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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -renu-

BYE DEAR FRIENDS.. 😆...HAVE A GALA TIME...


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Anytime..🤣 onlu u can SPICE it up dahling..😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: -renu-

BYE DEAR FRIENDS.. 😆...HAVE A GALA TIME...


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oye renu
tussi na jao yaar
we may argue but we remain friends🤗
why dont u make a spoof on us- the untrue fans ????
miss ur spoofs😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: shamil

bhalo, u r an anari yaar

on IF, true= blind
dubious= disloyal
criticism = basher😆


Luv u shamoo 🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
#44

oh wanted to add to the dictionary...

TOI article / Bhaskar article = RUMOR
Sir ji ka POST = GOSPEL TRUTH


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Posted: 13 years ago
#45
I am unable to take Sneha on face value. My two cents.

If health is the only reason, Sony and Production House are the real culprits. I am a 'numbers' person courtesy my professional background. MB mentioned in his Asian Age interview that his time commitment as per contract was 12 days a month but it got stretched to 18/20 days putting pressure on his health. Neither Sony nor Production House has come with a rejoinder on this. This is either a result of Sony's decision to increase episode length to 45 minutes or miscalcultion of time commitment at the resourcing stage by Production House. Sony gave Ekta Kapoor time to come up with Kya Hua. If I recollect right, 45 minute episodes were meant to be for a month initially but the arrangement went on till January end because Kya Hua was not ready. These 45 minutes episodes must have put pressure not only on MB's health but on the other members of the unit as well. Infact there were reports that units of DEK and KTLK are struggling to churn out 45 minute episodes. Sneha can not admit that Sony's decision and/or Production House's miscalculation played a role in aggravating his medical condition.

Creative difference vis-a-vis story and treatment could be / appears to be one of the reasons but again she can not admit this too. Sony and PH are already under criticism for deviating from DK. Like viewers, MB also might have been given the impression while signing the dotted line that the story and its treatment will by and large remain true to DK. Initially MB spoke a lot about Rahat Kazmi and DK on his FB page. The story did go DK way initially but then Sony and PH deviated from it in mindless pursuit of weekly high points and TRPs. After five months, they neither have TRPs nor the DK story. There is no option now but to increase the passion quotient of the story. If creative differences on the story and treatment have become irreconcilable now, she can not admit it in public because Sony and PH are more at fault.

Whichever way one looks at this mess, Sony and Production House come across more at fault. Sneha does not have any other option but to present this as MB's decision to save face and make the replacement acceptable to viewers. MB does not have any option either but to play along for his long term professional interests.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#46
@Mimoha... where do u see Sneha even hinting its HIS FAULT??? The decision to finally call it quits is HIS..thats what she is relaying..!

Also... in any job there will be exigencies.. NO ONE who gets HIRED in any employment field.. GET 100% of what is promised..!

SRK said in one of his interviews..that they.. HEAR ONE STORY... ACT IN ANOTHER and what comes out.. is a THIRD VERSION...! If one remains so unaccomodative.. may be.. WORKING in any field is not an option... 🤓

Btw.. Kya hua epis length have increased too...(and its an EKTA SHOW 😃)

Only thing i blame SET is.. that they have INTERVENED too late in the day..!! 😒
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Posted: 13 years ago
#47

This is just my POV... I don't understand the dynamics of the TV world, nor can I claim to know the way numbers, TRPS and contracts work..Just thinking out loud, that's all...

Mimsy... I agree to an extent.. whichever way you look, the story or the lack thereof appears to be the biggest culprit followed by the extension of epis leading to the stretching of shoot hours.

But if this was the only reason, couldn't they have arrived at a compromise that would ensure MB stays by acceding to some of his demands vis-a-vis the story? Bringing Nidhi back to KGH was his suggestion, it would have been logical, but for some reason the CVs and PH seemed averse to this.

Whatever creative differences they had could have been threshed out and tracks planned in such a manner that at least "logic" would be the major theme as opposed to the inanity they were showing. Although I haven't watched last week's epis, they are reported to have been gripping, filled with drama and emotion that was lacking in the show.

Ashu going missing and then returning could have added to this drama and possibly TRPs. And would have given MB his rest too. Now that the epis are back to airing for 30 mins, the burden on the leads could reduced. And they could have shown parallel tracks such as RanJi and Mallu-Sue..Mansukhani.. Also could have developed something with Armaan.

