank you saara ... I too don't like the manhandling part ... !!! Yes, I might be a sucker for romance stories and enjoy KKB, but that does not mean that am stupid or support abusive behavior!!! Would "Beauty and the Beast" fall in the category of "abuse"?

I'm fine with people not liking KKB, but as is the case in most, if not all, relationships, romantic and otherwise, no relationship is perfect. I find it hypocritical to brand the story "regressive shit" and to cast aspersions on people who enjoy it when there are so many worse influences and examples out there! To the armchair critics, pseudo intellects and morality police with their condescending attitude... sorry, but I am not ashamed of saying that I like this story!!! Everyone is presented with the same facts, but not everyone views these facts through the same lenses; opinion divides our view points.

Millions of women are abused every day - physically hurt, beaten, threatened, belittled, and even killed, and I find it an insult to trivialize their experience by comparing them to KKB!! How about doing something about actual abuse and leave KKB alone?

Those who don't like the story but take the time to criticize it says more about them than it does the story, and if they have looked at it and want to bash it, well it just wasn't the right story for you. So get over it and stop trying to spoil others' joy in it.

Abuse is abuse. There is physical abuse and then there is emotional and mental abuse. Just because she is not slapped and tortured does not make what we see acceptable or romantic. It's wrong and should not be romanticized.

Originally posted by: poiu123

I find it a common tendency in this forum and some others to label stories as typical "saas -bahu dramas" or "regressive" or chracters as "doormats" , " mahan" in a sarcastic kind of way. Shows are made as per the taste of Indian audience. It is the audience who decides which shows stay and which shows are taken off air as they contribute to TRPs. Whether the Indianaudience likes regressive stories or doormat characters is purely their choice. We are no one to question their tastes. Watching a "regressive" show does not make one regressive in real life nor does enjoying watching a doormat character make one a doormat in real life.
And yes there are educated women in real life who may stay in marriages which are abusive for the sake of family or children. I guess people are still not that modern in their way of thinking as members here. So calling it shit may be realityfor some.
I watch SNS and I watch KB. And on TV. And will continue watching it because I Like it. Very simple 😊
P.S. Millions of viewers outside this forum do not find it crap so I am not in minority.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

I am not sure what Channel Zindagi is but I am not saying that the stories have to be drab and boring. I watch this show because it is light entertainment and cos this like most of the other soaps are slapdash romances anyway. But still does not mean the show cannot have logically drawn characters that stay true to character or if the characters do swerve why development cannot be shown to trace that change. Sans that, some of us viewers try to fill in the gaps with our own reasons as to why a strong woman like Pragya suddenly turns docile or why a man who is supposedly kind towards his own family acts like a clueless heel when it comes to his wife.

Plus Pragya standing up for herself could still be made fun and entertaining while imparting a valuable message. The power of the script writers could if they were talented enough , and I don't doubt they are as they have managed to keep us enthralled this long, prevent the show from sliding into a channel zindagi kind of low TRP show. A show could potentially be good, entertaining and harness great TRPs all at the same time. Even tho I am not sure what Amir Khan's show garnered in terms of TRP and in spite of it belonging to a totally different genre, that show is a great example of a TV show that can be entertaining and enlightening whilst resounding with a powerful message.

Anyway, off to google what Channel Zindagi is :)

Originally posted by: veeleo

To those who are offended by any criticism (mild or harsh) of these shows, please understand that the majority of us dissenters are not saying anything negative about the wonderfully talented actors; our issue with the production houses and/or writers (CVs in general) is nothing personal. I think that the cinematography is top notch in many shows...we all know the crew works very hard etc...

I respect both Gul Khan and Ekta Kapoor - they have achieved a lot in their professional lives.

Thanks to those who take the time to write out episode summaries. Had it not been for you, people like me would not be able to participate in these discussions. :)

Some forum members have stated, 1) it's mindless fun... "relax, it's just a show" and 2) if you hate the show so much, just stop watching. No one is forcing you. And I have stopped watching.

You are right on both counts...but only up to a certain point.

On the first point that it's just mindless fun...well I agree with the mindless part. Brainless is probably a more apt word. The fun part...not so much - I don't see the "fun" in torturing, abusing, and debasing your emotionally distraught wife, who for reasons best known to herself, is madly in love with you for your supposed "goodness." I don't see the "fun" in telling your wife you want to drive her to suicide, especially in a country that has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. I could go on, but you get the gist of what I'm saying I'm sure.

On the second point... as a consumer with no input when it comes to the TRPs, India Forum gives us a great platform to share our voices. As a woman, it is my right to object to what is appalling and offensive. As a human being, it is my prerogative to say we can do better. I have written about this before - it is high time we stop romanticizing egregious behavior. We can't afford to do that anymore as a society. Torturing your wife is inexcusable. Abhi reminds me of a story I read in The Canterbury Tales about a man who tortures and tests his wife relentlessly. Abhi is Walter and Pragya is Griselda. Read it if you don't believe me. It's pretty sad to have to compare Abhi to a medieval jerk.

Why do we set the bar so low for Indian shows? The production houses and TV channels claim that this is what the audience wants. I don't think that's entirely accurate. What other choices do the production houses and television stations give to the audience besides this outlandish, outdated, objectionable drivel? It's mortifying and embarrassing.

There is clearly a demand for different content because the PTV dramas are hugely popular in India. The PTV dramas do not go on forever, and let's be honest - the quality of writing is outstanding.

As a writer, I can appreciate how difficult it is to write for daily shows that are forced to go on and on, long after the show should have ended (narratively speaking). It's enough to drive the best writer up the wall. The PTV shows, to my understanding, are shown once weekly as a 40-50 minute episode. And secondly, most of the shows end before reaching the 30 episode mark. Maybe that tried and tested formula should be used in India too, even if it's on a very small scale.

Anyway, just my opinion. Thanks for reading.

Originally posted by: RoopyJohal

Dare I say Pragya reminds me a lot of Ankita from Pavitra Rishta. How Ankita was mahan and left Naren life for his happiness and every single goddamn episode we'd have to see her cry with sad background music. Now this serial has Pragya crying to sad songs in every episode and being so weak for someone that hasn't been true to her and has only hurt her. They show the characters as modern and wearing westernized clothing, yet they act like uneducated irrational people with traditional thinking. Abhi calling himself a rockstar yet having traditional thoughts on how his wife should be.. yet his GIRLFRIEND can wear revealing dresses and model for the world, but when an mms of his wife comes out that looks completely innocent he'll jump to conclusions and make her life hell, what a sick and disgusting person. I absolutely hate Abhi in this serial he's less than smart.