We all have been screaming ourselves hoarse that the story, the flip-flopping of the characterizations, the non-occupational status of Rohan and Nidhi, all these were annoying to say the least. If this was MBs only grouse then I'm sure the PH and he could have threshed this out, since they have seen that their ideas weren't working either from the dismal TRPs.

And about the grueling schedule, why couldn't they have worked out something that could enable him to work without straining his back too much? The Ashu being AWOL would have worked ..and there would be no need for MB to quit. Just take rest and be back when he's better.
I'm sure the PH realizes what an uphill task its gonna be to have someone of the calibre of MB replaced and for that someone to rake in TRPs by generating a loyal audience for himself.
It would have been in their best interests to retain him by acceding to his demands (if any) or by accommodating his comfort, rather than having a new guy (and that too a lead) walk in at this juncture.

And I feel pretty sure they must have explored all avenues, tried talking out mid-ways or compromises before arriving at an impasse and the impasse meant MB's exit...

Edited by LizzieBennett - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48

@Mimoha, The episode length was an temporary issue. Ok, Kya hua got delayed for some days and they had to work really hard for this and this took a toll on MB's health.
But these kind if professional hazards exist in every profession.
I am a software professional, and for the project delivery on time sometime we work extra hours.
One has to be flexible enough to do any job...
He himself admitted that his health problem was temporary. So if he would request PH for rest, they could have introduce some track like that...Earlier also this did happen.

And creative difference...Well I believe the first thing he made wrong is to criticise
his project publicly, he was part of a team, if he was not happy , he could have made it clear to the respective concerned people instead of venting in public...
Again there may be creative difference, but when the project is not doing well and SET is trying to improve the show, as a part of a team one should have helped them instead of quitting at such a crucial juncture...
" There is no option now but to increase the passion quotient of the story "------ So you also believe that MB had problems to work in passionate scenes ??? 😆 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

@Mimoha... where do u see Sneha even hinting its HIS FAULT??? The decision to finally call it quits is HIS..thats what she is relaying..!


Also... in any job there will be exigencies.. NO ONE who gets HIRED in any employment field.. GET 100% of what is promised..!

SRK said in one of his interviews..that they.. HEAR ONE STORY... ACT IN ANOTHER and what comes out.. is a THIRD VERSION...! If one remains so unaccomodative.. may be.. WORKING in any field is not an option... 🤓

Btw.. Kya hua epis length have increased too...(and its an EKTA SHOW 😃)

Only thing i blame SET is.. that they have INTERVENED too late in the day..!! 😒


No. no, I did not say Sneha is hinting it is his fault. I mean all the parties concerned have no option but to use his health as a cover to make this change palatable/acceptable to viewers.

Secondly, I agree that regardless of the industry/nature of project whenever estimation is done for resources, a contingency needs to be built up to accommodate sudden changes of the remit from client. That is project management. Normally contingency for changes in the remit from client or unforeseen circumstances is in the range of 15%-20% . Even after contingency, vendors/suppliers are accomodative to 5-10% extent but here time commitment went up by 50-65% (66.66% to be precise). That to me is indicative of complete change in remit by Sony for whatever reason. If the originally calculated 12 days include a 15% contingency then some one at Director's Kut should loose his job.

Regarding accommodation, I would say to each his own.

Absolutely agree SET intervened too late.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhalobasa

@Mimoha, The episode length was an temporary issue. Ok, Kya hua got delayed for some days and they had to work really hard for this and this took a toll on MB's health.
But these kind if professional hazards exist in every profession.
I am a software professional, and for the project delivery on time sometime we work extra hours.
One has to be flexible enough to do any job...
He himself admitted that his health problem was temporary. So if he would request PH for rest, they could have introduce some track like that...Earlier also this did happen.

And creative difference...Well I believe the first thing he made wrong is to criticise
his project publicly, he was part of a team, if he was not happy , he could have made it clear to the respective concerned people instead of venting in public...
Again there may be creative difference, but when the project is not doing well and SET is trying to improve the show, as a part of a team one should have helped them instead of quitting at such a crucial juncture...
" There is no option now but to increase the passion quotient of the story "------ So you also believe that MB had problems do work in passionate scenes ??? 😆 😆


I am under no illusion that health is the no only reason. If it was, things could have been worked around it. We all accomodate our colleagues in such situations. Completely agree that he should not have criticised his project in public domain. That is unethical. About passionate scenes, perhaps he does have reservations for reasons best known to him. Now, whether this was discussed at resourcing stage or not is a matter of conjecture. If it was not, then fault lies at both ends. I hope it is not the case of assumptions being the crux of all the problems.

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